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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
17 December 2005, 11:59 PM
Jon
Joined 6 May 2005
387 posts

Don't buy!

The Freelander 1.8 & V6 have a 100% (yes, one hundred percent) failure rate. When they fail will depend on usage but they will fail.

Just read this forum from start to finish & remember these are just the owners that have found it!


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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
18 December 2005, 1:31 AM
rob
Joined 18 Dec 2005
1 posts

Hi
Did you keep it with an up to date service record to get that fixed? did it still have to be in its warranty period?

Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
18 December 2005, 5:35 AM
Nick
Joined 17 Dec 2005
3 posts

Jon and what about 2.0 Diesel Engine or TD4?

Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
18 December 2005, 7:48 PM
Scott
Joined 16 Oct 2005
35 posts

Hello mike99. I have not yet seen one of these engines blow up so to speak but there is a danger of it failing at any time. If the car has not overheated then you may have caught the problem in time, if there is one. The garage should have carried out a cooling system pressure test, a chemical block test and checked the thermostat for operation. This should pick out any problems. When you say you can smell the engine, what sort of smell are you talking about? One of the common faults with these vehicles is that the heater matrix leaks. This would cause a smell of antifreeze to appear. Any further questions, just ask.

Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
19 December 2005, 9:29 AM
Jon
Joined 6 May 2005
387 posts

Hi Nick

We don't seem to have had any reports of problems with the 2.0 diesel but even some new TD4's seem to have problems. This is usually indicated by an excessive amount of smoke from the exhaust & a failure to pull. We even have a video of a new TD4 Freelander doing just that.

As we have tended to concentrated on the petrol version we are as yet unable to determine the exact nature of the TD4 problem However, despite what LR might tell you, you can be assured that LR are aware of it


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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
19 December 2005, 10:44 AM
Nick
Joined 17 Dec 2005
3 posts

Thanks Jonand if you have some freelander videos can u send tham to me?(maybe you have freelander off-raod videos) here is my e-mail [Log in to view email]

Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
20 December 2005, 3:30 PM
Sipieman
Joined 13 Dec 2005
6 posts

Hi Scott, my 2002 Freelander V6 looks like it blew the head gasket. LR Canada has offered 25% towards the repair. Do you know if there is a service bulletin for 2.5L V6, equivelent to Service Bulliten 0036 for the 1.8L where the piston liners drop ??

Thanks in advance

Rod


Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
21 December 2005, 4:57 PM
mhodasi
Joined 21 Dec 2005
2 posts

im lost of words are u guys saying the freelander is no good car?

Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
22 December 2005, 9:08 AM
Ron
Joined 20 Sep 2005
24 posts

I think the Freelander was a brilliant car in the time I had it. It's just a shame about the awful petrol engines. If it had any other engine in it I would still have mine today but I cannot live with the uncertainty of knowing that the engine could and would fail again in a relatively short period of time.

Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
22 December 2005, 5:25 PM
mhodasi
Joined 21 Dec 2005
2 posts

thanks ron for your advice i just bought a freelander diesel but im just scared off owning one i would be grateful to know what i should watch out on my car to get it rectified before i break down in tears, so i will be grateful to know what are the major problems so that i get them rectified and in a record time before i find myself in the hospital suffering from heart failure

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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
22 December 2005, 6:52 PM
Sean
Joined 22 Dec 2005
1 posts

I wish this forum could be published in every newspaper!! So sad that everyone that join, already had to suffer the HGF. Well my 2000 1.8 Freelander received a new engine (with previous owner) at 35000km and about 6 weeks ago, the headgasket blew again with 91200km on clock. No warning, air just start bubbling in the radiator water reservoir and keep on losing the water. Before that, I also notice that when start up in the morning, the vehicle shakes for 5 seconds and then it idle normal. LR first told me that it can be air in the radiator hoses and I took it to a radiator repair specialist who told me that the headgasket had failed. The head was send away, found OK and only the gasket with a list of small parts was needed to replaced. Total cost R8850-00. The customers technician at LR was very helpfull, but didn't told me about the HGF problem and that I must try claiming from LR (ok, his working for them). He did mention that he don't understand why the modification to the thermostate was not done when the engine was replaced. "Luckily" I was covered by a private extended warranty which I took out when vehicle was bought. It was fixed in a weeks time and I got it back - ONLY PAID R800-00 excess. All work was done by LR. The LR technician promissed me on several times that the HGF would not happen again. I now see that the new mod to thermostate & hosing was included in the claim that they send to my vehicle warranty company - how sleezy I find it now that I have read this forum. I'm taking it up with LR South Africa early in the new year. I feel they must refund my excess, pay back the amount claimed from my vehicle warranty company and give me a written guarentee that the HG will not fail again which I will then sell with the Freelander, as I don't trust them.

Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
22 December 2005, 9:37 PM
Steve
Joined 22 Dec 2005
2 posts

Hi! We need your help. We have a year 2000, V6 which has just had a major engine failure (51,000 miles). The car was purchased as an approved used vehicle from Rossleigh Land Rover (Milton Keynes) May 2004, with the Approved Warranty expiring May 2005 – We wanted a rugged, British car! The vehicle is now with us in Cyprus.

It had coolant leak problems, overheating in the summer and a regular need for coolant top ups. This was diagnosed as stemming from a leaking heater matrix (not uncommon it seems), which was duly replaced. However, coolant has continued “disappearing” from the header tank since. Then on Wednesday, 21 December we had a flashing oil pressure light, followed after a short stop to check oil level and successful restart without any warning lights, to a full on warning light and a need to stop instantly. The local LR dealer recovered the vehicle and seemed rather amused by its demise – no engine compression and empty header tank has been confirmed, so suspected head gasket failure and major overheating, most likely resulting in a written off engine it seems. I gather from reading through many saddening messages on the discussion group, that it’s not exactly an uncommon occurrence and we are looking at a minimum £6,000 for a replacement engine, plus labour. Plus, we can expect much the same result somewhere in the near future with a replacement unit as no redesign/recall is imminent despite the obvious trend. So, I agree with the general forum’s consensus, get shot ASAP once the vehicle is back on the road (assuming it’s economically viable to even consider repair). Therefore, before we proceed any further into a spiral of despair, can anyone please advise an initial course of action likely to result in LR’s recognition and assistance with recovery of some costs, ie. do we first need to gain support from the original point of sale LR dealer (we will be contacting them anyway of course, but is support vital?), or can someone advise the person to contact within LR HQ that might be expecting another reported failure? Your help would be much appreciated having owned an impeccable Audi previously (why did we sell it?).

Thanks in advance.


Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
23 December 2005, 11:16 AM
Trevor
Joined 23 Dec 2005
6 posts

Yep - add me to the list. Head gasket went on Wednesday on our 01 Freelander (60k miles). We took it to an independent who said "What! 60k miles on one engine - you've done well".
He also told me to do a search on the net for "Freelander K series engine problems" & I found this forum. We'd never heard of the problem before, probably because, like thousands of others, we aren't petrol-heads & don't read motor mags.

My wife has given the main dealer (who we bought the car from less than 2 years ago) a piece of her mind - and, believe me, she can be a fierce woman! They are taking the matter up with LR. Watch this space.

What really p*sses me off, after reading this forum, is that main dealers are still selling these cars and Trading Standards, or anyone else in authority, are doing FA about it.

Trevor


Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
23 December 2005, 11:37 AM
howard
Joined 23 Dec 2005
1 posts

I have a Y reg bought with 18K on the clock in December 04.

At 30K I have just had a new cylinder head... and I have suffered with a sticky reverse and a rear window that decided to drop down on the motorway, amongst other problems.

The good news so far is that the extended warranty has been honoured without argument, covering the head and hydraulics. The local dealer, Guy Salmon in Sheffield, have been positively helpful. I bought from their branch in Wakefield.

The rear window was said by the Chesterfield dealer to need 'reprograming', although the breakdown man said that the switch associated with the removable roof would be to blame. This was not covered by the warranty.

Yes, I have just renewed the warranty....


Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
23 December 2005, 5:00 PM
Steve
Joined 22 Dec 2005
2 posts

Trevor,

Yes, it’s a nightmare – Hopefully you have warranty cover still? We have been quoted £7.9k for a new V6 engine, £3.5k for a 1.8 (LR UK price apparently, so plus shipping and fitting) and for this princely sum LR will include 12 months’ engine warranty! So, the new V6 repair route would be more than a ‘working’ year 2000 V6 is worth at UK prices. Little, to no chance of LR contribution above 20% with our car out of warranty, on its second owner and now in a ‘foreign’ country despite full service history (presumably, LR don’t think you should sell your car, or take it too far from your home dealer). However, the LR agent here will assist with finding a ‘used (?)’ V6 engine and take the vehicle in part exchange (on a new vehicle of course), which may help. We’ll get a diesel engine next time.

Hence, can anyone out there please recommend a good source of used/reconditioned LR V6 engines in the UK as we may take the option to ship one out to Cyprus ourselves depending on cost?

Anyway, Merry Christmas to one and all, especially to Trevor's fierce wife! Hope LR helps us/you all out!



Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
24 December 2005, 1:04 PM
Trevor
Joined 23 Dec 2005
6 posts

Hello Steve

Try http://www.famousfour.co.uk

These people are fantastic. They sell LR parts all over the world via mail order & the net. They also have a workshop repairing Land Rovers, but are independent, so tell you exactly how it is.

Luckily they are local to me. They recovered my car at night, sat me down with a strong cup of tea & broke the news to me gently and gave me a vehicle to get around over Christmas (at considerable inconvienience to them). These guys actually care about their customers.

No. I'm afraid my car is out of warranty but my wife is drawing up battle plans - LR be warned!

Merry Christmas


Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
25 December 2005, 11:02 AM
stelioskal
Joined 11 Dec 2005
3 posts

Hi all. I live in Greece and I own a FR since 2000. My car had already one HGF at 53000 km. I recently discovered this forum and since then I have done a little research on it.
What I want to ask, especially LR mechanics - Scott and Jon I think- is this: I have the new head gasket installed but not the new thermostat. If I install the new thermostat AND the new water tank AND use only organic coolant liquids in the coolant circuit AND have all hoses replaced every 3 years (when the coolant must be replaced) will I still have chances of suffering a HGF? Should I also change HG every 3-4 years? The cost of replacing HG is about 600 Euros (£400) so maybe is a solution. What about the latest model? Does it also suffer HGF? I have not read many messages for models after 2003, when the new thermostat released. I hope that these thoughts may lead to a viable solution to the problem because it is not easy for the owners to accept the enormous depreciation of their vehicles

Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
26 December 2005, 7:38 PM
stelioskal
Joined 11 Dec 2005
3 posts

Maybe the "solution" is a modification in the coolant tank to install a coolant level sensor...

Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
27 December 2005, 8:32 AM
SCOOBYDOO
Joined 13 Dec 2005
3 posts

The best solution is for L`rover (buy British) ,my arse to fix these problems and to sell more vehicles in the future,otherwise people will opt for Japanese!!!!!

Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
27 December 2005, 2:58 PM
chris
Joined 27 Dec 2005
25 posts

Hi All
I bought a Landrover Freelander 1.8ES, and my head gasket blew at 27000 miles, yes on the motorway as well Jane
I have reseaerched this problem now, and to let you know, this is a common fault with this engine
#It is a K-series engine, the same as Rover used and admitted the problem
Landrover will not admit this fault and continue selling cars knowing this problem exsists.I have had my head gasket repaired, but the car is running very rough. I have been advised that the head could well go again, as the engine will continue to get too hot(Which is the fault)It is just a matter of time
They are breaking the law, by selling goods not fit for purpose and with a latent fault
I will be speaking to landrover, with a view to taking them to court
I want either a full refund of my purchase price or a Td4, which has a BMW engine, so does not have the problem
I would appreciate any information, which any of you may have on these engines
I will keep you all posted
Chris

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