Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
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Im real and my friends call me Mitch. My contact number is 0041796841196 - you can even call it - it works and Ill answer!!! My comment on `left hand drive`was obvioulsy supposed to be `right hand drive`a simple mistake. Im living in Europe and everyone (if you didnt already know) had left handed vehicles. Mine is right handed and noone here wants to purchase a right hand drive - so Im stuck with the problem - it wont even sell to a 2nd hand dealer as it will cost them too much to convert and they dont want to do the headgasket work too - its too expensive. I apologise for my left/right handed error. It was supposed to have read - noone wants a right hand drive in Switzerland. The email I received from LandRover was from: [Log in to view email] She is real too - I spoke to her! Its all real and I think youd have to be a pretty sad individual to make this stuff up - I can think of a million better pranks to play on the internet. This is unfortunately a real issue and my only current option is to get the work done and lay out the 3,700 CHF so I can at least drive the thing, Landrover should be disgusted with their attitude and their knowledge of this - cant we go to watchdog or something ? Its just a sham I absolutely love that car and I dont want to get rid of it - but whats the point in keeping something that keeps going wrong. This is my quote for the work - yes its real too. If you call me Ill even send you the email from the garage....... (its german and ive translated the main parts) Ersatzteile Zylinderkopfdichtung (Cylinder Head Gasket) 1 179.00 Motorenöl (Motor oil) 4.5 60.75 7.6% MwSt. 117.15 FZ von Arlesheim in Werkstätte überführen (towing to garage) 2.0 278.00 Ersatzteile 1'658.90
Im not `joining forces`with anyone on anyones argument. Im sure some gaskets work and maybe others dont. I posted the email I got from the garage yesterday from Guy Salmon Stockport. I live in Switzerland now and seems that I dont have many `rights`with the UK to claim etc. Im literally 7 weeks out of the warranty with the last head gasket and last time round I was just our of the new cars 3 year warranty . so I guess Im just unlucky Im not taking sides - and I do love my car. I just wanted to let you know what my personal situation is and to ask for advice - because I didnt know what the best thing to do was and thought maybe this forum could help me Thanks
hope you get sorted soon tho ! ps i wouldnt go round putting your phone number on the net,see if you can edit it out .
Contact Landrover in UK and explain what has happened, what are they going to help you as the problem shouldn't arise again after 13 months. if they dont help you tell them that you will not buy landrover again and send copies of everything to honest john out of the daily telegraph in the UK, he will publish your problem in the sunday paper and hopefully disgrace them into helping you. I would repair the car in the UK but not in switzerland as it would probably struggle to pass all the emission tests etc. As a damage limitation exercise I would try and get as much money back as I could, ask the dealer where it is at the minute what he would give you for it as it stands, you could also put it on ebay in switzerland you may get a good price from someone who knows about cars. Do the above and walk away, cut your losses and get a left hand drive where you are, it is safer.,,,,regards stu
Would you care to state where i have said that these engines dont suffer anymore from hg failure anymore? You wont be able to because i have never said that... i have always said that IF these engines are to be repaired then they need to meet the correct criteria...if they do and all of the correct modified parts are used then there is no reason why they cant be sucessfully repaired and in 2.5 years have had NO repeat failures. You have no idea that Mitchs repaired was carried out correctly...you have no idea that there wasnt an underlying fault left undiagnosed...you have no idea that that the Tech who carried out the repair may have known as much as you...which, incidently you could write on a postage stamp. Ive given this forum years of good service...if you think that a few ill informed posting from yourself will make me post anything different then you are very mistaken.
If i have misjudged your posting then i apologise. Legality isnt my forte so iam unable to advise you on that however, with regards to your repair Land Rover only ever make one goodwill contribution...and that is dependent on the circumstances ie service history etc etc ...normally they will contribute aslong as the vehicle is under 40 months old. The other is to sell it as seen without the hg being fixed and lose more money.... Or thirdly spend 2 years of your life preparing a pointless website telling us all about how the vehicle as wrecked your life and ruined your marriage , spend more money on trying to take them to court and setting a " TASK FORCE " up which is about as much use as breasts on a nun. Land Rover have and will continue to evade any court action over this...the horse as well and truly bolted. I would love to tell you that there is light at the end of the tunnel but there isnt...you either have to accept it and do what you think is best OR let it ruin your life and spend years trying to get justice. By the way...i agree with the previous post and try and delete your telephone number.
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Apology for what ?
Yeh youre right you should be able to think that but mistakes are made and things are left unchecked......price doesnt come into it.
Blimey, so many if's!! Are you sure you know what your talking about! First of all your telling me that Mitch was not a genuine contributor. Now your sort of telling me that there could be a problem, but definately not if the repair was carried out correctly, well Mitch did have her head gasket repaired by a Land Rover agent. If they can't do the job properly, who can. As regards my knowledge on the matter, I certainly have more than a postage stamp full! Let just agree to disagree. Watch out there are prats about who tell us that the Freelander does not have a head gasket problem if repaired correctly. LOL!! LOL!! LOL!! LOL!! The cars a LEMON, I know, I had one!!!! If you want to loose a lot of money, buy a Freelander!
I have only met a few people in my life like Dudkat - thank god! He obviously lives in a different world to me. His world: Freelanders head gaskets don't blow (if the repair is done correctly), Land Rover top of the reliability surveys! We all know Land Rover make very very unreliable cars, just check the reliability tables on the internet. And of course the Freelander is probably the worst 4x4 ever made, that suffered so, so many head gasket failures. The head gasket problem has definately not been sorted. Anyway his comments are just water of a ducks back to me!! Keep on throwing the insults Dudkat, I can take them!! Hopefully Dudkat will cut out the bad language.
Mitch had to list her phone number etc. Because certain idiots on this forum thought it was all made up. Watch out the are idiots about!!!
''We were very early stages with the MLS headgasket , back then the early signs looked very good and have stayed that way also which is promising. We still have not had any repeat failures as yet bearing in mind its nearly 2 1/2 yrs ago since the first were fitted.'' Watch out there is a prat about saying the Freelanders he has repaired have had no repeat failures in nearly 2.5 years. Why not let Land Rover know, how you did it! They don't seem to be as good as you in the head gasket repair department! I personally DON'T BELIEVE YOU!! Too many people on this website with too many head gaskets blown. Now we have Mitch's headgasket problem, repaired by Land Rover and now failed again!
''We were very early stages with the MLS headgasket , back then the early signs looked very good and have stayed that way also which is promising. We still have not had any repeat failures as yet bearing in mind its nearly 2 1/2 yrs ago since the first were fitted. Absolutely....so where did i say that they dont fail anymore ?....read my words..If you look at what ive wrote i have said we have not had any repeat failures AS YET, which means that in the early stages we were still unsure and until such times i see a failed MLS headgasket which i have been involved in i will continue to write and advise to that effect. You are doing nothing for the people on this forum...nothing at all, your ill advise conjecture leaves people confused and not knowing which way to turn with this problem...if a new member came on here now they would be stuffed, which makes me personally very very angry. They wont get help from Land Rover and if this continues they will no longer be getting any help or advice from me.
You wrote....... they need to put a line under there differences with dont buy a freelander ,,and stick to giving great technical info May i ask how that great info can now be achieved when other members are constantly disagreeing with that info ? I have seen the possitive aspects of the MLS headgskets for ages but the engine must be not to badly damaged from the previous failure. How many of you out there have ever had one of these engines apart, how many of you have spent ours putting these engines back together? Until you have had one apart , have repaired it to spec using all of the correct parts and then have seen a failure of the new MLS gasket with your own eyes no-one can come on here and say the repair isnt working. That is the reason why i always suspect the original repair wasnt done correctly or something was left undiagnosed when there is a repeat failure.
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Edited by steleeuk 5 November 2009, 6:11 PM
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