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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
15 February 2008, 4:34 PM
Edited by Jon 15 February 2008, 4:40 PM
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Jon
Joined 6 May 2005
377 posts
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Hi Des I was interested in reading your comments & whilst what you say is correct, at present, there is nothing stopping legal action being brought against LR which would change matters considerably & here's my reasoning. If enough owners banded together to bring a 'group action' then it would be on the basis that the claim would at least exceed the 'fast track' claims & might even enter 'multi track' This would have cost implications which could be insured against. In addition no individual confidential agreement would be entered into which if it happened would allow LR to effectively divide & conquer the individual litigants as it did in the case referred to by you Once proceedings are issued then the court would be asked to order what is known as 'Standard Disclosure' this would force LR to disclose all records & documentation relating to the K series engine. Failure to fully produce the docs/evidence could result in, as well as sanction by the court, an order giving the claimant?s representatives the right to enter LR?s offices for the purposes of conducting their own search. Therefore knowing what is already in the public domain LR would be very foolish to fail to disclose. Armed with this I think LR would settle as I very much doubt that they would want this exposed in open court I know of a large legal practice who may be willing to investigate the possibility of such an action but 1st I need to know how many past & present aggrieved owners wish to join & are each willing to make a relatively small financial contribution of say £200 to get things started.
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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
15 February 2008, 7:29 PM
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filrabey
Joined 22 Nov 2007
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Hi guys, first of all a big thankyou, I have recently suffered the fete of the head gasket, and following advice from you, I managed to get LR to pay 1/2 of the repair costs (still set me back over £500) this was a matter of weeks after the warranty expired. I now have another problem relating to a very loose gear stick, I know this is off topic but is it another 'common' fault or am I being a little over sensitive?? Ps during the head gasket repair I also paid out for a full service at the same LR dealership.
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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
16 February 2008, 11:17 PM
Edited by istones 16 February 2008, 11:19 PM
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istones
Joined 16 Feb 2008
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Jon, Having bought a 51 plate Freelander 2 years ago, we have just passed the 50k mileage mark. Last Tuesday it had an MOT at a very reputable garage, and then on Thursday (14th Feb), I had to call the AA to tow me home. The AA guy told me about this website, and how we wish we had seen it 2 years ago. We are left with a useless car, that will cost an arm and a leg to repair (even if we do that, we don't feel any confidence in driving it). How can dealers/LR carry on selling the car with it's obvious faults? Ivan
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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
18 February 2008, 8:43 PM
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jacks
Joined 18 Feb 2008
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Bought brand new Freelander in 2004 costing nearly 17.000 pounds of my retirement fund. Last week head gasket blew at 44.00 miles car has been regularly serviced etc. rang Landrover paid to have car towed to a Landrover accredited garage 1 week later I've been told that if Landrover pay the costs we will have no guarntee on the work done, if I pay work eill be guarnteed for 1 year!!!! we have also been told that the head will not be skimmed if Landrover pay, Landrover are appalling they sold this car with full knowledge of design faults is there anything we can do?
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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
19 February 2008, 8:15 AM
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Mike Robinson
Joined 13 Oct 2006
59 posts
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Quote ... I've been told that if Landrover pay the costs we will have no guarntee on the work done, if I pay work eill be guarnteed for 1 year!!!! Unquote.
Have you got that in writing?
If not ask for it!
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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
19 February 2008, 10:44 AM
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Des Hammill
Joined 12 May 2006
218 posts
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Hello Jon and Chris,
Nice to hear from you again. Can you give me a land line so I can call you?
Kindest regards Des Hammill
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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
19 February 2008, 7:45 PM
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scubawho
Joined 6 Nov 2007
5 posts
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Hi all Went down the sales of goods act and are waiting now to pick up a replacement FL (TD4), thank god i had a bit of HP on my old petrol FL will let you know when i pick it up and they are left with something they cant do anything with
Mark
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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
20 February 2008, 3:54 PM
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Gavin
Joined 11 Jul 2005
38 posts
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Hi Des
I was talking to someone a little while ago who I know very well and he said that you share an interest in old Rovers.
As you and Jon know I've had a few 'personal' problems this week, and because of it I'm trying to get someone to look at the website who will remember when we met. Of course she won't remember me, but I've Jon who knows who it is. The point is that I was hoping she might be able to put me in touch with someone I believe to be a very brave person. Braver than I have been recently. It's another thing I'm going to try to do for other people that might find themselve in the same dilema I have been in. And had I not been in that dilema things might have turned out very differently. Any help in that respect would be gratefully respected. The story will involve many celebrity names, some very famous ones that have been in the news recently.
Keep an eye on the website.
Regards
Gavin
http://freelander.webhop.net
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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
20 February 2008, 5:04 PM
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Ken
Joined 9 Jan 2008
43 posts
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High jack's... I have just had my 04 FL fixed after the engine blew up on me after only doing 30000 miles and was told that i do not qualify for a warranty even though i have had a new engine fitted, but after being told it would of cost just over £4000 for the repairs maybe im wise not paying just to get a warranty.
Jack if you think about it, i have been told that the new engine will not fail this time as it has been redesigned but maybe i will get over the 30000 miles before it packs in. thats about 3yrs driving and yet the warranty will only last you a yr, so maybe the cost out ways the warranty.
What ever you decide you must get intouch with watchdog and tell them of your problem as they are aware of my FL and many more people that have been intouch.
Ken
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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
20 February 2008, 5:05 PM
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Ken
Joined 9 Jan 2008
43 posts
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Mike... have a read of the message i have sent Jack's with the same question.
Ken
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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
20 February 2008, 9:37 PM
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Gavin
Joined 11 Jul 2005
38 posts
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Hi Ken
Thought I'd try to generate a little interest with a story that starts with Prince Philip and almost ends with Al Fayed, almost...
http://groups.google.co.uk/group/freelande......the-crowd?hl=en
Regards
Gavin
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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
22 February 2008, 9:57 PM
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helen ed
Joined 22 Feb 2008
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I have only just found this web site and was under the impression by my garage that the head gasket "problem" was a rare occurence how wrong was that . My 2004 1.8 petrol FL not only blew the head gasket but the UV joints went as well (I only knew this because a very honest mechanic told me that they were on there last legs) I was one of the lucky ones I had had my car for 51 weeks and had a 1 year warranty Maybe I should have done the lottery that week.If I didn't have finance on my car it would have been up for sale unfortunately I'm stuck with it for another 18 months fingers crossed nothing else goes wrong. THe petrol consumption is ridiculous as well.
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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
23 February 2008, 11:42 AM
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Des Hammill
Joined 12 May 2006
218 posts
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Dear helen ed,
Get the garage to check that the fuel enrichment is turning off. It's a simple voltage check or, it can be done using 'test book'. The fuel enrichment should only be on for about 2-3 minutes. Make sure that there are no fuel leaks.
Disconnect/remove the rear drive shaft unless you are going off-road. This will improve the mpg by 2-3.
Kindest regards Des Hammill
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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
7 March 2008, 9:32 PM
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Rotary
Joined 7 Feb 2008
11 posts
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Just wanted to let you all know that we took our car for a second opinion and it wasn't the head gasket, the problem was the fans weren't working properly, mind you it still cost over £800 due to the console which is the part that works the fans had to be updated to the new fans, plus also the camshaft sensor, both these cost almost £1000 pounds. I do hope that the gasket doesn't go as well, though we have the V6 2.4 petrol engine and I don't think they are as bad as the 1.8. Fingers crossed!
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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
8 March 2008, 5:56 PM
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chris
Joined 21 Dec 2007
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I went to a garage in Derby - offered me £3,800 for my 2004 1.8 petrol freelander ! which incidentally had had a new engine in Jan 08 paid for by LR. So went on line and got a valuation from Carcraft who offered just under £5k no part exchange - drove there today and sold it! Whoopee !! Now looking for a car - but certainly not a LR - I will never buy another ever again!
I also bought the FL thinking I would have it for years - I thought if I bought british I would be ok- but looking at all the messages on this forum proves to me what utter c..p they are!
Good luck to everyone still fighting!
Chris
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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
8 March 2008, 6:10 PM
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jacks
Joined 18 Feb 2008
2 posts
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After all the probs we had with our 54 petrol 1.8 landrover we have sold ! We too thought we had a car for life, but after head gasket failure although LR paid the work was never guaranteed and we were sure reading all various comments that this would happen again or worse. We managed to get £5.000 for ours in part exchange to buy a car we would not normally have contemplated but had very little choice. Good luck to everyone still fighting cant believe that we were all sold faulty goods but with very little aftercare!
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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
8 March 2008, 8:54 PM
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christine
Joined 8 Mar 2008
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just had my head gasket done cost me 600 hundred pounds and for the garage to go and collect it was 80 i will ring my local l r dealer on monday to see if they can do anythink glad i was told of this site andy in dartford kent 07930409741
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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
9 March 2008, 8:45 PM
Edited by cnewton101 9 March 2008, 9:08 PM
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cnewton101
Joined 9 Mar 2008
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Just letting you know that our 2001 4 door freelander had this happen (burn to the ground). We weren't even in the car and the ignition was OFF!! the firey's said it was the power addapter in the centre console but it shouldn't even have had power to it because the car was off. We were lucky that it didn't blow up (thank god for slow burning leather) because the firey's said it had been smouldering for hours. We got the car second hand not even a year ago!
New thread started on this topic!!!
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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
14 March 2008, 0:12 AM
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cully
Joined 13 Mar 2008
5 posts
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i bought a reg 52 freelander 1.8 serengeti 3 door in march last year on 5 year finance!! with only 3 months warrenty and no service history. 8 months later guess what head gaskett blew. cost me £1165.00 to get it repaired as it also blew a hole through a piston!! two months after that the management light keeps coming on and i have to fill up with water/coolant everyday. it is now off the road as i really cant carry on driving it this way. has anybody got any advice to what i can do? i dont want to spend anymore money on it cause its costing me 130.00 amonth> i really feel ive been riped off and there nothing i can do about it. regards gaz
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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
14 March 2008, 7:04 AM
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Rotary
Joined 7 Feb 2008
11 posts
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Cully we had exactly the same problem that you are having, it kept boiling over especially when sat in traffic, and it was diagnosed wrongly as a head gasket, it turns out to be the fans may be working but not properly so we had to have the fans replaced, also we had to have a new wiring loom, unfortunately it cost about £900 pounds. If you have it on finance you may have some address saying that the car isn't fit for purpose, and telling the finance company to take it up on your behalf, if you read back through some of the past messages, someone went down this route and got a replacement car.
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