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ROVER OVERHEATING
26 March 2008, 3:01 PM
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jezzer
Joined 26 Mar 2008
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Hi i have a Rover 200 series 1998 3 dr hatch i have been having problems with overheating the fan isnt cutting in and i have changed the BROWN TEMP TRANSDUCER PRT NO MEK100060 but it is still not cutting in the thermostate is working good but when i have it connected and the reservoir builds up compression and i open the cap a bit the fan cuts in does this meant that my reservoir cap needs to be changed please can you help me out
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ROVER OVERHEATING
26 March 2008, 6:04 PM
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BrianM
Joined 11 Nov 2006
509 posts
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jezzer, take a look back through this thread about the return valve. Could just be an air lock. With the cap off & the engine running do you get air bubbles in the filler bottle if so suspect head gasket.
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ROVER OVERHEATING
26 March 2008, 8:47 PM
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jezzer
Joined 26 Mar 2008
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ok i have just been out in my car and given it a good run in fact i gave it a good blast then when i got home the fan was working it seems like its cutting in but will check again tomorrow but when the heater is on it doesnt seem to be getting that warm is this also due to the head gasket i have checked the oil it is not milky like cappochino lol it is still clean when the heater is put on to the feet it seems warm but when i put it onto face it doesnt seem that warm is this also due to a air blockage? i am very new to these things but i like to see if i can work things out and do them myself before having to worry about giving it to a mechanic the return valve is that the one where the rubber hose goes into the actual head by the inlet manifold, as i was reading about that silly ball bearing and please can u tell me if i have a k engine or not how do i tell as the only thing i know is that it is a 1.4 16v engine and its a 1998 model any information u could give would be very much appreciated thanks
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ROVER OVERHEATING
27 March 2008, 8:54 AM
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TERRIERS AUTOS
Joined 8 Feb 2005
2427 posts
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Hi. Yes you have a K series engine, get your mechanic to remove the inlet manifold and ball bearing, it seems to be the cause of most gasket problems as you aren't aware of it sticking until it is too late.
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ROVER OVERHEATING
29 March 2008, 9:12 AM
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jezzer
Joined 26 Mar 2008
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ok as i am in malta and not in england could you please try to tell me what i should tell the mechanic i should just tell him to remove the inlet manifold and he will see a ball bearing and tell him to remove it is that all i should tell him?i am happy with my car as they are very comfortable etc but when i told my friends i was buying this car they told me your crazy and i wont get parts for it so if u know of a good respuible parts place in england where i can get parts sent to me i would be very much appreciate it the fan seems to be cutting in ok now but they do run along time without the fan having to come in not like a hyundai accent i used to own that cut in very quick
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ROVER OVERHEATING
29 March 2008, 1:17 PM
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TERRIERS AUTOS
Joined 8 Feb 2005
2427 posts
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Hi. You need to tell the mechanic to check to see if the ball bearing has already been removed. If not, to remove the inlet manifold and then the ball. Although if he knew his job he should really be able to do it without being told. Parts are easy to get hold of in the UK and I presume abroad, you could either get someone in the UK to get them and post them to you or use a company which does mail order.
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ROVER OVERHEATING
29 March 2008, 1:18 PM
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TERRIERS AUTOS
Joined 8 Feb 2005
2427 posts
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One other thing, you can't compare warm up times between different engines as they all behave differently.
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ROVER OVERHEATING
16 April 2008, 0:01 AM
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bedi
Joined 15 Apr 2008
3 posts
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Hi everyone, i just bought my first rover this morning, a 1999 214i being driving it all day and it drove perfect and temp gauge sat in the middle all day, then on my way home tonight i went to put the heat on and all i could get was cold air and the more i ran the heater the higher the temp gauge got till it got so high i had to stop the engine and the fan was running, i waited about an hour and the expansion tank was empty so i refilled it and continued my journey home (5miles) and temp was fine till i turned the heater back on and still cold and temp gauge started rising, and when i opened the engine bay half the water in the tank was empty, and when i felt the rad its cold to touch (only covered 5miles), and the pipe going into the top of the rad is so hot and the bottom pipe if freezing, but the fan does come on when temp gauge gets to warm, does this sound like a thermostat or the ball bearing miracle cure? any help greatly appreciated as i haven't even had the car a day yet.
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ROVER OVERHEATING
16 April 2008, 1:26 AM
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TERRIERS AUTOS
Joined 8 Feb 2005
2427 posts
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Hi. Whenever you get a new car you should always get it checked over, especially if it is a Rover, I always do the ball bearing as a matter of course on my customers cars, I suggest you get the same done too.
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ROVER OVERHEATING
16 April 2008, 1:35 AM
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bedi
Joined 15 Apr 2008
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i'm going to remove the ball bearing in the moringing, once its removed and pipe refitted, should i run the car with the expansion tank open to let any air escape? and should the bottom pipe on the rad be cold or how long should it take to heat up? thanks in advance
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ROVER OVERHEATING
16 April 2008, 1:50 AM
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TERRIERS AUTOS
Joined 8 Feb 2005
2427 posts
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It is normal for the bottom hose to be cold until the engine has warmed up and the thermostat has opened.
When you have refilled the cooling system after removal of the ball , run the engine with the cap loosened but not off, this will protect you if it boils over for any reason.
Keep an eye on the temperature gauge and periodically squeeze the top radiator.
I generally have the heater on hot and the fan on the first setting, this helps prevent over heating if there is a fault in the cooling system
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ROVER OVERHEATING
16 April 2008, 2:57 PM
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bedi
Joined 15 Apr 2008
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Well i removed the inlet manifold and took out the ball bearing, its small, was expecting something a lot bigger, anyhow when i was working on the car i could see water dripping and before you know know its a puddle.
With the ball removed i'm still only getting cold air from the heater, and the water tank is draining quickly, the leak seems to be around the left hand side around the belts, so i'm suspecting the water pump, is this where its located and its prob worth changing the timing belt at the same time?
Is there any way to check the heads ok, its driving perfect and aslong as the waters kept toped up the temp gauge is reading perfect and theres no gunk under the oil cap and exp tank.
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ROVER OVERHEATING
16 April 2008, 5:09 PM
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TERRIERS AUTOS
Joined 8 Feb 2005
2427 posts
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Hi. You can expect the water to drop in the header tank as you have probably had an air lock and the engine itself is dry. It does sound like the water pump and you should always replace the timing belt at the same time.
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ROVER OVERHEATING
17 April 2008, 6:58 PM
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Tony
Joined 23 Mar 2008
6 posts
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Has anyone out there tried using K-Seal and it has worked for them. I tried it and it only partly worked for a couple of weeks, so I contacted them and they said to try it again but mix it with coolant before adding to help distribution. This I did and it stioll did not work. Has anyone tried it with good results?
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ROVER OVERHEATING
17 April 2008, 7:36 PM
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TERRIERS AUTOS
Joined 8 Feb 2005
2427 posts
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Hi. I don't know what you are trying to do with it, I would never recommend using a product like that other than for a temporary repair.
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ROVER OVERHEATING
17 April 2008, 11:33 PM
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BrianM
Joined 11 Nov 2006
509 posts
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For the best result run the engine until hot without the coolant cap on. Once the thermostat is open then turn off engine. Put the cap on & take the top hose off the engine & poor in the sealant. Refit the top hose & run the engine with the cap off at first & top up. Take car for a run of five mile or so. When back home turn off & remove the spark plugs it release any compression. Leave to go cold. You may need to do this a couple of times. As terriers says this is only a temp fix to give you time to plan & finance your head gasket replacement. Don't leave it too long & get caught out. Good luck.
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ROVER OVERHEATING
20 April 2008, 8:51 AM
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Tony
Joined 23 Mar 2008
6 posts
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I have replaced the gasket this weekend and what a job it was getting the timing belt back on. I am still not sure if the tensioner is working as it should be but when the tewnsioner was at it loosest setting the belt was VERY tight.
The sealant I put in realy has left a load of deposits in all the water channels.
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ROVER OVERHEATING
20 April 2008, 9:05 AM
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Tony
Joined 23 Mar 2008
6 posts
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If you wwant a good technical gide to your Rover go to http://www.electronicmanuals.co.uk
It cost £9.99 for a downloadable manual of Rover workshop mauals for MG Rover cars and is a very good guide for all you DIY'ers out there.
By the way I am not connected with the company, I have just tried the product and found it good. Unlike my experience with gasket sealing products.
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ROVER OVERHEATING
20 April 2008, 10:36 AM
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r200
Joined 16 Jul 2005
1263 posts
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>>The sealant I put in realy has left a load of deposits in all the water channels.
Something this engine could do without as the waterways are small enough as it is without making it even harder for the water to flow properly,more chance of overheating again using additives!!
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ROVER OVERHEATING
4 May 2008, 5:47 PM
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George
Joined 4 May 2008
1 posts
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HI I HAVE A ROVER 400 SERIES S REG THAT HAS A HONDA ENGING I AM HAVING PROBLEMS WITH THE TEMP GAUGE INDICATING THAT ITS HOT ALTHOUGH I AM NOT LOSING WATER CAN REDUCE THE TEMP BY TURNING HEATER ONTO FULL CAN ANYONE HELP ME AS THIS IS LIKE SITTING IN A SAUNA.
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