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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
8 July 2009, 9:03 PM
DONT BUY A FREELANDER
Joined 8 Nov 2008
137 posts

I agree with you Stu, the Freelander will never ever be a reliable car.

No matter what upgrades you do on it. And even if you check the water and oil every day.

Land Rover gave up trying to solve the problems years ago. And now they do not make this model of Freelander. Well they obviously feel they have gotten away with it.

There are far too many disaster stories on the various forums to think otherwise.

If Dudkat and CBR freelander think the opposite then thats their choice.


Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
8 July 2009, 9:06 PM
DONT BUY A FREELANDER
Joined 8 Nov 2008
137 posts

I think Land Rover are finished anyway. Its only a matter of time.

Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
8 July 2009, 9:10 PM
stu
Joined 1 Sep 2008
117 posts

it is probebly ok to have a freelander if you are not on a water meter

Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
8 July 2009, 9:12 PM
DONT BUY A FREELANDER
Joined 8 Nov 2008
137 posts

Trust me its only a matter of time before your LR lets you down big time.

Just keep on driving it. Its only a matter of time I would say that if you keep it for another 12 months, then you will definately suffer another headgasket failure.

As sure as eggs are eggs.

Keep plenty of money in your bank account, you are definately going to need it.


Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
8 July 2009, 9:16 PM
cbr freelander
Joined 20 Aug 2006
154 posts

Cant we just maybe try to focus on why this forum is here?
Its had millions of hits, because people obviously have a problem.
Agreeing and disagreeing with others is fine, but i certianly dont see the good in having a go at the people who could help you..
Not talking about land rover either.

Im sure between us all, and there are a few of us, we could come up with a solution.Maybe not a permanant one, but one thats cheap enough to do.
And as for checking your levels every day, yes with this car it is probably advisable, but i came up with a device that tells you when the level gets low, so you dont look like a plank to your neighbours when you pop the bonnet every morning.
Its a very simple device and landrover even supply it.£18 quid and with a little know how, anyone can fit it..It can either be set to illuminate a light or sound a buzzer when your levels get low.

I'll probably get slated again, but if anyone is interested, im sure dudkat could tell you what it is and exactly what model its for...If memory serves me correctly, its a level sensor for a 2005 freelander, which attaches to the hose in your expansion bottle..So when the water empties out of it, it completes the circuit and does whatever you want....buzz a buzzer or light a light...
Its solutions and fixes like this we should come up with, instead of bitching about how *!#%!@ land rover are.



Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
8 July 2009, 9:19 PM
DONT BUY A FREELANDER
Joined 8 Nov 2008
137 posts

I agree with Stu, Land Rover have NOT solved the problem of the headgasket. But then theres the:

Tranfer box
Gear box
Electrical problems etc etc.

There is no solution for putting the Freelander right. Land Rover did not do it. And certainly are not interested in sorting it now.

I have read litterally hundreds and hundreds of people unhappy with the Freelander on all the review sites, might even be thousands by now.

So my advice is if you have the FREELANDER, sell it before it makes a very very big dent in your bank balance. AND IT WILL!!!


Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
8 July 2009, 9:20 PM
stu
Joined 1 Sep 2008
117 posts

wouldnt it be great if landrover would free of charge fit the low water level warning kit to all freelanders

Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
8 July 2009, 9:25 PM
DONT BUY A FREELANDER
Joined 8 Nov 2008
137 posts

I think you made a big mistake there, if you were offered that much, then I think you should have sold it. Only time will tell.

Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
8 July 2009, 9:40 PM
DONT BUY A FREELANDER
Joined 8 Nov 2008
137 posts

I agree with you Stu, Land Rover should have fitted this years and years ago.

The customer paid £20000-£25000 for their Freelanders, and Land Rover knowing there was a problem with water loss would not even do a recall to fit a alarm, this would have cost them peanuts. They could have done it as part of the service schedule.

Land Rover made £££££££'s in repair bills for blown headgaskets and new engines. So that is probably why they did not fit the water loss device.

Well done Land Rover


Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
8 July 2009, 9:46 PM
Keith
Joined 20 Sep 2005
32 posts

"and Land Rover knowing there was a problem with water loss would not even do a recall to fit a alarm, this would have cost them peanuts."

As we all know Land Rover say there isn't a problem, and that would be admitting there is.
But the head gasket isn't the only issue!!!


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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
8 July 2009, 9:53 PM
steleeuk
Joined 9 Jul 2008
44 posts

My m8 got a brand new BMW last september,its been back to the garage about 9 times since then and the service hes had has been crap,he said he would never have another BMW again! im surprised as i always thought BMW were good cars ! ob theres faults on every make of car i guess the difference is the after care the buyer recives which counts.

Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
8 July 2009, 11:12 PM
dudkat72
Joined 6 Mar 2006
906 posts

Cbr.

Things have moved on slightly , my hands are no longer dirtied with the Land Rover filth just get covered in ink now as ive been transformed into a pen-pusher .
Im fine thanks , hope you are well also ...its been quite a while like you say probably 2 yrs atleast.....one things not changed ....i still need my flack jacket though !!

We were very early stages with the MLS headgasket , back then the early signs looked very good and have stayed that way also which is promising. We still have not had any repeat failures as yet bearing in mind its nearly 2 1/2 yrs ago since the first were fitted .

There have been several reports on here of repeat failures but my suspicions are that these vehicles had an underlying problem that was left undetected. Stewart gave some very good advice on here recently about the job being carried out 100% and not to cut corners , i still think this is happening due to some people saying to get it repaired cheapily and sell it on a asap...of course all they are doing is giving the new owner the headache and pulling more people onto this site complaining about hg failure....its a vicious circle.

I vowed ages ago never to come back on here but i still do....keeping the advice the same , trouble is my experience with this vehicle differ from everybody elses and of course will naturally cause conflict because its a very emotive subject . Just every now and again though you get the odd person who ( like yourself )as actually appreciated the advice and has had the inteligence to understand what im trying to say and not to turn it round and complain that im defending LR.


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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
8 July 2009, 11:54 PM
steleeuk
Joined 9 Jul 2008
44 posts

Dudcat

Hi,i did ask you a bit back about the purge valve and you didnt reply to me,the question was if i disconnect it will any damage be done if i drive without it ?

ta lee


Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
9 July 2009, 0:05 AM
Stewart
Joined 13 Jun 2009
114 posts

Come on Girls - Cruella and Shaz!
I hear you in Cape Town. I am desperately trying to log something onto a LR Communication Site on all our behalf?

There is nothing Worldwide available for an Email - Just Sales - Sales and more Sales!

It's all very well suggesting Solicitors, but we all have lives and COSTS!

I may well lose my T Eng (CEI) qualification, but let's get real on this stuff - LR ARE NOT BEHAVING LIKE HUMAN BEINGS!

I am a Tech, and yet, I am QUESTIONING THE ETHICS OF LandRover Worldwide, let alone UK.

Both you ladies' had NEW VEHICLES (and others) - but let's concentrate on the 'Cruella and Shaz issues' ?

You have both had LANDROVER PRODUCTS from NEW ?

You have both had similar ENGINE FAILURE's ?

You have both received the same teatment and result, from the PURCHASING Landrover DEALER ?

You have both received the same treatment from LANDROVER UK ?

I have had Email comm with (earlier contributor) Rob about a
'CLASS ACTION' -

forget it guys and gals. There is 'NOBODY' to nail!

The Ex Rover Company AH's have retired with HUGE pensions and LIFESTYLES!

The current LR Guys are very vulnerable with the circumstances.
They must come onto the Forum with a statement!

Telfer and I, still need to know what supplier V6 Motors you girls have in your LRs?

Apert from this, I personally hear your plea - yet am helpless in solving the issue. (Like ALL of us)

Best regards,

Stewie - Cape Town.



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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
9 July 2009, 0:36 AM
Stewart
Joined 13 Jun 2009
114 posts

Here, here ... Stu. MG TF's too, Stu!

Freegs - it rhymes with your God Son's Rover VVC issue ???

Check out your Buddies with Lotus Elise', too -

see, it also rhymes - dadkat72 (sp) .....

Best wishes,

the 'K18 Rover Series Tech' from Cape Town, South Africa!

(PS If he keeps it - Please do wot I and Telfer have submitted - NB NB!)


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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
9 July 2009, 0:57 AM
Stewart
Joined 13 Jun 2009
114 posts

Gud to see u contributing again.

I am the 'New Boy' on the Blok!

So how is the MLS?
And did u have it ALL dun? Bolts and all?

I have moved from Tech over, to the Emotional aspects of LR.

They really are disgusting with the few NEW OWNERS, even after
the Warranty.
Wot's more, the way they have treated a few 'LR Supporters' ?
And, we are not only talking Freebies!

I need you to carefully read contributions from Shaz and Cruella.
Both have other LR products in the family - ALSO with S H I T E !
As a Tech, and understanding the 'dudkat72' (sp) angle, there is ALWAYS another story ?

Look forward to more 'chin chin'.

Stewart - 'The Tech' from Cape Town.

(Think I am terrible - Wait for 'the Telfor' from the Rover 75 Forum!)




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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
9 July 2009, 1:22 AM
Stewart
Joined 13 Jun 2009
114 posts

Here, here - cbr Landrover.

I am 'EMOTIONAL' first, then Tech. You have convinced me to return to the Technical side of Rover Series K18 motors!

As a new comer, I came on with 'HUGE' Tech advice. Then read the 'EMOTIONAL' stuff -
my word, did I read more, and more.

Here we are, reading your re - entry to Atmosphere.

Welcome home.

Let's try and work on K18 HGF!

My personal interest, success' with MLS - USING THE FULL KIT with
NEW BOLTS ? (Respective to my submission with Telfer Copy/Paste)

Best regards,

Stewart W - T Eng (CEI)
Cape Town


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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
9 July 2009, 1:34 AM
Stewart
Joined 13 Jun 2009
114 posts

Kool stuff Steeluk.

How's it going with u and yr Fby?

Remember. U R the talk of the forum, having dun the MLS kit as suggested. I am interested in your 'old' reused Bolts!

Stewart - CT and 'Telfor - Rover 75 Forum' are proud of u Brother.

Just keep that LR K18 working, and report in regularly.

Stewart W - Cape Town.




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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
9 July 2009, 1:46 AM
Stewart
Joined 13 Jun 2009
114 posts

Just in passing - I had forgotten that my friends have run a Freebie in Cape Town from new !
It is an 03 Vin, same as my MG TF. No problems yet??????
Must call and hear what Kms so far.

I agree with your issue - but let us get the Forum together for a 'fix' and positive move.

Stewart W - Cape Town.


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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
9 July 2009, 2:14 AM
Stewart
Joined 13 Jun 2009
114 posts

You are on the right track dukat72 and cbr .......

Sorry that my previous messages have followed 1 by 1. They were actual replies to specific messages.

You willhave to guess who - because EVEN the WEBSITE has gone Bonkers!

Keep it going ....... I want to hear POSITIVE K18 MLS results please.

Gaby and I have only covered 176kms since the SAR 21k job on our MG TF K18! Early days, 'Don't Buy a Landrover' !

I also need the detail of the Girls' V6 production.

Best wishes to you all.

Stewart W - Cape Town.




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