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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
11 July 2008, 4:10 PM
steleeuk
Joined 9 Jul 2008
9 posts

JBT

any idea how much a solicitor would cost ? am sure it wouldnt be that much just to get an idea of wether or not the solicitor would take the case on or if he thinks we would have a claim.

Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
11 July 2008, 5:32 PM
steleeuk
Joined 9 Jul 2008
9 posts

*EVERYONE*

This might make every1 who has had freelander problems(all of us) feel a bit better.no 1 likes having to dish money out on repairs ect BUT if the freelander k series was a great engine then theres no way you would be able to pick up a 2002 plate for for between £2400 and £2800 they would hold their prices like BMW and TOYOTA RAV and cost about 4000+ because body wise they aint prone to rust ect,i agree this does not make people who bought new then see their asset drop dramatically in price feel any better BUT those of us who bought low shouldnt feel quite as bad as we make out..i do agree landrover are tossers tho over this whole gasket/engin thing !

Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
15 July 2008, 6:39 PM
wendy875uk
Joined 10 Dec 2007
18 posts

Hydrocarbons in cooling system GGGGRRRREEEEAAATTT

Hi again
Took your advice on air lock, mechanic done a gas analyzer check and hydrocarbons in the cooling system are 100+++
Now then....this is the second time head gasket trouble in the 12 months i have had this heap of junk, ( i do love it really just anoyed at mo) mechanic informed me cannot be repaired only new engine put in costing mega bucks .....just wrote letter to finance company asking them to either reapair it with brand new engine (wots the point in recon or second hand) or replace the vehicle, they have 14 days from tomorrow when they get the recorded letter to sort it.....any one with any experience of this....thanks again in n advance.

Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
15 July 2008, 6:47 PM
wendy875uk
Joined 10 Dec 2007
18 posts

Hi, how did you get on with the sale of goods act, going there myself, any help will be much appreciated. Thanks in advance. Wendy

Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
16 July 2008, 8:10 AM
Mike Robinson
Joined 13 Oct 2006
59 posts

Wendy,

where would your mechanic source the 'Brand New Engine'?


Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
16 July 2008, 11:05 AM
wendy875uk
Joined 10 Dec 2007
18 posts

Where indeed??? In other words im ********

Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
17 July 2008, 9:25 AM
JBT
Joined 2 Jul 2008
24 posts

Basically a solicitor will not cost much, I would propose the following sub groups.

1. All those who have had a head gasket fail and had it replaced prior to March 2006, as all these people will probably have failure occur again due inherant flawed parts (oil rail and Gasket.

2. All those who had their Headgasket replaced after March 2006 and want compensation for this particulary if their car milage is below 100,000 miles as this is the Land Rover extended warranty cut off point.

3. All those who have not had a headgasket failure, but have had no modifications since the car was manufactured ( external thermostat, new gaskets and beefed up oil rail.

If these 3 catogories are made, we should generate a strong force behind us, as all those who have not had head gasket problems will climb on board.

If we have a group of 50 plus then we will have very little cost, estimate 5-20 pounds each, this would be used for a lawyer only. All of this would be recoverable if we are successful in court.

I have now purchased the domain name LANDROVERDONTBUY.COM which I will set up in the coming weeks, but I would like to have some positive replies from members who would wish to join the group claim. I also realise that this site will only be visited by people with present problems, so 100's of people will not hear of my crusade, so if you know of anyone who would had problems, please tell them to read this message.

Best wishes,


JBT


Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
17 July 2008, 10:15 AM
kiki
Joined 26 May 2008
10 posts

Hi, count me in. 2002 Aug, 47000miles, headgasket failure in april 2008, changed by mechanic then complete engine failure. Mechanic has washed his hands with it. Car just sitting in the drive and cant afford a new angine yet. Im now living in France,Landrover UK arent interested and Landrover Fr want 4000 euros for replacing new engine.
my e-mail is [Log in to view email] let me know how to join your group.
great thanx

Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
17 July 2008, 10:31 AM
kiki
Joined 26 May 2008
10 posts

just did the watchdog form on-line, it was very simple. Took 5 minutes. Have many others also done this?

Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
17 July 2008, 1:40 PM
-  Edited by steleeuk 17 July 2008, 1:42 PM
steleeuk
Joined 9 Jul 2008
9 posts

JBT.

hi count me in regarding a claim m8 just had modifie head gasket fitted coz head gasket went at 54000 miles

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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
17 July 2008, 6:19 PM
wendy875uk
Joined 10 Dec 2007
18 posts

Count me in too.

Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
17 July 2008, 6:27 PM
wendy875uk
Joined 10 Dec 2007
18 posts

Hi, can u message me back as I need to go down the sale of goods acts and wanted some advice. Thanks

Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
17 July 2008, 8:53 PM
-  Edited by dudkat72 17 July 2008, 8:55 PM
dudkat72
Joined 6 Mar 2006
805 posts

JBT .

Far be it for me to mention this but do you not think that you maybe casting your net somewhat to big with the name LANDROVERDONTBUY.COM , surely your issues here are with the Freelander model and in particular those vehicles fitted with the K series engine ?

Im assuming they have legal teams seeing how theyve dealt with this problem for the past 10 yrs .... i guess really what im trying to say is ... dont give them a reason to sue you !




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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
17 July 2008, 11:02 PM
JBT
Joined 2 Jul 2008
24 posts

I think I have good reason to list a domain name Landroverdontbuy.com as I spoke to customer care at landrover for 7 minutes, stating that I was buying a secondhand freelander with a 2005 replacement engine, replaced by a Land Rover Dealership. The receptionist asked me for my registration, date of the enging replacement, dealership details etc. It was only because they said I would have no further head gasket problemsthat due to modifications made when the engine was replaced, that I re-rang the seller and said that I would come and see hiscar. Land Rover Customer Care had said the 2005 engine modifications were enough to give me head gasket failure free motoring. Needless to say, as mentioned in my earlier email, my head gasket failed 2 months later, while slowly driving in london (engine had done only 23.000 miles/car 53,000 miles. It soon transpired, when the engine head was removed that since the 2005 replacement a double gasket is now being used and the Oil Rail is significantly bigger, in other words my car was driving around with unsuitable Oil rail (presumable suitable for 1400cc K series Engines) and single gasket. So I say once again LAND ROVER MISS INFORMED ME, and if they did this to me then I am sure I am not the only one. If the wish to sue me over this I AM READY.

PS They, first said they had the 7 minute recording saved....they never found it, I have asked for converations since then, where again LAND ROVER CUSTOMER CARE STATE THAT THE OIL RAIL HAS NOT BEEN MODIFIED SINCE 2005, but it has, THEY SAY NOW THEY DO NOT HAVE A COPY OF THESE COBNVERSATIONS AS WELL!

I will also openly state on the dontbuy website how fantastic the dealership Charles Hurst at Park Royal London has been, They were compassionate about my problem and have given me photos of the two oil rails alongside each other, their part numbers etc and once again stated that pre March 2006 head gasket replacements keep coming back! Credit where credit is due.

Surprisingly when I asked about the Freelanders coming back for headgaskets, and if the owners were complaining and fighting for a refund, they would say no and commented that they all take the bill on the chin, and it is because of this weak attitude that LAND ROVER ARE GETTING AWAY WITH IT, once again lets come together and fight back, I will until they have repaid me every penny and guarenteed my head till the car has clocked 125,000 miles.

JBT

Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
18 July 2008, 7:46 AM
-  Edited by dudkat72 18 July 2008, 7:47 AM
dudkat72
Joined 6 Mar 2006
805 posts

JBT .

Firstly dont get me wrong , my intentions are not to try and stop you but just to point something out which struck me when i first read your post about the website .....im sure you realise what i mean ?


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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
18 July 2008, 9:34 AM
JBT
Joined 2 Jul 2008
24 posts

No worries!

Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
18 July 2008, 9:39 AM
Des Hammill
Joined 12 May 2006
218 posts

Dear JBT,

What you are saying here technically about the engine alterations or modifications etc is not correct and just goes to show the level of misinformation around.

I'm not going to go into the situation you face because, there is now I would like to think, a better way for anyone who wants to gain an understanding of what has happened with these engines/cars over the years. I have completed a book that deals just with the K-Series engine as made 1989-2005 (2.7 million engines) and it is now on sale as of this week. The Freelander is well covered.

If anyone would like to get one of these books they can do so by contacting:

http://www.assonpublishing.com
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At this stage you will have to ask for the book titled:

'The Rover K-Series 16V Engine 1989-2005'.

ISBN 1 84155 688 2

Kindest Regards
Des Hammill

Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
18 July 2008, 9:50 AM
JBT
Joined 2 Jul 2008
24 posts

While ytou say what I am saying incorrect information, are you worried on losing book sales if you say why I am incorrect.

I have these facts from my experience.

The engine was designed for smaller cc capacity and pulling lighter cars.

The strain from the Freelander cc and the weight of the cars is why most believe the head gasket goes in the freelander.

LR first moved the themostat outside the enging to prevent gasket failure, this did not work

The now have made a` bigger oil rail and use 2 gaskets.

Landrover dealership has infomed me that since march 2006, head gasket replacements afther this date are not coming back.

What above is not correct???????

Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
18 July 2008, 10:29 AM
Des Hammill
Joined 12 May 2006
218 posts

Dear JBT,

I'll ignore your implications about the book sales but sufficient to say the complete history of virtually everything to do with this engine technically is enclosed within the 130 pages and gives a far better and more accurate account of the whole proceedings than I could list here in a few lines. That's why people put books together in the first place.

Please note that I'm talking technical things only in this book.

The option is there for you read what I have to say or not to. I'm only trying to be helpful now and have only ever tried to be so in the past when there was no book on sale.

My own Rover K-Series engine is in perfect working order while yours presummably, is the one that isn't or wasn't. There is a lot people can do to keep their K-Series engines reliable etc, and to a certain extent prevent them from suffering a catastrophic failure, and, it's all in the book.

Kindest Regards
Des Hammill

Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
18 July 2008, 10:37 AM
JBT
Joined 2 Jul 2008
24 posts

At the risk of getting you a fraction riled in comparrison to how riled I intend to get Lad Rover....

Once agin you appear to be plugging your book and not answering a simple question.


Best wishes

JBT

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