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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
21 October 2005, 8:19 PM
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Jon
Joined 6 May 2005
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Hello ScottIf you really want to help a lot of ripped off customers would you get in touch please. The email address is in my profile
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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
22 October 2005, 12:16 PM
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von
Joined 22 Oct 2005
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I have driven 2700 miles in the last year, same main dealer full history, am being presented with bill for £2,800 (UK) , this includes head gasket prob, but I am totally disappointed and frustrated, are ther ant litigation groups to reclaim some value for what was £18,000 investment (1999) 1.8 petrol three door. Total milage 37,600. One very careful lady driver.
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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
22 October 2005, 12:38 PM
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Jon
Joined 6 May 2005
387 posts
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Yes Von there isGet in touch by clicking on jon & you will find the email address in the member profile
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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
25 October 2005, 10:04 PM
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craig
Joined 25 Oct 2005
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Hi Grayham , i was interested to read your note on free lander head gasket failure , but my god, i nearly died when i saw how many people have suffered the same fate! Mine is only five years old and done 45 ish thousand miles, passed the mot every year (i`ve had it three ) . It passed last monday , fine, and friday it died!" Head gasket typical" , was the comment from the recovery guy. It`s now at a garage and im dreading the bill, as christmas is knocking on the door and i got kid`s prezzies to buy.I guess im not alone paying for it on finance, so can u give me a point in the right direction as who`s door i should be knocking on ?
Cheers Craig
Any help would be appreciated.
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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
26 October 2005, 0:30 AM
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Jon
Joined 6 May 2005
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Hi craigget in touch
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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
26 October 2005, 10:35 PM
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Jon
Joined 6 May 2005
387 posts
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Hello ScottCan you tell me anything about the 4ltr engines
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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
27 October 2005, 5:16 AM
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junklander
Joined 1 Jul 2005
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Tony, I am sure you will find plenty of business to keep you busy. Your diagnotsic reports and technical opinions on the issue would be of great interest to the LRAction Committee. Should you wish to contribute to our campaign with technical data and mechanical reports, contact [Log in to view email] We are now gathering information from various sources, and your input would be valuable to us. Regards, Terry.
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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
27 October 2005, 7:00 PM
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Scott
Joined 16 Oct 2005
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Hello Cris/Jon. The 4 Litre engines are V8 petrols. Approximately 160 bhp, not much but very torquey. They are Rover engines and are used in the Disco 2's and Range Rover 3's (LP model). They are available in manual or automatic. There is also a 4.6, 4.2, and 3.9 version available, the last 3 engines mentioned are used across the Disco 1, Disco 2, Defender and Range Rover LP and Classic model range. These are all the same engine design with various changes to build and engine management, all Rover engines. Performance is good for these engines, particularly when you cosider the weight of a Landy. Not very good on fuel, you can expect a maximum of around 28mpg if you are very gentle. A very strong engine in terms of pulling power. I've seen a lot of these used for towing horse boxes, large caravans and even other vehicles. As far as problems go, only a few but they are expensive. These engines will take a overheat situation but go a little to far and you could end up with a engine replacement. These engines do have cylinder liners which means when you over heat them the liners move. The radiators tend to sludge up and cause the overheating problem. Occasionally air flow meters go wrong and cause a severe lack of power. These engines tend to knock H T Leads out frequently causing Miss-Firing. In my opinion I would have one of these if I could afford the fuel bill!! But I am used to driving a Diesel and the fuel guage on this never moves. The only vehicles I have replaced engines on or done head gaskets on are the Range Rover LP's and every time it's been because the cooling system has leaked either through the heater matrix or the radiator blocking up. The actual engine itself is a tried and tested reliable unit. They take a service nicely and are clean runners, usually passing the emissions test for a MOT with no problems. In general, the engine is not troublesome unless you miss treat it by running it out of oil or water. These engines do tend to suffer from many oil leaks such as sump gasket, rocker cover gaskets, timing chain cover gaskets and inlet manifold gaskets. Overall I would say these engines are great workhorses and will cope with any motorway easily. I've seen these engines come in to us in terrible states with oil all over the place and yet they are still running fine. You could do a lot worse than to get one of these. That's the most honest I can be....any other questions, just ask. Hope this helps.
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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
28 October 2005, 9:24 PM
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SMITHTO
Joined 9 Apr 2005
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Hi I wonder if someone can give me some advice: this has happened to my 2002 at 49,000 miles. I am just 3 months out of warrenty and have taken it to a village garage as this is where it broke down, and I did not want to take it to land rover due to the high rates that they charge, but the garage now tell me that it is a fully new engine needed and it will be about £,500 plus VAT!!!! I can not afford this and wonder if anyone out of warrenty has got land rover to accept responsibility and pay for it to be fixed! If so where did you start, I am called their customer care tomorrow morning but am sure of no sleep tonight worrying!! please help!! Toni
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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
28 October 2005, 9:51 PM
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Jon
Joined 6 May 2005
387 posts
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Hi SMITHTOYes they have. To make contact via this forum go to jon above & then to the email address
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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
29 October 2005, 8:19 AM
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Richard
Joined 20 Sep 2005
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Dear Toni,
Land Rover will probably offer to pay 55% of the cost of the parts and may try to insist that you take the job to a Land Rover agent. I live in Botswana and did better than this by politely but firmly pointing out what was wrong with the engine and Land Rover's obligations to supply vehicles which are "fit for their purpose". Other people's experience has been that if you start to openly threaten legal action Land Rover tend to dig their heels in. You need to be subtle.
Consumer protection law is much stronger in the UK (Sale of Goods Act 1974) than it is here. We were greatly helped by a sympathetic local agent (there appear to be many complete s**ts amongst them) and the fact that in our conditions the breakdown could very easily have killed us.
I suggest you go and have a chat to the Consumer Protection Officer at your local council and possibly the Citizens Advice Bureau so that you find out what your rights are.
Good luck
Richard
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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
29 October 2005, 1:35 PM
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Scott
Joined 16 Oct 2005
35 posts
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Hello Smithto. Sorry to hear about what has happened. Firstly, make sure you get rid of the car as soon as it has been repaired because it will go again, this I can promise you. I would suggest that for a Freelander you should be looking at a TD4 or the earlier L Series. These are much much better engines.....I would even go as far as to say they are good engines. Land Rover should accept responsibility at 100% of the cost. (I work as a mechanic on these cars so this comes from someone who knows). The problem is a design fault and not yours! It is not your fault at all as long as you have not abused the engine such as run it out of water or oil. You must have had the car serviced regularly and documentation to show this. It doesn't have to be a main dealer service history......Land Rover will try to throw this one at you but it has nothing to do with the engine blowing up providing the service was done correctly. A lot of people will say the service history is not important but this is rubbish. Although on a service we don't test the head gasket, there are other warning signs of it going which we could pick up on. This is the angle Land Rover will be coming from when you challenge them. Don't be alarmed when they take one look at your claim and throw it out.....they do this with a lot of customers. It may take several attempts to get them to cough up the money but as I say it is their fault and not yours. Above all, I would say bring it on as strong as you can to them. They will fight you all the way but don't give up.......It is not your fault providing you have looked after the vehicle. Hope this information helps.
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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
29 October 2005, 6:08 PM
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SMITHTO
Joined 9 Apr 2005
5 posts
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Hi Thank you for your advice, I called the customer care today and they said the same as you, to get it to them and they can not see why it would not be covered 100% so thank you and fingers crossed they do not try to get out of it when the vehicle gets there. Thanks again and I will take your advice and get rid asap.
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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
30 October 2005, 0:10 AM
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craig
Joined 25 Oct 2005
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hey smitho 5000? wtf they doin for that ? i got 2000 hard back 45 thousand miles , well loved and well looked after , ive done the extras , steps , light guards, alloys, u know. last week it passed mot for 5 year not a problem , 4 days later it died big style ! smoke , smellin like a bonfire , the lot . took it to a garage i use alot ,one man band but really good service. He said the head gasket had gone weeks ago and the water was mixin with the oil , so it died when all the water had finally gone to the oil causin the temp to get really high , and cause the oil was mixed with water it was too thick to do any thing ! he flushed the engine 3 times and changed the oil 3 , stripped the head and had it pressure tested to find a a crack over 2 barrels,(this is the only way to find out ) replaced it with a brand new one changed all the fluids and did a general engine health check and diid it all for 600 ps he towed it in too ! So mate find out wat the hell u payin for first and e-mail me don`t get ripped off by big name garages with high prices and apprentice staff !
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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
30 October 2005, 9:23 PM
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Chaz
Joined 30 Oct 2005
1 posts
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Hi having problems with my Freelander think it may be the headgasket can you advise on symtoms. Freelander is still running after having to be restarted but is dying when revved.
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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
30 October 2005, 11:08 PM
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Jon
Joined 6 May 2005
387 posts
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Hi ChazIf it is the HG the damage is already done, but to continue to use it is a wrong. Have the problem confirmed ASAP. To contact us for further advice go to jon then our email address.
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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
31 October 2005, 8:19 AM
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SMITHTO
Joined 9 Apr 2005
5 posts
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Hi my advise is do not even move it. Get it transported to the nearest land rover garage, if a reasonable age and you have full service history, (the history does not have to be LR). if not to your nearest 4x4 specialist as your problem has just started and will continue to get worse, therefore more money if you continue to try to start or run it. The final straw is when smoke starts flying out of it. Good luck!!!!
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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
31 October 2005, 10:13 PM
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Doug H
Joined 31 Oct 2005
1 posts
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My LR Freelander has just suffered a HG failure after 40K. We were initially told by LR (when it was just a suspected failure - regular coolant loss) that as we'd bought the car outside warranty any gesture on their part would be goodwill. The reason they hae cited for not offering goodwill is that the car was bought outside warranty (40 days outside warranty!!!). We have written to the UK SMMT and been given the same ridiculous response. Now the HG has failed completely and we are facing a bill of £3-5K. Can you explain how you got LR to pay100%? Was it just luck, persistence. I am so incensed having read this website that I am determined not to let this drop and pursue it to court and parliament if necessary. LR should have to pay for the cost of a manufacturing defect, not me. I have done nothing to contribute to the cars failure and have driven it properly throughout. It has a full service history from LR dealers and was bought as an "Approved Used vehicle". I do not see why I should pay for LR's poor quality of design/manufacture. It is disgraceful. Please, anyone with similar details get in touch.
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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
31 October 2005, 11:12 PM
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craig
Joined 25 Oct 2005
4 posts
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wtf they doin for that ? i got 2000 hard back 45 thousand miles , well loved and well looked after , ive done the extras , steps , light guards, alloys, u know. last week it passed mot for 5 year not a problem , 4 days later it died big style ! smoke , smellin like a bonfire , the lot . took it to a garage i use alot ,one man band but really good service. He said the head gasket had gone weeks ago and the water was mixin with the oil , so it died when all the water had finally gone to the oil causin the temp to get really high , and cause the oil was mixed with water it was too thick to do any thing ! he flushed the engine 3 times and changed the oil 3 , stripped the head and had it pressure tested to find a a crack over 2 barrels,(this is the only way to find out ) replaced it with a brand new one changed all the fluids and did a general engine health check and diid it all for 600 ps he towed it in too ! So mate find out wat the hell u payin for first and e-mail me don`t get ripped off by big name garages with high prices and apprentice staff !
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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
1 November 2005, 0:58 AM
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Jon
Joined 6 May 2005
387 posts
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Hi Doug HFor assistance get in touch with us via email. Click on Jon above then to e-mail address in profile
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