hobby caravans again
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If you have an e-mail address I can send you all the information requested. My wife and I purchased our new Hobby van in Germany - February 2001 - and have travelled via Switzerland to Spain each winter - including having to tow on snow, using wheel chains on a Peugeot 406. I send the same information to Caravan Club members and the response has been quite positive. Peter
Good luck with your next insurance company and happy touring. Regards Pearl
Thanks again
I am buying a 540ufe and will be towing with a Mercedes ML 4x4. Pat.
Got your message, forgot to ask who is the suppliers of the hitch lock called Robostop, are they easy to get hold of from a caravan distributor. I decided to contact Hobbyland-Hexel, left a message for Peter Hexel to ask him if I needed the extras for my Hobby 460UFe known as Autark-Paket and while I was enquiring I thought I may as well see If I could get him to install a gas bolier and thermostat. I was going to order the spare wheel, "but" my husband interviened and said as it would only go on the caravan in an emmergency he would rather get one from Towsure, next question?, What size wheels does this model have, my husband thinks it may be a 15inch. Well I better stop asking questions before I bore you silly. "Thanks for all the info, you have been great". Regards Pearl.
I have just completed my purchase of a Hobby 2004 460 UFe Excellent. Purchased with Hobby-Hexel, [Log in to view email] I had a great price deal, Caravan EUR 11600.00 approx £7,750.00p and paid for extras which were 10Ltr gas-boiler EUR 670.00 £446.00p and Autark-Paket EUR 830.00 £553.00p plus a 50Ltr water tank EUR 065.00 £43.00p What a Package for equal to approx £8,800.00p "WOW", Thanks Peter.
Have you tryed Franz Joeressen or Peter Hexel. [Log in to view email] and you will find Frenz on this discussion forum. Hope this is of some use Regards Pearl.
Prices in Euroes. Excellent, Have you tryed Peter [Log in to view email] and also Franz Joeressen I dont know if you are aware there is a hobby-owners-club.co.com good source of information. Hope this is of use to you. Regards Pearl.
Took your advice and ordered the Robostop towhitch as you recomended and also pursuaded my husband to forget the cheapi towsure wheel and go for a proper hobby one, so both items are on order with the caravan. The only thing missing is the british electrics, probably have them done at Amberbridge Hobby Centre. Just a case now of getting a awning, hopeing to get a German one with a tall annaxe that can fit both side (Left/Right of awning) dont seam to be mutch about at a reasonable price. "If any members know different post me or use my e:mail given on site". Sighning off now. Regards Pearl.
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We are about to contact a few German dealers about purchasing a Hobby 540ufe but I am not very sure from the brochure that I have what an Autark paket is and the gas boiler you had installed, does it run on electricity as well? If you can find the time to give me a reply I would be most grateful. Happy Hobbyvanning, Eddie.
The 'Autark-Paket' consists of: 75/110-Ah-Gel-Elektrolyt-Batterie Leisure battery - good quality! Batteriebox Batterybox - fitted under the bed and adjacent to Automatiisches Ladegerat the automatic battery and lighting unit. A very substantial piece of 12-V-Anschluß fur alle 'Verbraucher' equipment that provides all 12 volt illumination and other services. 45 - l Frischwassertank 45 litre fresh water tank FIXED under the near side seat next to Hochleistungswasserpumpe kitchen unit. The Heavy-duty water pump providing hot and cold Control-Panel water to all services. Control panel for power and water units. Our spare wheel cost about £70 If you go to http://www.camping-voepel.de you can fill in a form and obtain a full catalogue of accessories. It includes all the details about the hitch and also the RoboStop security clamp/hitch-lock. They send me the catalogue. Regards to you Pearl.
Forgot to say you have a 3 way fridge and a electric boiler only, I had installed a gas boiler which is independent of the electric one (so I have to boilers), the hobby has no battery as the electric goes through a converter for the 12v lighting so this is why I had a battery and a charging unit and a control panel(we brit's normally refer to as a zig)installed in the package given above, also an optional extra is an onboard large freshwater tank. Sorry about the message above getting a bit mismash 'but' I am unable to get back in and straighten it up, hope you are able to work out what exactlly the package contains. i.e. everything you would have in a british top of the range caravan. P.S. Have you got a price list go to http://www.hobby-caravan.de if no joy getting it, contact me again, and I will put prices on here for you. Regards Pearl.
The hobby comes with electrics 230w all you have to do is change faceing of 2pin plug for a british 3pin plug. The water heater is electric, if you want a gas boiler they will install it for you at an extra charge then you will have two boilers gas and electric. Come back to me and let me know what model you have in mind and I can tell you what the book price is for models 2004, 'however remember you dont want to pay book price' you ask for BEST PRICE, if charged book price start asking for freebies to go with it, after all you wouldn't pay asking price for a car/caravan here in britain you always bargain to get something knocked off or some extras. It is easy to do as you are not having to do it face to face. Try it you will be suprised what you can get. Regards Pearl.
http://www.hobby-caravans.de/en/modelle/wohnwagen/ Good Luck
Do take care with your proposal as there has been several pieces of incorrect information given on this particular forum 'Hobby caravans again'. If you do your homework correctly, you will obtain a German catalogue and German price list BEFORE thinking about anything else.In the back of the price list are the 'Zubenhor' list - i.e. extras. This gives the information on chassis upgrading for increased payload, wheel and tyre sizes, spares wheels, the Autark-Paket - i.e. what the German's call a'Self sufficiency package'. You can negotiate 'House' prices (i.e. discounts usually 7.5-12.5% on a NEW direct from factory price)for Hobby caravans through any respectable German supplier. Avoid 'special editions produced specifically for one particular supplier - they are usually cut down on spec versions and do not sell so readily on the used market. Avoid using any cable adaptor for the electrics - the cable extenders have been known to drop onto the road, rub through and cause electrical failure of both car and caravan whilst on the move. Have the job done correctly - any competent trailer towbar/electrics installer can do the job quite inexpensively. You will find it is only after you have purchased your caravan from Germany and ACTUALLY collected it, that you will be aware of all that is involved. My wife and I did this three years ago - over the internet and without being able to speak German. Our only mistake was in the ferry booking. A return ticket - with caravan booked both ways is cheaper than two singles! We know of other purchasers who have bought the 'Return' ticket - they just explained at the docks that they were collecting their van from Germany ....! Good luck Peter
I sent off emails today to Joeressens and Hobby-Hexel inquiring about the availability of an Excellent 540 ufe, asking if they had any 2004 stock left or when the new 2005 models arrive. I'll leave a note in the forum here to let you know how things go. I retired 5 years ago (at 55) but my wife continued to work until the beginning of November last year, 2 weeks later we had packed up the van and were on our way down to Spain for the winter. We had planned to do this after we both stopped work, so this was it. Our first long term stop was at Vinaros where we stayed till after newyear, then we moved to Altea where we intended to stay for a few weeks but then we had a call from our daughter saying that she wanted to come out for a visit in February, so as we were only about 35 miles from Alicante airport we decided to stay in Altea, which is a lovely little place, and continued to stay there till our return home in mid April. We had a good chance to look at all the German vans on the site and I think Hobby must be the best value for money caravan available today. When we returned home we put our van up for sale and it sold last week so we are hoping we can hear about stock availability soon. As I said before I'll let you know how things progress. Thanks again, Eddie.
A follow up to my earlier message to you. You could also try [Log in to view email] for your Hobby. Their web address is http://www.camping-voepel.de They are located at 65462 Gustavsburg. Very easy access from the autobahns. Peter
We do have the German brochure and 'Preiliste' which we picked up from Ernst Caravans in Ettenhiem on our way home this year, the price for a 2004 Excellent 540 ufe is stated at Euro 14100 ex works including 16% Mwst whatever that is, vat possibly. So at approximately £9700 you are getting a lot of caravan for not a lot of money. Yes I suppose there will be some other expenses to add to that figure if you want to add extras plus travelling costs, but you must be saving money if you were buying an equivalent british van. As yet I have had no return mail from the dealers I have contacted, but when I do I will post here for any interested parties. Cheers, Eddie.
Keep in contact with Peter I found him to be the most uptodate person on this forum for information. I am new also the the Hobby buying from Germany and Peter made things a lot easier for me with all his inf and within two weeks I had purchased a 460ufe go soon to pick-up caravan just awaiting final date from Hobby-Hexel. Peter is correct about using a return ticket for car/passengers/caravan. I have found a company which is doing returns from Dover to Calias from now to end July £254.00 at http://www.ferrysmart.co.uk look them up. Signing off now.
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