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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
12 June 2009, 10:54 AM
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Jon
Joined 6 May 2005
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hang on this is new one 'you bought the piece of crap so it's your fault when it breaks'The mind boggles at some of the crass arguments being put forward in an attempt to justify Land Rover & it's dealers both of whom do lie or shall we say attempt mislead their buyers constantly. Land Rover have known for years that the K series was totally unsuited - Not only that fitting in the Rover saloon was a disaster fixed by fitting the Honda engine Also If I bought a 7 year old motor & it failed so catastrophically within months or even few years then dam right I would be looking for compensation especially when I found out it was a major problem well known to Land Rover & I could prove it
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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
12 June 2009, 10:59 AM
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dudkat72
Joined 6 Mar 2006
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See youve added your own liitle spin on the subject there Jon .What iam saying is that you cant purchase a car that is 7-8 yrs old which subsequenly fails and then expect any come back on the manafacture. There is nothing crass about it .
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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
12 June 2009, 11:05 AM
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stu
Joined 1 Sep 2008
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yes we all agree with you dudkat we all went out and bought cars out of our means ,,have you been doing credit checks on us ha ha ,,,i think that most landrover dealers are dirty tricksters too selling freelander k series that they know have a major flaw ,,the only believer is dudkat, lol
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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
12 June 2009, 11:14 AM
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stu
Joined 1 Sep 2008
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i think your ill informed comments are stupid,,,,when i bought a used freelander on o5 reg with low milage from my local landrover main dealer last year i asked the question about head gaskets going and they said problem does not exist now only for it to fail and set car on fire 10 days later ,,,,landrover and there dealers are scum for selling a flawed product
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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
12 June 2009, 11:16 AM
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stu
Joined 1 Sep 2008
117 posts
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in reply to g pugsy
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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
12 June 2009, 11:19 AM
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Jon
Joined 6 May 2005
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I was referring to the poster who blamed the owners for buying a Freelander
Clearly I would not be able nor would I seek to recover my losses in the event a 7 year old vehicle failed - however the difference between that & a Freelander failing because of the HG is a totally different scenario from any other make in that I could prove the HG failure is a well known inherent vice -armed with that evidence I have little doubt a court would make some sort of awardHad I owned & driven it, major fault free, for 7 years then yes I doubt a court would entertain much by the way of compensation - however 7 years is not that long in the scheme of things & a court might still think I'd be entitled to something for the useless piece of junk I was now saddled with
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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
12 June 2009, 12:19 PM
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dudkat72
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i think your ill informed comments are stupid,,,,when i bought a used freelander on o5 reg with low milage from my local landrover main dealer last year i asked the question about head gaskets going and they said problem does not exist now only for it to fail and set car on fire 10 days later ,,,,landrover and there dealers are scum for selling a flawed product Tarring everyone with the same brush there Stu .
Your particular case is different to alot of other cases on here , im sure youve been compensated for your losses so i dont understand your problem other than them telling you there was no problem with the engine . What else did you expect or want ?
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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
12 June 2009, 12:36 PM
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stu
Joined 1 Sep 2008
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yes i am tarring landrover with the same brush and most of the dealers ,,i expect landrover to recall the freelanders that have the headgasket problem and offer a full refund to the owners and hugh appologies etc etc ,,indeed there are some people on this site that have said they are still paying for there freelanders 2 years after off loading them for peanuts ,poor sods ,,cannot believe the health and safety inspectorate have not been invovled with landrover selling a dangerous product that fails with no notice sometimes at high speed on motorways bellowing hugh flumes of steam restricting vision .or i suppose they might put the radiator expansion bottle inside the car on the dash so you can continually see the level ha ha ,i think if i had ONE NOW THAT I COULD NOT GET RID OF I WOULD DEFO PUT A LOW LEVEL WARNING BUZZER ON THOUGH landrover should at least offer that to freelander owners
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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
12 June 2009, 12:59 PM
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dudkat72
Joined 6 Mar 2006
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Stu.Weve been down the Recal route before on this site . It will not be covered under a recal because it isnt a safety related ie like a chaffing brake pipe for instance .
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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
12 June 2009, 1:16 PM
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stu
Joined 1 Sep 2008
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well i think it is defo safety related and should be a recall ,,try telling the driver on a freelander doing 70 mph on a motorway when smoke and steam comes through the vents and blocks there vision it is not safety related ,,as i said it is all about landrover bean counting ,it is cheaper to pay off the odd owner than do something about it ,,,the only good thing is that landrover has lost some repeat buyers of there products as it has me ,i went and bought a shogun diamond instead of dealing with them again ,so one good customer lost there who could afford there products and well within my means
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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
12 June 2009, 1:27 PM
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gpugsy
Joined 30 Mar 2006
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Stu, so what you are saying reading between the lines is that the H.G failed and the engine caught fire assuming that the oil and water had been checked before you set out, there was no smell from the engine no loss of power and the temp gauge remained normal giving you absolutly no warning that there was a catastophic faliure occuring with your engine.MMMmm.
Funy thing is, this sort of thing happens every day with any number of different vehicles regardless of whether they are Landrovers or not, the thing is most people just get the car repaired and not moan about it, its all part of the joys of owning a car i have been there myself with a 5 year old Ford, I paid for the repair and just got on with life rather than feeling sorry for myself.
Keep on smiling :)
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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
12 June 2009, 1:42 PM
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stu
Joined 1 Sep 2008
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well i am smiling as got a full refund off landrover dealership and a few k compensation to keep quiet,,good having a wife as a solicitor ,,i would be happy to pay for a out of warranty repair on any car i owned but not a freelander as it is a design fault ,,i am thinking you are another landrover spy on the site ha ha are landrover still owned by tata if so they could rebadge them as TAT ha ha
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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
12 June 2009, 1:53 PM
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gpugsy
Joined 30 Mar 2006
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So if you had 'a few k to keep quiet' why are you on here whining if landRover picked up the bill, bit of a slap in the face to the people on this site who didn't get anything or are you just rubbing salt into the wounds of others?
As for being a 'LandRover Spy' no sorry I am a LandRover owner and very happy with it too, just get fed up with hearing people moan especially when they have no complaint like yourself who not only got their car repaired but were compensated also. Like I said MMMMnmmmm!
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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
12 June 2009, 2:33 PM
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Jon
Joined 6 May 2005
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The truth I imagine Then perhaps he wouldn't have bought the car & suffered as a consequence
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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
12 June 2009, 2:47 PM
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Jon
Joined 6 May 2005
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I suspect pugsy is a troll as apparently those who got paid, probably after much grief & perhaps suffering deceit by the dealer until they kicked up enough of a stink that is, should be thankful they weren't left to stew & thousands out of pocketThe fact that this thread & other similar forums has been running for over 4 years all discussing the exact same problem seems to escape some folk
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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
12 June 2009, 2:48 PM
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JBT
Joined 2 Jul 2008
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I am sorry but Land Rover did not build a car that would be reliable, this is the hub of the issue and , numerous faults that a a honest manufaturer would have called back and rectified the fault, the first fault is the head gasket blowing as a too big cc capacity was made for small engine block, other faults are also associated with the head gasket. This is DESIGN FAULT and while you say that there is no comeback on a car that is 7 years old, well if the owner has owned from new he has head gasket problems even after warranty then he is not at fault , as he was persuaded by LandRovers reputation that the car was well designed and designed to last -AS EVERY CAR SHOULD, also a person who buys second hand from a Landrover dealership should also be on the same moral high ground, also in the case of myself, who actually rang LANDROVER CUSTOMER CARE prior to owning the car, to ask if 2005 modifications would prevent future headgasket failure and was LIED TO, I would say I also have the moral high ground, I also believe anyone who has purchased a Freelander secondhand from non LAND ROVER dealers and private sale are also on the moral high ground and will continue to be until LAND ROVER place large adverticements in national newspapers, and ask the DVLA to include on any Petrol Freelander LOG BOOK that this car is badly designed and will have head gasket failure. Lets take my 2001 car, in its past prior to my purchasing last year, I know it suffered head gasket failure in 2005 and the engine was replaced ( it probably has sufferd head gasket more times than this but LandRover would not tell me), when I purchased it in 2008 , 3 months later after only purchasing due to LAND ROVERS implicid lying to me and then denying the conversation took place that there would be no further headgasket problems..., the head gasket failed, New MLS gasket fitted a, 5 months later it fails again. Now 11 months after head gasket was replaced I have noticed that the fluid level has started to drop which in my book denotes future headgasket failure again. You cannot call this any thing but design fault, even a Russian Trabant is more reliable, in fact you tell me what other car suffers such bad headgasket failure? Most registered vehicle distmatellers will say that of the Land Rover cars coming in from crashes, over 50% of the freelanders have symptoms of head gasket failure, implying that owners rather than spend another £800-£4000 on repairs fake an accident to get out of the hole they are in. I will not sell this on to some other other mug and I am going to expose LandRovers appalling behaviour very soon with some good press articles. In the mean time LANDROVERDONTBUY.COM is there for all who wish to join. Lets take them down! Best wishes JAMES BT LANDROVERDONTBUY.com
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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
12 June 2009, 3:08 PM
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stu
Joined 1 Sep 2008
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in reply to gpugsy,,i am on this site to try and help people like myself who had alot of grief owning landrover freelanders ,,i only came across this site trying to find profe that landrovers had suffered from setting on fire ,i stay a member on this site to pass on knowledge i have from buying and selling cars over 27 years and dealing with car dealers ,,if you dont like that tough ,i am certainly not on here to RUB SALT IN WOUNDS OF PEOPLE WITH FREELANDER FAULTS ,,,WHY ARE YOU ON HERE ARGUING LANDROVERS CASE ,I BELIEVE YOU ARE A DEALER AND ARE WORRIED TATA HAVE SEEN SENCE AND ARE GOING TO REBADGE THE CARS TAT HA HA ,,, indeed there is a recall on now on the new freelanders that have been setting on fire ,,and as for checking oil and water level on your freelander every time you take it out what a joke you should not have to do that on any car now days
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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
12 June 2009, 3:13 PM
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dudkat72
Joined 6 Mar 2006
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JBT.The Freelander has been recalled for countless safety related issues but will not be recalled for the hg failure as it poses very little danger . You continue to state that your headgasket failed again twice but i suspect the original fault was left undetected .
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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
12 June 2009, 3:15 PM
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dudkat72
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Stu .Freelander 2 setting on fire ?
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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
12 June 2009, 3:18 PM
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stu
Joined 1 Sep 2008
117 posts
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very little danger what a joke ,,if there is any danger it should be recalled ,,like i say again landrover bean counting ,,my wife and kids could have burnt to death in my 10 day old freelander
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