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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
1 October 2009, 9:19 AM
Des Hammill
Joined 12 May 2006
224 posts

Stewart W - Cape Town

It's been some time since I looked at this site and I've read what you have said with interest. Firstly there are no unanswered questions about the K-Series engine, as far as I'm concerned. All of the necessary information is out there, for example the book I put out on this specific subject, 'The Rover K-Series 16V Engine' ISBN 1-84155-688-2/9 781841 556888, explains in detail the causes and most effective cures/rebuild techniques to make these engines as reliable as it is possible to get them. There is no need to keep churning the possibilities over and over again looking for answers, it's all been done before by myself and others.

Hello dudcat72, I hope all is well with you.

Kindest Regards
Des Hammill


Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
1 October 2009, 7:01 PM
stu
Joined 1 Sep 2008
117 posts

keep up the good work stew in cape town,,,as you look for a cure to get the engine even better repaired .

Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
1 October 2009, 9:04 PM
Stewart
Joined 13 Jun 2009
114 posts

Thank you Des. I have yet to get your publication and sincerely appreciate your post 1st Oct.
Yup, I have rattled on a bit with repeated postings, but every new comer
on the Forum does not have the inclination to read past posts on the now 183 pages! I only read 40 pages and then got bored!
Telfor (Scotland) and I have had a few PM's, with which I have learnt so much. What an amazing background he has had in the Motor Indusrty.
My last 'rattle' -
IDENTIFY THE CAUSE, and RECTIFY IT PROPERLY, WITH THE CORRECT PARTS AND PROCEDURES.
Sadly, my Lady does not like the 'Hardness' of the MG TF, so my coice will be to stick to my 69 MGB. The TF is for sale.
Kind regards, Stewart W - Cape Town.




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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
1 October 2009, 9:17 PM
Stewart
Joined 13 Jun 2009
114 posts

Thanx Stu. Appreciate your post. Stewart W.


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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
2 October 2009, 8:49 AM
DONT BUY A FREELANDER
Joined 8 Nov 2008
137 posts

Hi all found 5 minutes to read a couple of your comments, to Wendy I say get the Freelander repaired then sell it on.

People keep saying on this Website that the Freelander headgasket problem has been cured. I think some one said ''no reported issues with head gasket failure in the last two years with the new multilayer gasket etc''. Whose facts are these, We need proof from a professional body. And why are Land Rover not posting this comment on this website that the headgasket failure issue has been cured? Certainly more than enough headgasket failures report on this websie.

With the Freelander there is more than one issue with it. What about the risk of fire, gearbox failure, transfer box failure etc. All of these things I suffered when I owned a Freelander.

Wendy I know the car drives lovely and you probably feel great driving it. But this 4x4 will eventually breakdown again and again. It'll end up costing you a fortune to repair.

The 4x4 has had its day, sell it while you still can!

If you are thinking of even buying a Freelander, then make sure you have a very very good bank balance because you are going to need it!

My repair bills on the Freelander that I owned ran it £1,000's, you have been warned. I personally know 3 other of my friends who have had Freelanders, they all had major problems, they all would never buy one again. BUYER BEWARE!!!



Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
2 October 2009, 6:47 PM
dudkat72
Joined 6 Mar 2006
906 posts

DONT BUY A FREELANDER.

Why do you continue the way you do...if you havent realised by now this isnt the reason for this thread.
After telling you so many times that this has fixed the problem you still continue to ask the same questions.

We all know that your Freelander failed after the new gasket was fitted but ive told you time and time again that i strongly suspect that your original job was not done properly. I maintain that since the new hg mods have been available we have had NO repeat failures. These are my FACTS...not Land Rovers facts.....how do you expect official figures of the success of this repair when they are all being done by smaller garages and not under the manafactures warranty?

You continue with the risk of fire senario....EVERY CAR ON THE ROAD HAS A RISK OF FIRE SENARIO.

Youve turned this whole issue into a personal vendetta mainly due to the problems youve had with a second hand Freelander, for god sake give it up and give us some information which people can use instead of telling them to get rid of their vehicles ...short term that is helping no-one.

Time for red wine !!


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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
2 October 2009, 10:42 PM
DONT BUY A FREELANDER
Joined 8 Nov 2008
137 posts

Sorry! But this was the only car that I had ever lost £9500 on!!!!

You tell me the problem is sorted with the Freelander.

But Land Rover are NOT CONFIRMING THIS!!

Land Rover did not help me at all, only wanted to make money out of me, for faults that were inbuilt in the Freelander.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion of Freelander, and I have mine!

I believe this is still a free country!

THE FREELANDER REALLY WAS THE ONLY CAR THAT I HAVE EVER OWNED THAT WAS A LEMON!!

Wendy read all the comments on this website, make your own mind up!



Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
3 October 2009, 0:05 AM
dudkat72
Joined 6 Mar 2006
906 posts

DONT BUY.

Why would Land Rover confirm that they have fixed a problem on a vehicle that they no longer produce.....theyve avoided blaim for years now, do you really think theyre going to hold their hands up now and say " yes weve fixed the hg problem in the Freelander "

The problem in my experience has been sorted IF the job is done correctly.


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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
3 October 2009, 7:19 AM
DONT BUY A FREELANDER
Joined 8 Nov 2008
137 posts

‘’Why would Land Rover confirm that they have fixed a problem on a vehicle that they no longer produce.....theyve avoided blaim for years now, do you really think theyre going to hold their hands up now and say " yes weve fixed the hg problem in the Freelander "
Dudkat

Well every other car manufacturer does, even if the car is out of production, so why should Land Rover be any different!!
Don’t Buy a Freelander.

Dudkat, you say in your experience that the HG problem has been fixed.

Where is the proof!

Land Rover are definitely NOT confirming this!

Unlike Land Rover, I told the person that purchased my Freelander of all the things that had gone wrong with the car and gave them the bills ,which ran into £1,000's, and also warned them that the head gasket could go again, and to keep a watchful eye on the water level.

I certainly am sick to the teeth of people on this website saying that the head gasket problem has been sorted, when Land Rover themselves are not confirming this. Surely if Land Rover had sorted the problem, they would issue a press statement saying so, but no, they have done no such thing! What goes around comes around, just wait and see!

And yes it is a very, very, very unreliable 4x4! This is not something that I have made up, just read the comments on this website and also look on other review websites, definately a 1 out of 10 for reliability! Although it does look nice, and like Wendy my wife really loved it, I just could not afford the running cost, due to the fact that it was always going wrong!


Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
3 October 2009, 8:18 AM
dudkat72
Joined 6 Mar 2006
906 posts

DONT BUY.

I dont have to prove anything to you neither does Land Rover.

I dont come onto this website and lie about the success of this mod, iam telling people the truth and that there is light at the end of the tunnel with other options than just scrapping the car and cutting their losses. If the engine hasnt been badly effected by a previous hg failure then they can be succesfully repaired.....and i will continue to say so until i have seen proof otherwise.





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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
3 October 2009, 7:17 PM
stu
Joined 1 Sep 2008
117 posts

when we bought our 05 reg with low milage on from landrover main dealer ,they told me headgaskets where not a issue anymore from 52 reg onwards as they have put a double layer gasket on as a mod on all built from then on ,,,,but thats water under the bridge ,,,or water over the freelander by the firebrigade lol,,,,when you have the prob with car you gotte decide then to trade it in and cut your losses or try and get it fixed and roll the dice that it will last

Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
3 October 2009, 9:56 PM
DONT BUY A FREELANDER
Joined 8 Nov 2008
137 posts

If Land Rover are NOT confirming what you are saying then you are talking a load of rubbish!

Stop giving people false hope!

The Freelander is a Lemon!

The issues with this 4x4 are not just the head gasket!

Why did BMW sell to Ford why did Ford sell to Tata?

The cars Land Rover build must be Top Quality, Will never go wrong. With no inbuilt faults?!

I go with BMW and Ford, if you have a Freelander, sell quickly before its too late!


Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
4 October 2009, 4:03 AM
dudkat72
Joined 6 Mar 2006
906 posts

DONT BUY.

I knew there was a reason i stopped posting to you.

Just so we all know , can you tell me faults on others cars that have been fixed with a mod and the manafactures have held their hands up to and said " yep weve fixed the problem"


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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
4 October 2009, 8:37 AM
DONT BUY A FREELANDER
Joined 8 Nov 2008
137 posts

Dudkat here are just two, do you want more?

Recalls BMW MINI

All BMW MINIs recalled "due to danger of static electricity causing fires while re-fuelling" (Announced LBC radio news p.m. 3/9/2001). Seems that special paint used to earth the filler neck wears away when filler nozzles are inserted. January 2002 recall to replace the non-switching off CD players which flattened the batteries of early build MINIs. July 2002: 24,000 MINI Ones and MINI Coopers built Nov 2001 to May 2002 recalled to have gearchange cable modified to prevent box sticking in gear. 4-3-2002 822 MINIs recalled because front lower suspension arm mounting bolts may become loose and arm may fall off. Also outer balljoint pins may become loose leading to detachment. Also some tyres may suffer shallow cuts on the inner sidewall. December 2002: All MINIs recalled because handle of parkeing brake can twist slightly, leading it to slip of the ratchet

Problems SORTED!


Recalls by Renault for the Scenic

Apparent recall or TSB to check tightness of road wheel bolts. Recall June 2006 to check rear seatbelt mountings. Apparent TSB July 2006 to replace window mechanisms where the windows come out of the carriers.

Problems SORTED!


Land Rover Freelander

Head gasket blows, no recall ever!

Problem, NO SORTED!


NOT ALL MANUFACTURERS ARE LIKE LAND ROVER!


Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
4 October 2009, 9:33 AM
cartraker
Joined 10 Jul 2007
15 posts

hmmmm... I can hear the sound of splitting hairs coming !!!!!
The ONLY advice regarding Freelanders is SELL or better stil, dont buy one in the first place. Irrespective of whether it will or will not prove to be reliable it just isnt worth the worry and excessive coolant checking which as far as I know is unique to this car. Lifes too short to spend any more time looking under a bonnet than is absolutely necessary. Cars are (should be) designed to be driven, not as a lump of iron to be constantly checked.


Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
4 October 2009, 1:35 PM
-  Edited by Stewart 4 October 2009, 1:46 PM
Stewart
Joined 13 Jun 2009
114 posts

Rob - "Don't Buy a Freelander" - Please keep to the K18 HG issue on this Forum. You and I have PM'd re Legal stuff, but the LR Company IS DEFUNKT !!!
NB You forget, Renault Scenic - HT Leads aswell?????
We are not here to discuss transmissions, static fires, window elect/mech issues - we are DEVOTED to K18 HG - and the VAST
R & D IMPROVEMENTS from the designers, on the HG ISSUE.
Dudkat - please cease to fight this on the Forum, HG Tech friend. We know where we are, aswell as other users.
Des H is a busy man, but I am sure he will support this now, very 'MATURE' Forum on K18 HG Failures ONLY?
Rob. I am very sorry, but please GET OFF THIS FORUM and let us work on the positive results from a SO FAR VERY SUCCESSFUL HG Modification.
Again, the Cape Town MG Car Club has 10 plus very successful MLS Kit replacements, all going VERY well so far. I am on the Forum to share our's and YOUR valuable POSITIVE INPUT.
You want to know something Rob?
It is NEGATIVE input by members like yourself that have PUSHED AWAY VALUABLE Tech INPUT and SUPPORT by the likes of Des Hammill, Telfor, dudkat, Stu and Kaiser in Johannesburg.
ALL THESE and others, have been so positive and helpful on the Forum.
STEWART W - CAPE TOWN will continue helping interests on this Forum.
Even as a friendly Blogg, I wish Kaiser, telfor and Des H would come back with AFFIRMATIVE contribution.
Rob - Land rover Don't Buy - You are not welcome on the Forum any longer. GOOD BUY, Ex LR Owner and 'Sulker', we only talk K18 HG Issues here.
Stewart W - Cape Town.




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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
4 October 2009, 1:42 PM
Stewart
Joined 13 Jun 2009
114 posts

dudkat and stu, you just keep up the positive support, and ignore all this NEGATIVE upheavel.
I have posted to Rob and all - enjoy (further upheaval!)
Stewart - Cape Town

K18 HG Issues ONLY!




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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
4 October 2009, 6:39 PM
dudkat72
Joined 6 Mar 2006
906 posts

DONT BUY.

Land Rover have done hundreds of recals over the years....i strongly suggest that you do your homework , for instance there is one out at the moment for Disco 3 & Range Rover Sport which relates to the brake servo.....they have admitted to this and they are actively replacing parts to fix the issue ......and why would that be ? Well let me tell you ITS BECAUSE ITS DIRECTLY SAFETY RELATED....LIKE THE MINI CATCHING FIRE AND BOTTOM BALL JOINTS DROPPING OFF.

The Freelander itself was subject to about 6 recals all done at the same time back in the early 00's ....

So again ( and this time dont paste a list of safety recals )

If a none safety related issue is highlighted under warranty (ie a technical bulletin) then it will be covered under said warranty , however if the vehicle is outside warranty then the customer normally puts his hand in his pocket....................TOUGH!!


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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
4 October 2009, 7:25 PM
stu
Joined 1 Sep 2008
117 posts

dudkat,i personally and all the other poor souls who have been driving along the road and had there vision blocked by bellowing steam from under the bonnet and through the air vents would defo treat it as a very serious safety issue
maybe that is a way forward to get landrover to recall and repair free of charge head gaskets on the freelander on the basis of safety related recall,there is a ex rover main dealer a couple of miles from me selling the new mgf,they have loads of new cars in there show room when a get a min will pop in and ask what they have done to the engines assuming they still have the k series engine in them.

Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
4 October 2009, 7:34 PM
-  Edited by dudkat72 4 October 2009, 7:38 PM
dudkat72
Joined 6 Mar 2006
906 posts

Stu.

Its doesnt render the vehicle unsafe, you arent going to swerve off the road into oncoming traffic the way you would if a bottom joint fell off or wheel nuts coming undone.

Believe me , if this posed a serious safety issue Vosa would have got involved years ago.


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