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ROVER OVERHEATING
19 January 2008, 1:06 AM
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TERRIERS AUTOS
Joined 8 Feb 2005
2427 posts
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Well unfortunately it sounds like your head gasket has gone. It's not the end of the world, butmake sure whoever does the job uses new quality parts including head bolts, gasket set, timing belt kit, water pump, thermostat andget the head machined, even a slight distortion can result in needing to do the job again. Obviouly the system will need to be thoroughly flushed.
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ROVER OVERHEATING
19 January 2008, 10:14 AM
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Click
Joined 17 Jan 2008
9 posts
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Well mine seems to be fixed. The coolant did need topping up after my test run, and have since taken it for a 25 mile run. The temp gauge stays just below the horizontal and the heater is back to its usual temperature. I still do not understand how a blocked pipe from the inlet manifold to the expansion bottle can give the symptoms that I had.
With regaurd to head gasket fixes. I have done various of my cars over the last 25 years ( I do run old cars) Dolomite Sprint,Nissan Sunny, Fiat 127, and my present Rover approx 40000 miles ago. I have never had a head skimmed, replaced a timing belt, water pump etc and have never had a problem. However the only one of these I would suggest you do is the timing belt as at 65000 miles it is about the right time.
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ROVER OVERHEATING
19 January 2008, 11:37 AM
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TERRIERS AUTOS
Joined 8 Feb 2005
2427 posts
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Hi. the blocked pipe meant that coolant was not returning to the expansion tank and you got an air lock.
Regarding you replacing head gaskets, it is not necessary to replace the water pump but makes sense when it is driven by the timing belt due to the labour content involved. I always fit a new timing belt kit and new head bolts too. Most head bolts are stretch bolts and should be replaced once removed. The same applies to getting the head machined, there is no point investing money in new parts if you are going to have to throw them away and do the job again because you wanted to save a few quid.As I repair cars for a living, I do not want them to go wrong after I have repaired them.
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ROVER OVERHEATING
19 January 2008, 4:03 PM
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whitevanman
Joined 7 Jan 2008
35 posts
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Yep, your head gasket is gone. The "cappuchino" stuff was an emulsified mix of oil & water. Not only are you looking at getting the head gasket replaced, but also the radiator as its almost certainly choked with this mess.
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ROVER OVERHEATING
19 January 2008, 8:07 PM
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rachelsam
Joined 14 May 2007
3 posts
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Thanks for your replies.
The MOT is up this month too. Nothing else wrong with the car except the head gasket. Im not going to pay to get it fixed. I had an escort and the head gasket went. Got it fixed at a reutable garage, they replaced alot of things for me but the car was never right again so i got rid.
Whats the best thing to do with the car now? .... Scrappy?
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ROVER OVERHEATING
20 January 2008, 2:29 AM
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whitevanman
Joined 7 Jan 2008
35 posts
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Well thats your own personal decision really.. But if the head gasket work were carried out correctly, theres no reason why the job shouldnt be sucessful. With older cars one really has to look at the overall condition of the car and not its market value. If its a case of having to spend a few euro on repairs, it can be seen as the cost of motoring to keep you on the road for the coming year or so. Its either that or the cost of depreciation of a new one.
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ROVER OVERHEATING
20 January 2008, 2:08 PM
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Click
Joined 17 Jan 2008
9 posts
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I agree, I have had a further 40000 miles from my Rover after the head fix.
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ROVER OVERHEATING
4 February 2008, 11:01 AM
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pastie
Joined 30 Jan 2008
3 posts
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Hi Mate,
I've got a rover 216 coupe N reg, I've had the Head Gasket replaced, and my car was over heating the temp would go up suddenly and when I pulled over I opened the bonnet and water was peeing out of the cap on the expanshion tank, once it settles I have to fill it up with more water. I have now changed the expanshion tank, the cap, the Radiator, the water pump the thermostat and it's still doing it I can't work out why the fan is working but i've now changed everything. any ideas? I hear you talking about the ball bearing is this in the Honda engine version of the rover aswell because that might be my problem but the way you have described it it sounds like you have the rover enginne. Any help would be great. Thanks.
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ROVER OVERHEATING
5 February 2008, 3:34 PM
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nigzy
Joined 1 Feb 2008
24 posts
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hi there all i have had most of the same problems with my rover 216 convertible it has the k sires engine after investigation i found out that it suffers a lot of problems been told that its a known fault on the k series replacing the engine is the better and cheaper way of doing it i had to replace mine i have now got a s series and touch wood not had any problems yet cost me 150 pounds fro local scrappy but be aware that this is for all engines regards the miles 1-250000 etc... if you know a cheep and good mechanic it will save you pounds many regards neil
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ROVER OVERHEATING
7 February 2008, 7:35 PM
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hurren
Joined 7 Feb 2008
5 posts
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we have a 1996 216sli bubble shape rover and laterly it has started to leak water in 2 places under the engine but can see where the leaks are,
so we have to fill it up with water quite a bit aswell but it doesent leak all the time, as all this week its been fine but started dripping today and the week before every couple of days it would drip,and there is a slight petrol smell in where you put the water in,the exhaust is smoking quite abit aswell,just had the spark plugs change and oil filter changed and put k-seal in where the water goes 3-4 days ago
please let me know what the problem is as im hopeing it isnt the head gasket as we want to sell it in april
please can you put my name in your reply so i know your replying to me
thanks
dan
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ROVER OVERHEATING
8 February 2008, 12:33 PM
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BrianM
Joined 11 Nov 2006
510 posts
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Dan, if the water is dripping down the front of the engine, by the drivers side wheel, then it is the water pump that is leaking. K-seal wont fix this as it is a rubber seal around a revolving shaft.
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ROVER OVERHEATING
8 February 2008, 4:46 PM
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southard
Joined 1 Feb 2008
10 posts
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hi there my car has no heating its a rover 214 sli twin cam 16 valve square shape on a n reg i have replace head gasket and water pump and still have no heating but have found out thermastat has gone so took it out and left it out and driving like that till i can get a new one but surely i should still get some heating
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ROVER OVERHEATING
8 February 2008, 5:00 PM
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RP
Joined 24 Sep 2007
1 posts
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ROVER OVERHEATING
8 February 2008, 5:28 PM
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r200
Joined 16 Jul 2005
1263 posts
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>>found out thermastat has gone so took it out and left it out and driving like that till i can get a new one but surely i should still get some heating
Without a thermostat(this controls engine temp) you will be hard pressed to get any heat at all and you will burn more petrol, so replace asap-then check heater valve between rear of engine and bulkhead these usually seize up and need replacing
But again without a stat in you wont get any heat while driving along
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ROVER OVERHEATING
8 February 2008, 5:32 PM
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tjp
Joined 15 Jun 2007
410 posts
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you need to put the thermostat in. the engine will take forever to warm up, which means no heater, and it's not good for the engine either.
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ROVER OVERHEATING
8 February 2008, 6:51 PM
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hurren
Joined 7 Feb 2008
5 posts
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just looked in the water tank and there are gold colour bits floating in the water not sure what this means as i put k-seal in the water tank so im not sure if its that or something else, the car is still leaking water every so often but can see where it is leaking from i know one leak is comin from the cam belt side but cant see where from tho any ideas what it could be
dan
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ROVER OVERHEATING
8 February 2008, 6:52 PM
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hurren
Joined 7 Feb 2008
5 posts
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just looked in the water tank and there are gold colour bits floating in the water not sure what this means as i put k-seal in the water tank so im not sure if its that or something else, the car is still leaking water every so often but can see where it is leaking from i know one leak is comin from the cam belt side but cant see where from tho any ideas what it could be
dan
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ROVER OVERHEATING
8 February 2008, 9:52 PM
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BrianM
Joined 11 Nov 2006
510 posts
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Dan as I said, if you have water leaking from the front of the engine then it is your water pump.
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ROVER OVERHEATING
8 February 2008, 10:02 PM
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BrianM
Joined 11 Nov 2006
510 posts
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no heat from the heater is either an air lock or the tap is stuck. If the cable is short at the tap then it's an air lock. Take the top heater hose off & run the engine let the water run into the hose from the heater pipe. Once you see a flow with no air then push the hose back on & you should have heat from the heater. You should also remove the ball in the filler vent hose/ inlet manifold.
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ROVER OVERHEATING
13 February 2008, 7:23 PM
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macker1
Joined 13 Feb 2008
2 posts
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have just bought a rover200 VI when it warms up there is water comming from the front of the engine by the exhaust manifold, has any body ealse had this problem, and what is the fix
thanks jimmy
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