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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
14 March 2008, 11:02 AM
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cully
Joined 13 Mar 2008
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hi cheers for that! i think i will try talking to the finance company first to see what they say. ive got nothing to lose!! thanks
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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
14 March 2008, 6:31 PM
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Ken
Joined 9 Jan 2008
43 posts
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Chris.... good to see you have sold your car. Will you please send me carcraft valuation web as i need to see if they will buy my FL. Cheers..
Ken..
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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
16 March 2008, 12:10 PM
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shorty
Joined 16 Mar 2008
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Hi Rotry just found this site but seem to have the same prob,s as every one else. I had the head gasket replaced on my 2001 1.8 FR about 14 months ago but now the car some times leaks water . It happens after being stuck in traffic so i,m having to top it up all the time and when the key is out of ignition it makes a loud noise. Can anyone advise me on this. Thanks
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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
16 March 2008, 9:54 PM
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chris
Joined 21 Dec 2007
6 posts
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ken
The website is, webuyanycar.com - good luck!
I feel great now - I am not sitting waiting for things to go bang again!
I can now trust a car at last!
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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
17 March 2008, 6:47 AM
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Rotary
Joined 7 Feb 2008
11 posts
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Hi Shorty, I had the same problem, it transpired that the fans though
working weren't working to full capacity, hence it overheats when in traffic.
We had the fans replaced, the garage said it also had to replace the loom which I suppose is the electrical part of the fans, not a cheap job
cost about £800 though my car is a V6 2.5 engine, so it might be cheaper on a 1.8.
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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
19 March 2008, 8:46 PM
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dave
Joined 19 Mar 2008
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hi im currently havin problems with my 2000 freelander s 1st the heating went off yesterday.Then started kangerooing in 2nd gear seemed to be missfiring.then tonight i opened filler cap for oil and the oil on dipstick was bubbling could this be the head gasket blown or is it a thermostat problem ?i would appreciate your response . i am also 2 weeks away from my warranty expiring car is going back to dealership tomorrow(20/03/2008)where im hoping for a answer and solution to this problem thanks
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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
19 March 2008, 9:47 PM
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Ken
Joined 9 Jan 2008
43 posts
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Chris.... many thanks for the info.
Ken
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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
20 March 2008, 8:24 AM
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J.B
Joined 20 Nov 2006
35 posts
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Hi Dave,
Sounds like the Head Gasket.
Sell it as soon as it is fixed under warrenty..................
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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
20 March 2008, 11:17 AM
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cully
Joined 13 Mar 2008
5 posts
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hi it doesnt sound like ur head gaskett has gone but there could to be a thermosat problem. i would advise to get it repaired under ur warrenty 4 it expires!!
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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
24 March 2008, 7:28 PM
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feedup
Joined 24 Mar 2008
6 posts
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Hello fellow freelander owners I have just had the dreaded phone call from the wife she drove to see her mum today 200ish miles checked the water before comming home and yes it was empty she called rac out words were head gasket gone sorry cnt help wife is now on the train the head went at 41000 three years ago car is 1800 es on a 2001 plate L/R replaced it free of charge id only had it two days its now done 71000 miles with no problems ha ha it was due a new cam belt tommorow not hapening now question is how mutch do you think L/R will charge and or do you think the engin is u/s i dought the wife checked the water before she left and that she drove all the way there
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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
29 March 2008, 7:25 PM
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Soon
Joined 8 Feb 2008
7 posts
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To all the experts on this forum. I need honest answer and not speculation by angry Freelander owners. I have a 2000 Freelander 1.8 and it blown the head gasket. This is the second time in my ownership that the head gasket failed, but I think it was not repaired correctly the first time with the thermostat, new design gasket, etc. I was quoted for the repair by Landrover and they are willing to assist me with half the cost for repair. The cost (my half) is still quite high, but I need a car. The quote mention all the parts that’s going to be replaced: piston ring set, cylinder head bolts, hose & thermostat, etc, etc. My question is: Does the modification and new head gasket solve the issue with the head gasket problem or will it go again? Is there people that have this modification done that can tell after 50 000km there engine is still good? I am asking this, because I like the Freelander and have it for 4 years. Except for the HG problem, I think it is a very underrated vehicle. What I want to know is will the new modification solve the problem? I need to give Landrover a answer next week if I accept their offer to assist with the repair. Thanks, Sean.
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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
29 March 2008, 7:42 PM
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sjwlifts
Joined 18 Nov 2007
4 posts
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It is my understanding from reading all these threads that chances are it will go again.
Mine went at 30k as do most it seems, I made sure all the mods were done, I also got the head skimmed which will take out any casting/overheating issues when it is re-built you then have a better chance of both block and head staying together for longer.
It just depends on how much money you are willing to spend ?
Cost of frelander - cost of repair - resale value..............
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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
29 March 2008, 11:34 PM
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cully
Joined 13 Mar 2008
5 posts
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hi sean i had a modified head gasket put in, in november 07 and it blew again in febuary 08. a complete waste of money. the car is underrated as when it runs it runs good!! however the head gasket problem is rather an expensive one!! there is an obvious problem with the mechanics of the engine thats why they are always blowin!! landrover should realise this and replace all the engines that have this problem. hope this helps. gaz
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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
30 March 2008, 10:54 AM
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Des Hammill
Joined 12 May 2006
218 posts
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Dear Soon,
I don't claim to be an expert on the K16 engine but I do claim to have made a study of the engine.
For a start exactly what modifications are you talking about? Land Rover and Rover never ever suggested any modifications be made or instituted any to my knowledge. Remember they still claim that there is no problem with the engine.
The fitting of the new MLS head gasket can only be effective if certain aspects of the engine are to specification. If it is, the MLS head gasket is effective. The SLS head gasket is also effective but will require replacement as they deteriorate prematurely, the silicone does at least.
If an MLS head gasket fails, it likely does so because the engine needed attention other than a straight gasket change.
I would be very surprised if any Land Rover main dealership could strip down one of these engines and rebuild it correctly. They are also in such a rush as they apparently only get so much time to do anything. I'm sure that there are good mechanics at Land Rover but I doubt very much whether they would be given the time to do the job properly.
Main dealerships are in fact not geared up to handle a problem like the K16 engine was to them. For example in the USA a Ford dealership would not normally be allowed to repair a gearbox or differential. It's cheaper and quicker just to fit a new one. Mechanics as a consequence do not and are not required to be experienced in the repair of such items.
Unfortunately my car's K16 engine has been absolutely fine since I fixed it myself. I had hoped that it would fail and provide me with further insight into the problems of these engines and I could then scrap the car. No such luck.
I feel very sorry for non-mechanically minded Land Rover Freelander owners. You paid your money out in good faith and they most certainly have let you all down every step of the way or since about 1998. Not intentionally in the first instance of course but once they knew that there was a problem, they orchestrated a regime of 'there isn't a problem' when there clearly was. This is actually is 'the problem'. Land Rover could have handled this problem much better than they did. Being at war with some of your customers can't be a good thing!
Kindest regards
Des Hammill
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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
30 March 2008, 8:30 PM
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Soon
Joined 8 Feb 2008
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Thank you swf, cully and Des for reply. Cully, I understand that if the head gasket is replaced, a lot of other stuff must also be replaced, otherwise it won’t last. If the garage only replace the head gasket and put the old bolts, etc back, it will go in a few hundred km’s again. I had that option also, not from Landrover, but from a private mechanic that said he can replace only the head gasket and it will buy me some time to sell the vehicle or trade it. Obviously there is no warranty and the repair is not done correctly. Landrover on the other hand don’t work like that. They replace everything and quote accordingly.
Des, to answer your question – I’m talking about the thermostat and hose, the new head gasket and all the other 20+ different parts that’s on the quote that Landrover send me. So I’m not sure what modification, but I believe these are all part of the “modification” that LR say is suppose to solve the issue with the head gasket. I believe that LR are globally all doing the same “modification”.
A last question or thing that I’m wondering about is about the testing of the Freelander after it was designed back in 1997. I stay in South Africa and I read a article a while ago that LR did extreme testing with the Discovery 3 before it was actually approved for production. The same Discovery’s was tested around the earth on different continents in extreme hot, cold, etc conditions. And the Freelander, I wonder if that was done? If so, I believe that they would have pick up the HG issue back then. They would have definitely putting it under more strain than my wife twice a day picking up the kids at school!
Regards, Sean
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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
31 March 2008, 5:48 AM
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Neil
Joined 19 Oct 2006
11 posts
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Sean,
Please can you contact me direct - I also live in SA and I too have a failed LR Engine. Maybe we can both source a local mechanic to sort our problems out? My email is [Log in to view email]
Thanks.
Neil
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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
31 March 2008, 5:53 PM
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wendy875uk
Joined 10 Dec 2007
20 posts
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Hi there,
Could you tell me what exactly happend to your fl, after reading your post I was interested, as my fl is a 52 plate and the hg went in December 07, it is under warrenty for 2 years but on finace for another 2 years, I was wondering if the finance company would change it if I get anymore trouble with it, fingers crossed it's been ok so far. Cheers, Wendy
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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
31 March 2008, 6:21 PM
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Ken
Joined 9 Jan 2008
43 posts
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Soon...
just to let you know i myself have bought a FL ES 1.8 petrol new and had HG failure at 30k miles. Landrover offered and repaired the FL free of charge as a good will gesture, but if I had tp pay myself then I was looking at a bill of £4000. Landrover have assured me that I wont have a problem with the reconditioned engine they have fitted. what I have noticed is that the car runs a lot better than it did new. I think it would be best if you pay for half the repair and let Landrover fix the problem as long as they are willing to cover any further cost if the HG was to fail again, this is what LR services said they would do for me as they guarentee the engine wont fail and as you said it is a good motor.
Good luck
Ken
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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
31 March 2008, 6:24 PM
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cully
Joined 13 Mar 2008
5 posts
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hi the head gasket went in nov 07. we had it fixed and it went again in feb 08. the warrenty of 3 months had expired so we paid the first bill of 1.165 however iam not willing to pay for this again and i have wrote to the finance company to see if they will offer me a replacement or to end my credit agreement with them! there is obviously a fault with the vehicle and according to other freelander owners its always the same problem. i havent heard anything back from the finance company as yet. regards gaz
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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
31 March 2008, 7:13 PM
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feedup
Joined 24 Mar 2008
6 posts
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I no the feeling I just want to crush my freelander with a large truck lol the garage has just called and told me that my gearbox is on its way out
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