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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
16 October 2005, 12:21 PM
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Scott
Joined 16 Oct 2005
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From a Land Rover mechanic....The KV6 IS a head gasket blower. It is designed exactly the same as the 1.8 K series and the overheating is due to the thermostat being in the wrong place. There is a modification for this although the K Series engine is not designed well enough to cope with the heat it generates.
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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
16 October 2005, 12:33 PM
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Jon
Joined 6 May 2005
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Hi ScottWe know but could you get in touch? Thanks
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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
16 October 2005, 2:18 PM
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Scott
Joined 16 Oct 2005
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Hello, I am a Land Rover mechanic. You could not have done anything about it, there was no way you could have stopped on a busy motorway and as soon as the vehicle started to choke on the road, I can tell you from experience that even before you saw the smoke appear the damage was already beyond repair. What you have been told by the dealer is complete rubbish. You are fully entitled to have the vehicle repaired free of charge. Don't take no for a ansaw. Hope this helps.
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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
16 October 2005, 2:54 PM
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Kelly
Joined 5 Sep 2005
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To The Land Rover Mechnic.....we've now had our engine changed for a new one...would they have replaced with another k series engine? also, when i collected the car, it had come red stains on the paint work, when i pointed it out to them they said it couldn't have been anything they use as all of the chemicals are kept away from the vehicles. They tried to scratch it off with their finger nail, and took the paint work off instead! Its now been left in the air, not sure whats happening. Any idea what the stains could be?
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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
16 October 2005, 2:59 PM
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Scott
Joined 16 Oct 2005
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Hi, I'm a Landy mechanic. The thermostat modification is a Technical Bulletin from Land Rover so you could have tried to persuade them to pay for it. Unfortuneately the head gasket will still eventually fail...I can give you a promise on that one!!!! My advice is to get rid of the car before it costs you a severe amount of money as when the gasket does go, Land Rover will fight you all the way when it comes to costs. I would like to see my advice save someone from a hell of a lot of wasted money and many many problems but its up to you if you take the advice or not. If you like the Freelander then I would advise you to get a TD4. They are by far the best engines due to them being built by BMW. We have much fewer serious problems with these engines. Hope this helps.
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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
16 October 2005, 7:21 PM
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Marc
Joined 26 Sep 2005
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Hi allAfter my Head Gasket & Cylinder head went, which was fix free of charge (covered by warrenty) 4 weeks ago, a week later the exhaust manifold went. So i said to Rockside LD that I want all my money back, after a week they have said that I could not have my money back but can have a replacment vechile from there group (Pendragen) so I am looking at a BMW 3 serices Touring 320 SE lets hope this is better.
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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
17 October 2005, 10:43 AM
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Lozzy
Joined 17 Oct 2005
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Hi Beagles, we too are having the same problem with our V6!!! We accepted this car as a replacement for 1.8 which the gasket went ( we took the car straight back to the dealer, they sent it out without servicing the thing first, which came back to us then leaked and blew! waited for a V6 replacement as learnt of major gasket probs with 1.8 engines...assured we would be looked after by dealership, they sent letter of appology (after we advised that we would contact chairman of LR and take legal action! Anyway the V6 went 3 weeks ago, thermostat broke, engine overheated without warning, gage didn't operate...had to have engine replacement! just found out dealership also told us car had previously had 1 owner (untrue) we were 4th!!!car had only done 35,000 miles (LR RESPONSE TO ALL PROBLEMS IS CAR OUT OF WARRENTY) What a cheap fob off!!! DON'T take any of it, they know there's major problems with petrol engines they do pay up when confronted with legal action, have got 75% payed so far but am going for 100% before i proceed with legal route! We also had to pay for car hire for 3 weeks! WE WILL NEVER DEAL WITH STRATSTONE OF GLOUCESTER AGAIN (USED TO BE CALLED GREEN LANE) and getting rid of unreliable RUBBISH, buying German in future!!! never had bad service from them! Stick with it fight it out!!! Best of luck...EVERYONE OUT THERE BE WARNED DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUT BUYING FREELANDER PETROL ENGINE UNLESS YOU WANT MAJOR COST AND HASTLE...NOT JUST A PERSONAL PROBLEM...LOADS OUT THERE!
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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
17 October 2005, 11:24 AM
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Lozzy
Joined 17 Oct 2005
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DON'T...PLEASE DON'T!!! HAVE HAD 2 CARS 1.8 AND v6 fULL DEALERSHIP SERVICE AND SALE!!! AM NOW FIGHTING LR AS 2ND TIME ENGINE GONE 1 IN EACH CAR, MASSIVE BILLS AND I'M NOT GOING TO HAVE ANY NONSENCE FROM THEM!!! PLEASE BE WARNED, YES I KNOW THEY LOOK GREAT BUT WHAT'S THE USE...THE ENGINES ARE RUBBISH, MY DAD OWNS RANGE ROVER AND DEFENDER NO PROBS WITH ENGINES BUT POOR SERVICE AND EXCUSES FOR EVERYTHING FROM LR...BE WARNED. I AM NOW TRYING TO RECOVER OVER £1,000 CAR IS x REG ONLY DONE 35,000! UNBELIEVABLE, STRESSFULL AND WISH THE CAR WOULD BURN IN HELL!!!
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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
17 October 2005, 12:05 PM
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Jon
Joined 6 May 2005
387 posts
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LOZZYGet in touch. Click on jon for e-mail address
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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
17 October 2005, 2:55 PM
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Lozzy
Joined 17 Oct 2005
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Hi Scott. Are you still employed by LR? Do LR pay out for 100% for new engine if you pester them enough as i have had 1.8 and V6 engines gone, the only reason took V6 was we thought better engine and had not heard any different!!! both cars were from same LR dealer in Gloucester they gave us duff 1.8 and weren't interested in doing anything when engine went (untill we threatened to go public and legal with them) THEN we got sorry sorry letter back saying they would do everything to get us V6! V6 engine went 3 weeks ago. We now are dealing with LR direct as our dealership changed hands, most staff left including Dealer Principal, so now we are fighting to get 100% back and not settle for 75% DO LR try it on with everyone? Please give any advice so i can reinforce my claim, i'm going to go LEGAL on LR and public and wont stop until they pay up! Thanks
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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
17 October 2005, 3:24 PM
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Jon
Joined 6 May 2005
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LozzyIf you want really do want help contact us either thru the web site below or click on jon & email us direct http://home.austarnet.com.au/edwardsonline/f......nderheadgasket/
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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
17 October 2005, 6:53 PM
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Scott
Joined 16 Oct 2005
35 posts
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I am still a Landy mechanic. You have exactly the right attitude. Keep fighting until they give in. The V6 and 1.8 are both brothers in the engine family and are both as prone as each other to fail. If its a Freelander you want then its a TD4 you should go for. More torque than the V6 but slightly less BHP. The engine is built by BMW and we don't have many major problems with it providing it is serviced regularly. As long as you did nothing wrong to the V6 or the 1.8 engines such as run them out of oil or water, then Keep fighting!!!!!!
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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
17 October 2005, 7:01 PM
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Scott
Joined 16 Oct 2005
35 posts
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Hello. Not sure what the stains could be. They would have replaced the engine with another K Series so get rid of it otherwise you end up with a lot of expense!!!!!!!!!!!
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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
19 October 2005, 12:01 PM
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Richard
Joined 20 Sep 2005
4 posts
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More from Botswana I thought you would want to know that we wrote two appeals to Land Rover South Africa and they have now upped their offer to 100% of the cost of parts - we pay for labour and recovery. We think this is better than fair and are accepting. We didn't threaten them nor were we rude, we just pointed out the damage to their business of supplying poor engines which result in vehicles which are unfit for their purpose and being mean about helping owners with repairs. Regards Richard White
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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
19 October 2005, 1:47 PM
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junklander
Joined 1 Jul 2005
32 posts
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Well done Richard.This highlights the inconsistency of Land Rover's approach in dealing with this issue. We can hold up your story as an example of consumer revolt paying off eventually. Regards, Terry.
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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
20 October 2005, 5:54 PM
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Bob001
Joined 20 Oct 2005
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After a month of my freelander 2.5v6 sitting in a main dealer - they also managed to smash into it while it was there so its had 2 new doors along the way - i've come across an engine specialist who reckons he can repair the V6 for £1500 all in (regardless of whether he needs to repair or replace it). As the MD is quoting £4K i'm seeking advice whether anyone has experience of having it fixed elsewhere. This particular specialist are offering a 1 year guarantee on the repair although the bloke did say i shouldn't expect it to last forever and suggested I might look at selling after 9 months of the guarantee is up. Well thats a given anyway as this is the second engine its gone through in 50,000 miles but should i use the engine specialist to do the initial repair ?
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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
20 October 2005, 6:19 PM
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Ron
Joined 20 Sep 2005
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I had my 1.8 fixed at a reputable independent for 1/2 of what the main dealer would charge. The only problems arise when you try and claim the money back from Land Rover as they chuck in the old' unless an official dealer fixes it' rubbish. The way I looked at it was LR don't want to pay out for these repairs EVEN if you get it fixed at a main dealer or only try to pay out a pro rata amount. It takes a lot of letters and threats to get anything out of LR. If you get it done at an indenpendent and LR only offer you half the repair value back you are still quids in. Just be prepaired for a long tussle to get any money back out of LR. The important thing is also don't take any rubbish from LR. Anyone can fix your car providing they follow LR's procedures and use genuine LR parts. That't the law.
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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
20 October 2005, 7:11 PM
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Jon
Joined 6 May 2005
387 posts
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Hi Bob001If you want expert help/advice & are willing to join our group (it costs nothing) then click on jon above & you'll find our e-mail address in the profile
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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
20 October 2005, 11:53 PM
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junklander
Joined 1 Jul 2005
32 posts
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Hi Ron,I went down the same path after LR point plank refused to cover costs even if I had the LR dealer do the engine replacement. I had to buy the new engine from LR, however I got an independent to do the work at half the cost of LR. Now LR is saying that they can't consider my claim for reimbursement "because it was not repaired by a LR dealer". Damn...if only I knew which lies to beleive!! Can I contact you direct to compare notes? .... Junklander.
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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
21 October 2005, 6:07 PM
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Scott
Joined 16 Oct 2005
35 posts
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Hello, I am a Landy mechanic. By all means get the job done cheaper, who wouldn't? But you have to ask yourself this.....Should you be paying for the repair anyway? What you should do is get the dealer to repair it and get Land Rover to pay for it because it is not your fault the car is *!#%!@!!!!!! Providing you have not abused the engine such as run it out of water or Oil then you are fully entitled to have the repair 100% paid for. I have to say out of honesty that the best repair will come from a main dealer such as ours rather than a backstreet garage. We do know our stuff at the end of the day and any repair we do fully complies with Land Rover. Hope this helps.....fight Land Rover all the way!!!
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