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ROVER OVERHEATING
11 February 2005, 2:20 PM
Tambo
Joined 26 Jan 2005
31 posts

had head gasket fitted, there is all scilocone around the engine mount, its purring like a pussy cat now but alas the breaks are now squeaking like buggery! anyone know how to fix this i would really appreciate advice as the car is still under warranty.

the coolant bottle remains topped up now, still a bit of sludge in it, but the coolant solution is still blue, i am having to pop it back to the garage next week - 2 weeks after the head gasket has been done - TERRIER - do you usually advise this, we were told to take it back so the garage can flush the system out again save the gasket going again! i think and hope its just routine after gasket being done, she does run like a dream again but now breaks squeaking like i ran over a pussy cat! any advice greatly appreciated, can i not just put some WD40 on the break disks!!!!

ROVER OVERHEATING
11 February 2005, 2:23 PM
Tambo
Joined 26 Jan 2005
31 posts

try your heater matrix and/or thermostat, whats the heater like when you turn on car! it sounds like there is nothing to cool down the car, radiator/heater matrix, not an expert but worth a try! i find some of the big name garages, rover included (and its their model!) are nec the best people to go to!!

ROVER OVERHEATING
11 February 2005, 2:57 PM
TERRIERS AUTOS
Joined 8 Feb 2005
2427 posts

I only ask customers to come back if any sludge returns in the header tank. I usually wait until I next service the car and then wash out the header tank.

ROVER OVERHEATING
11 February 2005, 3:01 PM
TERRIERS AUTOS
Joined 8 Feb 2005
2427 posts

Hi,
Regarding the brake squeal. All you need to do is remove all the linings, clean the brake dust from the calipers etc and apply copper grease to the BACKS of the pads .

ROVER OVERHEATING
11 February 2005, 3:02 PM
Tambo
Joined 26 Jan 2005
31 posts

Terrier, thanks for replying i guess everyone works differently, the garage have asked me to go back as the car is under warranty and want to make sure its flushed again to be on the safe side,

thanks for your advice.

do you know anything about squeeky breaks on Rovers!! if i break fast it doesnt make the noise, if i break slowly, slowly depressing the break it gives out a right squeeakkkkK!!!!


ROVER OVERHEATING
12 February 2005, 12:55 PM
marki
Joined 7 Feb 2005
15 posts

As a reply to TERRIERS, I will stand for the being hard bit on garages, but they are under pressure to make a profit, so they have to do a balancing act.
As for amalgam or goo that must be clean out as the water under pressure boils at 120 deg ish, but if the amalgam is left in. that gets up to 200 deg so where its stuck all over the engine,it leaves you with hot spots all over the engine specially on the lines or top water jacket in the head, that means the cooling system is not working as it was designed.
The flushing fluid is not the main way to remove it, thats down to the fitter, its a last finishing touch as back up.
You have just got to work clean and do the best job you can, each one is diffent.

ROVER OVERHEATING
14 February 2005, 4:04 PM
pete
Joined 14 Feb 2005
11 posts

i had the same problems with my car but did not catch it in time and it blew the head gasket on my rover 216 coupe just had a new head gasket fitted and now after ten miles or less when warm my engine check light comes on but gose out when you turn the engine of then comes back on a few minutes later dose anyone have any ideas y i would be greatful for any help

ROVER OVERHEATING
14 February 2005, 5:33 PM
TERRIERS AUTOS
Joined 8 Feb 2005
2427 posts

Hi, have you had the fault codes read, it is probably just a temperature sensor, but this can cause economy and performance issues, best take it to someone with a code reader.

ROVER OVERHEATING
14 February 2005, 5:48 PM
pete
Joined 14 Feb 2005
11 posts

no not yet had it read was hoping someone would have a code book an be able to tell me

ROVER OVERHEATING
15 February 2005, 8:37 AM
TERRIERS AUTOS
Joined 8 Feb 2005
2427 posts

I CAN TELL YOU WHAT THE CODES MEAN ONCE YOU HAVE READ THE ECU.

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ROVER OVERHEATING
22 February 2005, 4:35 PM
Nauman
Joined 22 Feb 2005
1 posts

Hi Patrick

I have a Rover 400 1.4 , i have experienced endless problems , my
major problem is the car not heating up. The temperature has started rising dramatically recently, all the pipes in the engine getting explodingly hot but no hot air coming into the car.
I have flushed the pipes and they are fine even bought a new thermostat but not fitted on mechanics advise as he says all the pipes get hot so no need for thermostat.
Have been advised that could well be heating matrix issue not so sure though , been looking for the inlet manifold but cannot find it anywhere where exactly would it be located.

Would very much appreciate some feedback ,
Thanks

ROVER OVERHEATING
23 February 2005, 8:03 AM
TERRIERS AUTOS
Joined 8 Feb 2005
2427 posts

Have you checked the cooling fan cuts in ?
The heater problem could be an air lock due to the excessive heat.
Check ALL the hoses are the same sort of temperature.

ROVER OVERHEATING
24 February 2005, 1:34 PM
Celadon
Joined 29 Apr 2004
56 posts

I agree with Terriers, it could very well be an air lock,
Unless you fill the colling system correctly, it is Very easy to get
an air lock in it.

Make sure that when you fill the system, that the engine is NOT running, and the heater is set to HOT.If the system is filled with the heater set to cold, an air lock develops straight away as the heater control is a valve that controls the flow of hot water

ROVER OVERHEATING
24 February 2005, 2:31 PM
slyadams
Joined 24 Feb 2005
3 posts

There are guys here who appear to be Rover guru's, so hopefully one of you can help me too!

Back in October, I noticed my Rover was running very rough, struggling to gain speed and stalling if I applied too much gas in low gears (I stalled more than once pulling into traffic, eesh!). It was really bad when cold, but still misfired (that's not really the right word for it I don't think, but hard to describe, the car sort of momentarily loses power and jerks) when doing 80mph after 100 miles of driving. The temperature sensor also climbed very high one time, apart from that it was fine. Took it to a garage who said the problem was the head gasket and moisture was getting into the engine overnight and causing misfires. They quoted me £700. I went it and told them I didnt think it was the HG because of the fact it does it after many miles when any moisture will have been driven off. Took it to another garage and they said it was rusty electrical connectors causing misfires. They cleaned them up and the car was solid again.

Now, in the last couple of days, the problem is back, and probably worse than before. The first thing I noticed was the temperature gauge rose to almost red while I was sitting in the BK drive-thru. When I pulled away the temperature fell back to normal within 30 seconds. I'll go and check the oil, coolant and plugs for any problems. Hopefully the problem is electrical again rather than mechanical.

Any ideas?

ROVER OVERHEATING
24 February 2005, 2:57 PM
slyadams
Joined 24 Feb 2005
3 posts

Update: won't even start now. Engine turns over, but doesn't start. Does this mean lack of compression and HG failure?


ROVER OVERHEATING
24 February 2005, 2:58 PM
TERRIERS AUTOS
Joined 8 Feb 2005
2427 posts

Check the fan switch, if it happened while you were stationary this is the probable cause.

ROVER OVERHEATING
24 February 2005, 3:14 PM
TERRIERS AUTOS
Joined 8 Feb 2005
2427 posts

Sorry missed you update,
Just because it won't start doesn't mean the head gasket has gone, although it could have.
Does it sound "normal" when it is turning over ?
Have you got any means of doing a compression test ?
Check for a spark plus the obvious, plugs, cap, rotor and fuel.

ROVER OVERHEATING
24 February 2005, 3:51 PM
Tambo
Joined 26 Jan 2005
31 posts

This points to head gasket. it is similar to what happened to my car thankfully i have installed a new radiator, thermostat and had the headgasket replaced and sealed properly. I didnt have to pay as it was under warranty but it has sorted the car out. she runs like a dream. The coupe models are prone to head gasket problems. We have been to 4 - 6 technicians about these cars and they are prone to it. you can argue forever what the cause is but it will be head gasket.


ROVER OVERHEATING
24 February 2005, 3:58 PM
slyadams
Joined 24 Feb 2005
3 posts

It sounds fine. I checked the oil, no white or gunk in it, so hopefully no water seepage. I checked the coolant, and the level was a little low, so I topped it up.

I will check the plugs. Fuel is fine. Not a car expert, computer man myself, so Im fumbling a bit in the dark, and am starting my own business at the moment, so money is very low and a car is a necessity really. What is there to look for in the cap and rotor?

Do Halfords sell compression testers? I know in the US you can pick one up from Sears for $20. Otherwise I could get one of these mobile guys to come around and do the test.

ROVER OVERHEATING
24 February 2005, 4:47 PM
TERRIERS AUTOS
Joined 8 Feb 2005
2427 posts

The distributor cap and rotor are at the end of the head, driven by the inlet cam.
You should be able to pick a compression tester up quite cheap, I would go to a motor factors or car accessory shop, Halfords are a bit dear.
Dont buy a push in compression tester, unless you have very long arms.

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