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ROVER OVERHEATING
6 October 2007, 6:28 PM
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Redrover
Joined 6 Oct 2007
3 posts
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Hi
Just got my wife a s plate 216
Goes ok nice and clean on start up.
Temperature gauge never goes over half way
trouble is if you stand in traffic for a while you can hear bubbling.
I opened the bonnet to find no water in the expansion tank
topped it up and allowed it to idle on the drive way
After a while the water level started to fill the bottle until it came out of the cap
I felt the pipes and there was no pressure in the system
I took the cap off and blew down the hole in the centre and was met with no resistance. Can anyone tell me if this should be a pressure cap?
or have I another problem?
Thanks in advance
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ROVER OVERHEATING
6 October 2007, 8:32 PM
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BrianM
Joined 11 Nov 2006
540 posts
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This is uaually because the fan is not cutting in. You don't say if the fan is working when it is overheating. Make sure you blead the system before refitting the filler cap.
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ROVER OVERHEATING
7 October 2007, 10:06 AM
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TERRIERS AUTOS
Joined 8 Feb 2005
2438 posts
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Hi. Yes this is a pressurised cooling system. Check the thin pipe from the expansion tank to the engine has coolant returning to the expansion tank. Read through previous posts for other fixes.
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ROVER OVERHEATING
7 October 2007, 11:10 AM
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Redrover
Joined 6 Oct 2007
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Should the water return down the small pipe at all times or just when its hot?
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ROVER OVERHEATING
7 October 2007, 11:13 AM
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TERRIERS AUTOS
Joined 8 Feb 2005
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Hi. It should travel from the engine to the expansion tank continually.
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ROVER OVERHEATING
7 October 2007, 12:37 PM
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Redrover
Joined 6 Oct 2007
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Hmmmmm no flow down it but when I take the pipe off the inlet manifold and squeeze the rad pipes I get plenty of flow through it.Tried punching the ball bearing out which I thing I have done. Still the car doesn't overheat according to the gauge, a plastic bag now seals the rad cap until I can get another pressure cap. I think I will have to see how it goes when I get a proper cap
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ROVER OVERHEATING
8 October 2007, 3:51 AM
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noddy
Joined 8 Oct 2007
2 posts
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i was reading your stuff about leaks on the behind the front wheel
i have a rover 414 and is leaking water from the front wheel
what do you think it is the water goes out on to the floor
i cant drive it now really cause the water is coming out fast behind
the front wheel any advice thanks
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ROVER OVERHEATING
8 October 2007, 4:53 AM
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noddy
Joined 8 Oct 2007
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hi the fan switch is on the side of the radiator and its just under the bonnet
good luck
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ROVER OVERHEATING
8 October 2007, 8:50 AM
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BrianM
Joined 11 Nov 2006
540 posts
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Noddy, water leaking from the o/s of the engine (front) is going to be the water pump. Dont drive the car as you risk blowing the head gasket due to over heating. You need to remove the plastic cover around the cam belt & you should be able to see the leak. Replace the cam belt & check that the tensioner bearing is not noisy also.
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ROVER OVERHEATING
7 November 2007, 0:23 AM
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vs
Joined 7 Nov 2007
3 posts
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Hi I have a Rover 416 (manual) that I bought some 4-5 months back. Its been running quite fine till now.
But few days back I realized that the heater was not blowing hot air. And just 2-3 days back, the radiator fan kept running for 2-3 minutes even after the engine has been shut down. And today I was noticing the temperature gauge - and it shot up within 5-7 minutes of driving. Though it did not reach the red mark, but it was 80%+ up the curve.
I have read through some posts in the discussion, and I see Rover gurus talking about that ball bearing. Now does the 416 have that ball bearing - is it worth trying out?
Plz suggest what to do - I am a total newbie in machinery :(
VS
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ROVER OVERHEATING
7 November 2007, 8:35 AM
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TERRIERS AUTOS
Joined 8 Feb 2005
2438 posts
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Hi. Your car should have the bearing, first things first, check the coolant level is ok and whether the coolant is returning to the expansion tank. Then check for equal temperature between the top and bottom hoses after the engine has warmed up correctly.
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ROVER OVERHEATING
7 November 2007, 8:39 AM
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BrianM
Joined 11 Nov 2006
540 posts
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Have you topped up the coolant. No heater is a sure sign of low coolant level. This points to a leak. Favorite is the radiator or water pump. But check hoses also. Find the leak & get this fixed fast. Rovers don't like to overheat as they are prone to head gasket failyer.
If you have a flow through to the expansion bottle through the thin hose then the ball bearing is ok. Top up the coolant & leave your filler cap off. Drive it around the block & then top up again if needed. This will help get any air out of the system & avoid an air lock.
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ROVER OVERHEATING
11 November 2007, 7:17 PM
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K series fan
Joined 16 Oct 2007
49 posts
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Avoid overheating by using a good friction reducer like molyslip in new engine oil when changing it along with oil filter and the tin pellet fuel catalyst in the fuel tank which chemically LOWERS the burn temp of unleaded in the head by up to 150 deg C. Total cost around £100 to prevent head gasket failure and at the same time increase power by 20%! Prevention is so much cheaper than cure. For more info you can contact me on 07874 038 442 and change unwanted, damaging waste heat into real usable power!
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ROVER OVERHEATING
12 November 2007, 8:35 AM
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TERRIERS AUTOS
Joined 8 Feb 2005
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"increase power by 20%!" Pretty drastic claims !! Have you got any documentation to prove this ?? Sounds like a sales pitch to me,
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ROVER OVERHEATING
13 November 2007, 7:05 PM
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stainless
Joined 4 Oct 2007
63 posts
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>>Have you got any documentation to prove this
if poster has id like to see this
>>Sounds like a sales pitch to me
does to me as well
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ROVER OVERHEATING
19 November 2007, 9:35 PM
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K series fan
Joined 16 Oct 2007
49 posts
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Hi Terriers Autos, I have just received Dyno info. re Peugot 106 GTi 1.6 having a std. (well looked after) engine other than induction kit and free flow exhaust, before fitting the tin pellets 117 bhp and one month after fittment in the tank, for a total cost of £80, it's now 140 bhp! The cost of the induction and exhaust kits bt comparison was over £300 and gave an increase of just 9 bhp. No contest? Power increase however is not the main advantage.The real difference is the PREVENTION of damage being done by hot burning unleaded that causes so much HGF in K series engines and others! Check out the 'Fuel Cat' site for further evidence.
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The only sceptics are the unconverted
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ROVER OVERHEATING
20 November 2007, 9:51 AM
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TERRIERS AUTOS
Joined 8 Feb 2005
2438 posts
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And I bet you sell Amway and Avon too, if these products were so good, The oil companies would have bought it themselves, how come an oil company R & D dept. has not created or used this sort of product ?
Don't just talk about figures post them, talk is easy !
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ROVER OVERHEATING
20 November 2007, 2:51 PM
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BrianM
Joined 11 Nov 2006
540 posts
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I have a device that not only improves fuel efficiency by 20% but reduces wear in all components. 80,000km tyres only show wear of 20k. Just been used to improve the performance of rear shocks. This is next generation stuff & it is available now. However I don't expect anyone here to believe me, especially Terrires :)
I did offer it to the guys at BP last year but they didn't take up the offer. Unlike the http://www.broquet.co.uk/index.htm that has been tested by the dti, this has yet to be tested & proved. I guess that the oil companies are not interested in devices that save fuel, can't imagine why!
The future is the fuel-less engine. You transmit the information that makes the engine think it has fuel in it. Now that is next generation!!!
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ROVER OVERHEATING
20 November 2007, 3:07 PM
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vs
Joined 7 Nov 2007
3 posts
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Hi Terriers, BrianM
I had posted a message regarding my Rover 416 getting over-heated. Could follow-up on your suggestions only recently.
Checked the coolant level and I think it would perhaps been empty. Filled-it in & it went back to nought in 4 days . Clearly somewhere it was leaking. Also a lot of smoke coming out of exhaust when I used the car.
Showed it to a garage nearby, and they say that something called the inlet manifold gasket is causing the leakage and would need to be fixed. Due to that water/coolant is entering the cylinder - and causing excessive smoke as well.
They have quoted around 250 pounds for this (3.5 hours of labor + gasket + coolant). I dont have any idea whether this is reasonable or not - can you please suggest?
Thanks.
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ROVER OVERHEATING
20 November 2007, 3:55 PM
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TERRIERS AUTOS
Joined 8 Feb 2005
2438 posts
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Hi. It sounds more like they meant the head gasket, if they did mean the inlet manifold gasket (which I doubt) then yes it isvery expensive.
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