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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
30 October 2009, 11:57 PM
-  Edited by DONT BUY A FREELANDER 31 October 2009, 0:42 AM
DONT BUY A FREELANDER
Joined 8 Nov 2008
137 posts

From Wikipeadia (They know everything!!!)

The Freelander, wholly designed with Land Rover owned by the Rover Group, was born after market research in the late 1980s suggested that a market for compact off-roaders was likely to develop. In the early 1990s Rover Group had a very restricted product development budget and looked for a partner to develop the Freelander project, which was codenamed CB40 (after Canley Building 40, where the concept was initially developed). Rover's then-partner Honda declined and chose to develop its own CR-V model, which launched in 1997.
Rover decided to go it alone with the CB40, which meant using parts from a limited parts bin, as it had done with the MGF roadster. Although BMW took over Rover Group in 1994, they did not get heavily involved in the development of the Freelander. The car was launched in 1997. It became Europe's best-selling four-wheel drive model until 2002.[citation needed] The last Freelanders in North America were sold as 2005 models.
[edit]Model variations
[original research?]


2002?2003 Land Rover Freelander SE 4-door (US)
There were a variety of models, based around 5-door estate and 3-door softback (semi-convertible), hardback, and commercial (van-like) versions. In 2004, Land Rover introduced an improved and upgraded version of the Mark I; changes included a new interior and major external revisions, including a new face and rear.
The 3-door model was available in E, S, SE, Sport and Sport Premium trim and the 5-door model in available in E, S, SE, HSE, Sport and Sport Premium trim.
[edit]Engines
Engine choices include:[3]
1.8 litre I4 Rover K-Series petrol (1997-2006), badged as '1.8i' (Not sold in North America)
2.0 litre I4 Rover L-series diesel (1997-2001), badged as 'Di'
2.0 litre I4 BMW M47 diesel (2001-2006), badged as 'TD4'
2.5 litre V6 Rover KV6 Engine petrol (2001-2006), badged as 'V6'
Manual gearboxes dominated the early models, but automatic Tiptronic-style gearboxes became increasingly popular and were standard on the V6.
Freelander K-series engines have been known to drop the cylinder liners into the block. Because the liners are steel and the block is alloy, the liners being harder, work their way into the block. This is due to the engine block and cylinder head being composed of different materials that expand at different rates with heat generated during running of the vehicle. This can cause the head gasket to fail. The head gasket/cylinder liner design fault has not been classified as a recall.
[edit]Marketing
While the first generation Freelander was considered quite capable off-road, earning its credentials in the Camel Trophy and Land Rover G4 Challenge, it represented a compromise. It did not have a low range gear selection, nor a locking differential, as found on larger Land Rover models. This meant that in comparison to its Land Rover stable mates, it had relatively poor off-road performance, although its sophisticated traction control system meant that on some terrain, such as wet grass or ice, it could easily embarrass a 'proper' 4x4 such as the Discovery.
The first generation was, however, the first Land Rover to feature hill descent control. This system, plus the capable off road Traction Control system used the ABS to control individual brakes and keep driving under control in offroad situations.
Lack of the MG Rover K18 and KV6 engines after the death of the MG Rover lead Land Rover to discontinue the model after 2006 in the U.S. and Canada.
[edit]Second generation

Technology is how you apply it!!

Just wished that Land Rover had applied it to the Freelander 1 1.8 petrol.

Stewart (nice pictures) stop drink the wine, it fuddles your mind!!!

Dudkat, stop giving people false hope, the Freelander 1, 1.8 is an all time LEMON!!!

You say that the Freelander 1, 1.8 petrol engine has been sorted by Land Rover. TOTAL CRAP!! YOU KNOW NOTHING!!

So the engine liners could drop causing head gasket failure, and Land Rover has not recalled every Freelander 1, 1.8 petrol? If this happened with Ford or VW or Volvo or Renault they would have recalled all the cars, there is nothing on Wikipeadia on dropping engine liners on their cars.

If you unfortunately own a 1.8 petrol Freelander 1, ring any Trade Dealer to see what it is worth. You will be very very disappointed. If you are thinking of buying a Freelander 1, even if it is at a very, very low price! Don't bother, this car will let you down, this car will cost you lots of money, especially if the head gasket fails, and it could happen. My advice is buy a Honda from a Honda dealer, they will treat you very well!!!!

Hey Dudkat and Stewart you can change what Wikipeadia are saying about the Freelander 1. Its only a matter of time before they say it was an ALL TIME LEMON!!!!!


Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
31 October 2009, 0:49 AM
DONT BUY A FREELANDER
Joined 8 Nov 2008
137 posts

so two headgaskets gone, bet this was the first car you ever owned that you had to replace two headgaskets. Land Rover why are you not recalling all these 4x4's!!!!!!!

Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
2 November 2009, 9:25 AM
Mitch
Joined 10 Sep 2008
17 posts

HELP. I had the head gasket replaced in my 2004 Landrover and Landrover paid half the costs - that was over a year ago. I had no problems and have moved to Switzerland now (with the car) suddendly the car is dead - battery works etc but the car just makes a clunk on turning the key and then nothing. Its gone to a local garage - who tell me its the HEAD GASKET !!! AGAIN???? HELP. I paid half of the costs to replace this thing already and LandRover admitted the problem. What can I do now that I love in Switzerland - does anyone know??? Thank you

Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
2 November 2009, 10:05 AM
Mitch
Joined 10 Sep 2008
17 posts

HELP!!!! I have a 2004 1.8 petrol LandRover which had a head gasket failure in Sep 2008 adnd was reparired with 50% costs paid by LandRover main dealership due to the known problem. I then moved to Switzerland and now the same issue has occured - its currently at a local garage to be reviewed and they want to take the engine apart etc. (Im also just on the phone on hold to Landrover UK waiting for advice) As the `repair`is outside the warrenty landrover are saying they cant do anything and also Switzerland is outside their jurisdiction??!! so they wont be able to help. I cant obvioulsy drive it home to repair it. ANY ADVICE?? Landrover just told me that my options are only to take it to a franchise dealership and they could `review the invoice`that they probably would not contribute 50% again - and only contribute towards parts. PLEASE HELP. The car is valued here at 8,000 CHF which is £5000 - my only option if I cant get contribution is to scrap it here - noone needs a left hand drive !!!

Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
3 November 2009, 9:29 PM
DONT BUY A FREELANDER
Joined 8 Nov 2008
137 posts

Hi Mitch

Sorry to hear of your troubles, if you had your headgasket repaired by Land Rover then they probably would have charged you an arm and a leg to do the repair. If its only the headgasket that has gone, then phone around in Switzerland to find a good jobbing garage, that should charge you nowhere near what Land Rover charge.

Dudkat and Stewart please take note. Dudkat keeps harping on that the headgasket problem has been sorted, but obviously NOT. If Mitch's repair was done in 2008, then Land Rover would have used the new modifications.

Surely a headgasket repair should last longer than this!

Mitch, I would go back to the Land Rover garage that did the repair, they obviously did not do it correctly. I can't believe the way that they are treating you.




Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
4 November 2009, 10:06 AM
Mitch
Joined 10 Sep 2008
17 posts

Thank you . I know - its a nightmare. I posted here last year in September when I had the same issue and sent the link to LandRover. I think it helped in them admitting the fault. My car was fixed at Guy Salmon in Stockport UK on the 12th September 2008 and the warranty ran for a year. So I am just over this period. The quote I have received from a local garage is 2,200GBP. I already paid 1,400GBP to Guy Salmon (LandRover HQ paid the other 1,400GBP with their oh so generous 50% contribution) I sent the quote I have received to Guy Salmon Stockport and this is their response......
Hi,
Looking at the quote, it seems to me like they have priced everything to be done without actually investigating the exact cause. Once the head gasket has been replaced, it is unlikely that a full overhaul would be needed a second time. Unfortunately, warranty is strict in terms of the time period offered and it was 12th September 2008 that the repair was done. Therefore, any parts fitted are now out of warranty. In terms of goodwill, again Land Rover has a policy of a one off contribution only, which you received against the repair last year. I have checked with our sales department, and the value of the car in full working order is only approximately £3000. I am afraid it is whether you think it is an economical repair to have done. Sorry, I cannot be of any further assistance in the matter.Regards Helen.....
So thats that then!!! Unfortunately I cant take the car back as its been towed to a garage in Liestal, Basel and just for them checking the car and towing my bill is already at 600CHF (400GBP) Im now totally stuck as to what to do with the car.

Value of car as valued by local garage in Basel: 8400 CHF
Cost of repairs: 3700 CHF

Minus the following:

• Windscreen repair (big crack)
• MKA Swiss evaluation (after 12 months I need to change to swiss plates and the car gets assesed to see if it meets Swiss regulations
• License plates (After 12 months here you have to change them over)
• Amendment of lights to left hand drive (the refit the lights etc)

I have no idea what the above additional costs add up to.

I have no insurance right now on the car as it ran out while the car was out of action (my UK one)

The choices are:

1. Fix car with local dealer and pay the 3700 CHF, get all the amendments made to the car, pay for new plates etc, get insurance etc and drive it till it dies (asking for a warranty on current work)
2. As above but drive straight to UK (with or without insurance??) reimport to UK and sell there hoping to get the equivalent 3700 CHF back
3. Sell car for parts here and forget about it
4. Scarp it

It all seems such a waste its a lovely green 1.8 Petrol Freelander in mint condition other than this (major) issue

I feel like number 1 is the best option but don’t know if im just being stupid as I love(d) my shi**y car.

Any advice would be great and sorry for the long rambling post

Michelle


Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
4 November 2009, 5:56 PM
-  Edited by DONT BUY A FREELANDER 4 November 2009, 6:03 PM
DONT BUY A FREELANDER
Joined 8 Nov 2008
137 posts

Hi Mitch

My heart goes out to you, as I was in the same position as you. Wife loved the car, I just could not afford the repair bills, which were horrendous.

With my Freelander I put it on Ebay and sold to the highest bidder, I opened a bottle of champagne the day I got shot of it. The only car I have ever owned that I had a head gasket go - mine was like yours it blew 2 head gaskets.

If you have not read this forum from the start then this is what went wrong with mine:

Blew head gasket twice

Transfer box failed

CV joint in driveshaft failed

Electric window controller, caught fire

Top engine mounting broke

Clutch went

and so on and so on, think mine was made on a Monday!

Might be worth contacting the Swiss Trading Standards, they might be able to help you?

If you do go for option A, make sure you also take out a aftermarket Car Warranty from one of the reputable warrantee companies, so if the headgasket goes again - and there is a good chance that it will - then you will be covered.

Hope everything goes well for you in the end.



Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
4 November 2009, 7:08 PM
dudkat72
Joined 6 Mar 2006
906 posts

>-----Previous Message-----
>From: DONT BUY A FREELANDER
>Posted: Wednesday, 04 November 2009
>
>Hi Mitch

My heart goes out to you, as I was in the same position as you. Wife loved the car, I just could not afford the repair bills, which were horrendous.

With my Freelander I put it on Ebay and sold to the highest bidder, I opened a bottle of champagne the day I got shot of it. The only car I have ever owned that I had a head gasket go - mine was like yours it blew 2 head gaskets.

If you have not read this forum from the start then this is what went wrong with mine:

Blew head gasket twice

Transfer box failed

CV joint in driveshaft failed

Electric window controller, caught fire

Top engine mounting broke

Clutch went

and so on and so on, think mine was made on a Monday!

Might be worth contacting the Swiss Trading Standards, they might be able to help you?

If you do go for option A, make sure you also take out a aftermarket Car Warranty from one of the reputable warrantee companies, so if the headgasket goes again - and there is a good chance that it will - then you will be covered.

Hope everything goes well for you in the end.

Well done you wrote that without any reference to Stewart or Myself..

See, if you really concentrate and apply yourself you can manage a half decent post.


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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
4 November 2009, 7:22 PM
steleeuk
Joined 9 Jul 2008
44 posts

The message off Mitch looks like a duff message ( refering to * who wants a left hand drive*) i think it was probably typed by "dont buy a freelander"

Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
4 November 2009, 7:24 PM
DONT BUY A FREELANDER
Joined 8 Nov 2008
137 posts

The only clown is you!!!!

No reported headgasket failures with the new multilayered gasket. LOL!!!

Well looks like your theory was wrong!! LOL!!

Stop giving people false hope on the 1.8 Freelander, it an all time LEMON!!!

LOL!!! LOL!!!


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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
4 November 2009, 7:25 PM
steleeuk
Joined 9 Jul 2008
44 posts

over 18 months since i had my updated h/g and still goin strong :)

Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
4 November 2009, 7:30 PM
-  Edited by DONT BUY A FREELANDER 4 November 2009, 7:35 PM
DONT BUY A FREELANDER
Joined 8 Nov 2008
137 posts

Yes, I have probably put all the bad comments on this website. LOL!!!

Why not ring the Land Rover dealer that Mitch is referring to.

Have Land Rover sorted the Freelander headgasket problem??? NO

Please read Mitch's story again, does not sound made up to me!



Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
4 November 2009, 7:31 PM
DONT BUY A FREELANDER
Joined 8 Nov 2008
137 posts

Really pleased that you have not had a problem.

Unfortunately Mitch has!!!

So many Freelanders with so many blown head gaskets!!


Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
4 November 2009, 7:33 PM
steleeuk
Joined 9 Jul 2008
44 posts

sounds made up to me so there ya go

like i said,over 18 months of trouble free motoring since my h/g replaced..ob the problem should not happen in the 1st place but it has and it aint gunna change BUT the replacement worked for me


Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
4 November 2009, 9:25 PM
dudkat72
Joined 6 Mar 2006
906 posts

Funnily i thought the post by Mitch was made up aswell seeing as theres been weeks of inactivity and all of a sudden someone posts something related to repeat failure which just happens to be Dont buys entire argument.......Anyone smell a fish...because i do ? BUMP SPRINGS TO MIND!!

Anyhoo.... the forum as been ruined by one person, unfortunately this has tainted my whole reason for being here AND to be honest i dont really care about this anymore.

Mitch...if that is your real name....tough luck you will only get one goodwill claim.....take Dont Buys advise...he knows best. If Mitch isnt your real name.....get a life you know who you are!!


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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
4 November 2009, 10:06 PM
Stewart
Joined 13 Jun 2009
114 posts

Mr Robert - "Don't Buy Freelander" - QUOTE........

....."Lack of the MG Rover K18 and KV6 engines after the death of the MG Rover lead Land Rover to discontinue the model after 2006 in the U.S. and Canada.
[edit]Second generation

Technology is how you apply it!!

Just wished that Land Rover had applied it to the Freelander 1 1.8 petrol.

Stewart (nice pictures) stop drink the wine, it fuddles your mind!!!

Dudkat, stop giving people false hope, the Freelander 1, 1.8 is an all time LEMON!!!

You say that the Freelander 1, 1.8 petrol engine has been sorted by Land Rover. TOTAL CRAP!! YOU KNOW NOTHING!!

So the engine liners could drop causing head gasket failure......."

................ ( ???????????????#@*&%)&& to you Rob. SCWxx)

I don't miss a Beat fellow Freebie 'K18 killer' ....... my Labrador is 'charged....' .... wonder if you have big ears ......... ??

Reminder....... 'Red Wine' - was 'an expression' of NORMAL successful, human behaviour, in REACTION to 'skullduggery'..... this to enjoy a far more enjoyable life than reading your destructive LR Freebie excrement!!

You must go thru '20 Kgs of Loo paper' every day in your Life ?? Gr8 for Tesco's!!

I have never ever discussed a technical problem with an individual, 'SO'
determined to destroy a Motor Brand as you, Robert !

I do know the secret, Nil comment, whatsoever. But!!!!! You deserve a qualified and frank reply!

As I have posted in past submissions, 'Get a Technical Qualification, and a good 4 or 5 years' practical behind you.'

Until then, shut your trap 'Pea Brain'!

You are no longer driving, and suffering 'Freebie Trauma' as you have described! So give it a break.

I have embarassed myself by 'stooping' to your level on the Forum?

I Should have followed my 'cold' ignorance feeling???

But, PB's like you deserve the reply, with the resultant negative comment!

A BRILLIANTLY SUCCESSFUL,and WORKING 'K18' so far,
IS MY ''RED WINE", Robert!

I look forward to the trip!

I, and many others support DUDKAT to the hilt, with his Technical Forum submissions - and,
I PERSONALLY, TAKE OFFENCE TO A 'PEA BRAIN' (like yourself Robert!), ridiculing and lowering a personality like DUDKAT, as YOU do, with a smile on your face! (and yellow wine??)

PLEASE ....... go and enjoy your 'Shopping Trolley Car' and, look after your Family.
Your Wife and your Children are more important than a 'K18 Petrol Engined Motor Car' ?????????????

Good Bye PB xx

The Pik is my life - Clocks!
Wotch further submissions for piks of this 'Late 1700 Dutch Clock' Movement overhaul. You have seen it before!

The Secret is, ..... do it thoroughly, and correctly ... 1st time ?? !!
This movement was last overhauled in the mid 1900's by the appointed Clockmaker of the Dutch Royal Family.
I have the pleasure of servicing the Masterpiece in Cape Town.

Stewart W - CT





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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
4 November 2009, 10:11 PM
DONT BUY A FREELANDER
Joined 8 Nov 2008
137 posts

You have to laugh at these idoits on this Forum!!! Someone posts a forum that they don't agree with and they then say its all been made up!!! LOL!

Headgasket failure still happening on the Freelander 1.8 petrol.

Please, please stop giving people false hope on this LEMON.

Who's got egg on his face now.

No Freelander headgaskets failed with the new modifications, what a lot of rubbish!!!

Watch out there are idiots about!!!



Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
4 November 2009, 10:21 PM
DONT BUY A FREELANDER
Joined 8 Nov 2008
137 posts

Who's Robert?

Sorry, but it really does make my blood boil when people on this forum are telling other people that the 1.8 Freelander engine now does not suffer from headgasket problems.

If Land Rover could not sort the problem out, how the heck can you or anyone else give advice on how to sort it out!!

There are far too many post on the internet with people with 1.8 Freelander headgasket failures and mechanical nightmares to suggest otherwise!!



Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
4 November 2009, 11:04 PM
Stewart
Joined 13 Jun 2009
114 posts

QUOTE ....... Who's Robert ???????? .... unquote

Robert is the 'Landrover Freelander Headgasket Failure, 'negative' idiot!

Robert, is the VERY unhappy Ex Freelander owner whose Wife 'really wanted one' !

After many failures (Questionable driving habits and maybe attitudes (soory Mrs R)...) and, hundreds of Pounds replacement and repairs, Robert eventually convinced his sweet wife, that his wallet does not have what Land Rover GB fancied, in their after market Coffers!

Robert is normal in his daily use of 'a car'.

He cannot be faulted with his daily lifestyle - just like Mr and Mrs Bloggs?

Mr and Mrs Bloggs do not drink Red Wine (becos it distorts the mind), only Apple Juice, which (Crocks the 'available' brain)!

One thing Mr Bloggs cannot stand is, that LR gets away with not recognising a problem.

Mr Bloggs 'BLOGS' all the LR Forums he can find online to 'Blog' the issue - because he did not get a recognition and, his money refunded for all the issues he had with a Blogged LR Freebie?????

It is such frustration really, and I share with Mrs (and maybe Mr?) Bloggs!

There is a time in life, when enough is enough?

Robert ....... we still admire you ...... even if it is enough?

Give it a break now. Get a life ?

Make up with DUDKAT (dought it, now??) and get involved with a repair.
See how it is done, and what goes into it.

Life, is more than an office desk - make ammends, get out and see how LIFE HAPPENS ??

This is how that Dutch Clock looks 'stripped naked' - imagine a K18 Petrol Engine. I am sure DUDKAT would have arranged for you ?




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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
4 November 2009, 11:27 PM
Stewart
Joined 13 Jun 2009
114 posts

Dear Forum Members,

I apologise for my despicable reactions to Mr and Mrs 'Robert - Don't Buy Land Rover Freelander' postings.

I will accomodate and Mr and Mrs R in Cape Town for a week, with K18 Transport (somebody else's) and, subject them to a full 2 day K18 overhaul with my MG Tech.

Then Robert has to give a FULL K18 Report on his return from the best week of his life!

Free Red and Yellow Wine, with added Apple Juice for encouragement?

Regards,

Stewart W - Cape Town.

Eventually, the Clock. A Tall Case Grandfather - 8 Ft Tall plus Eagle ETC!!
Pik is the Complete Movement and Dial - 14 x Pieces of Music on the Drum!!

Stewart W - Cape Town.




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