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ROVER OVERHEATING
5 March 2005, 11:06 AM
trueblue6877
Joined 5 Mar 2005
1 posts

hi my rover 214 has started drinking the water like a fish also when i go to pull away stalls all the time , my exhaust fell away at the cat and was just patched up , took the car to garage and told the exhaust is causing the probs took to anothr garage and told its the head gasket can any1 shed any light on this please

ROVER OVERHEATING
6 March 2005, 6:57 PM
del boy
Joined 31 Jan 2005
6 posts

thanks for the info....sorry havent replied sooner....been away on hols for a while...will try your suggestion.....thaks again

ROVER OVERHEATING
18 March 2005, 8:42 PM
jigr69
Joined 18 Mar 2005
5 posts

Just found the thread on Rover K series engine overheating, as I'm about to replace a thermostat on a 214SLi.

My symptons are as follows: Temperature gauge registers the car heating up quickly, hot air comes from the heater matrix, top radiator hose gets very hot but the bottom radiator hose going to the thermostat stays quite cold.

Am I correct in my assumption that the thermostat is kapput?

ROVER OVERHEATING
19 March 2005, 7:34 AM
TERRIERS AUTOS
Joined 8 Feb 2005
2438 posts

Hi. It does sound this way.
Before you fit the new thermostat, drill an 1/8 - 1/4 hole about 1/4 inch from the outer edge. then fit it with the hole uppermost, this will help prevent getting air locks when you refill the cooling system.
When you refill the cooling system, make sure that there is water returning to the expansion bottle through the small pipe at the top.

ROVER OVERHEATING
30 March 2005, 6:12 PM
smurph
Joined 30 Mar 2005
1 posts

Hi,

From a mechanical luddite -----

We've had a '96 rover 100 kensington SE for about 18 months - upto now it's been the perfect car. But on a recent long motorway trip it started showing some overheating problems....

Basically at sustained speeds of 70mph or above the temperature gauge would creep up from it's usual position 1/3 of the way up the dial to about 2/3 up, dropping to about 60mph for 10mins or so would bring back to about 1/2 way.

It hasn't done this before on motorway trips and doesn't show any problems in regular driving conditions.

1) How worried should I be?
2) Possible causes?
3) Costs to get it checked out and fixed?

Thanks in advance for any help.....


ROVER OVERHEATING
30 March 2005, 7:32 PM
concerto
Joined 29 Mar 2005
3 posts

Flush the Radiator.
Replace Thermostat.

parts cost £10. simple DIY job.

ROVER OVERHEATING
1 April 2005, 7:36 PM
milsd
Joined 1 Apr 2005
1 posts

hiya,

been reading the thread been helpful thanks...I got a rover 100 in which the head gasket had been replaced 2 weeks earlier had been bled a couple of times but still overheated. also has same problem of cold air from heater...kept over heating took to garage and they said needed another head gasket (they did carbon monoxide test) took away and check all the hose pipes and outlet to radiator was cold but rest boiling messed around a bit trying to unblock airlocks but kept overheating still...suddenly fan kicked in which seemed to work no seems fine (fingers crossed) am I doing a lot of damage still driving it or may this have dislodge the offending valves fixing the problem ...p.s is it worth replacing the pin valves?

thanx in advance for any help

ROVER OVERHEATING
11 April 2005, 9:15 PM
to the moon
Joined 11 Apr 2005
5 posts

oh you star i cant belive its as simple as a ball bearing .i have been getting stress from my wife .saying god its a little crappy car scrap it scrap it .. i think you have just saved my little metro gti from going to the great scrap heap in the sky god bless you.
mertro gti ..not reliable not cool .but sticks to the road like a gokart (i love them ) HAPPY HAPPY JOY JOY HAPPY HAPPY JOY
cheers mate

ROVER OVERHEATING
12 April 2005, 8:38 AM
rover 218vvc
Joined 10 Feb 2005
5 posts

Glad i'm not the only 1 who loved there metro GTI, it was fantastic, sadly had to get rid of it due to very high millage and needed something with a bigger engine and smoother ride to cope with my very high daily millage. Still my 218 VVC Coupe was a good replacement, but somtimes miss the gokart feel of the Metro.

ROVER OVERHEATING
12 April 2005, 10:00 AM
dudsy
Joined 12 Apr 2005
7 posts

im in need of a hand..... aswell :'(.... I have an over heating problem i was driving to the pub last night and after about 10 miles i noticed my temp gauge go up got abit worried pulled into a layby and lifted my bonnet! spoke to my mate who thinks its the thermostat sticking??? i then had to go a dreading 10 mile drive home and when i got home it was still over heating. then when i got home i saw steam coming from under my bonnet EEEK!!! scary considering i just bought the flippin car! and it was my first time driving it! its a rover 416 98 r reg 57k on clock. when my mum drove it home from buying it 40 miles. the temp gauge seemed fine..... so unless something wrong happend in them 20 miles what u recomend i do??? plz help Desperate afta not having a car for 2 months

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ROVER OVERHEATING
12 April 2005, 10:03 AM
TERRIERS AUTOS
Joined 8 Feb 2005
2438 posts

Hi. Check the coolant level now it has cooled down, top it up and check for any leaks.

ROVER OVERHEATING
12 April 2005, 4:05 PM
to the moon
Joined 11 Apr 2005
5 posts

hi i have a problem i found the ball bearing but im having trouble getting it out ...i cant bend the housing to get it HELP HELP ME OH YODA OF THE ROVER WORLD . i would be greatful for your assistance in this time of need... my wife still wants me to scrap it ....im scared????

ROVER OVERHEATING
12 April 2005, 5:01 PM
to the moon
Joined 11 Apr 2005
5 posts

hello could you have the same probs as me then over heating
no hot air in the car..fan not kicking in even when changing sensors new fan 2nd hand radiator new radiator switch . blah blah blah (its a pain in the arse) ..1 idea is to bypass the radiator switch and just have the fan running at all times (as a temp problem solver ) but not good in the long term but it kept my car on the road .. but im trying what patrick said at the start of this disscussion. let us know how you get on if you try this way please

ROVER OVERHEATING
13 April 2005, 7:15 AM
TERRIERS AUTOS
Joined 8 Feb 2005
2438 posts

Hi. Just punch the ball out of the manifold.
Regarding bypassing the fan switch, ok for an emergency repair, but causes the engine to run too cold.

ROVER OVERHEATING
13 April 2005, 3:58 PM
to the moon
Joined 11 Apr 2005
5 posts

hey thanx for that mate i will do it when it stops raining. cant belive i dnt think of that durrrrrrrr cheers mate .. whaen your flushing you system out how long should i do it ??? the water is realy rusty . due to old radiator falling to bits i have got new one ...2nd hand ... but it needs doing should i do it untill it runs clear ?? thanx


ROVER OVERHEATING
13 April 2005, 4:25 PM
TERRIERS AUTOS
Joined 8 Feb 2005
2438 posts

Hi. Do it without the thermostat if possible and run it for about 20 minutes or so,check what it says on the packaging though, replace the thermostat when finished, drill an 1/8" hole close to outer edge of thermostat and fit it with hole uppermost to help prevent air locks

ROVER OVERHEATING
13 April 2005, 6:08 PM
to the moon
Joined 11 Apr 2005
5 posts

thanx mate i will give that a go cheers ........how much will a new thermostat cost ?? have you any idea ...
i feel sorry for all the people that have bought new rovers ..
from what i hear on the news .....bye

ROVER OVERHEATING
13 April 2005, 6:11 PM
TERRIERS AUTOS
Joined 8 Feb 2005
2438 posts

Hi. Should be under a tenner, keep an eye on the temperature all the time !!

ROVER OVERHEATING
14 April 2005, 7:12 AM
Ian
Joined 14 Apr 2005
2 posts

Would just like to say a big thanks to Patrick for the info on removing the ball bearing from the inlet manifold. My 214 SEi was suffering similar overheating problems. Took it to the garage who cleared some gunk from the heater matrix but weren't sure if that was the problem and said if it still overheats it is probably the headgasket. Drove home from garage OK. Took it out later same day and you guessed it, temp gauge through the roof. Last night took ball bearing out and took it for a long drive and have just done 30 miles to work this morning and its running like a dream.
Cheers

ROVER OVERHEATING
18 April 2005, 0:22 AM
Lister
Joined 18 Apr 2005
3 posts

Hi -
Just bought a Rover 600 (P Reg) a month ago. All seemed fine, till one day I was driving back from Skipton and steam was comming out of hood! Looked at guage and noticed that was in the red.

Did all I could to minimise damage (free-wheeled - turned heater on etc..) but still ended up having to have cylinder head gasket replaced.

Thought problem was over (garage could not see any obvious problems) but car still overheating (and drinking water like a fish!)

No leaks (that I am aware of) and heater is blowing hot air (although heater only works on full setting - Im guessing switch has gone.)

Dont think the heater matrix is at fault (because - as I understand it - water would be comming in to the car from the heater matrix.)

Garage is stumped, and so I am desperate to find cause. The radiator fan was working intermitantly - but this has since been remedied (by by-passing thermostat for the time being) but problem still persists!

Now, Im no mechanic so Im not sure what type of engine 600 series of this reg uses (K Series ?) but I am desperate for a cure. Is it likely to be this ball-bearing thing that seems to plague the 200 series ? Would be eternally grateful for any kind sole that can help out here. I am taking car back to garage later this week - so would be nice if I could perhaps suggest something to them (as they seem at a loss.)

Many thanks..

P.S water seems to be boiling in reseviour, top hose from radiator is hot and return hose seems hot also (but not as hot as top hose - so may be due to conduction ?)

Paul.

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