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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
9 June 2005, 1:36 PM
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duncanfitz
Joined 16 May 2005
9 posts
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So they say that as the car was under warranty to someone else that their responsibility of selling the car initially with faults when they knew it was always going to blow the gasket (beacuse they always go on every car, as I was tols bt Land Rover Chipperfield) You are less entitled than someone who happened to buy the car with some warranty left!I think the leagal term for that is *!#%!@!! They wouldn't win if it went to court. Which area are you in? Do you have a BBC local radio station who have a comsumer programe? Try them they like this kind of stuff.
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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
9 June 2005, 2:06 PM
 Edited by fraggle 9 June 2005, 3:43 PM
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fraggle
Joined 9 Jun 2005
7 posts
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I have 2001 bought from new. I have had the engine management light flickering on and off. Have stopped driving it. I've had a mechanic friend look at it - head gasket!Phoned LR - "there is no known problem with the headgaskets sir". "Not known in the sense that LR are subject to a class action about this issue, not known in the sense that the dealer does loads, not known in the sense if you do a google search on Freelander +Head Gasket it returns more hits that your poxy car is capable of doing miles"
"Is it under 4yrs and has it been regularly servived by a main dealer?"
"yes - and it's always been a lemon, new head at 300miles, new rear brakes at 350 miles, new engine at 1700, front subframe came loose at 1800 and I hate the f****ing thing and sould have dumped it long ago but the wife loves and I can't afford to take the depreciation hit"
"Take it along to a main dealer with the service record and we'll repair it FOC sir"
Rang the main dealer - different from the one I bought it from - "We do loads of these, it'll be a first if Landrover pay 100% for the repair" Its going in on Monday - I'm scared. I don't have the money to fix the bloody thing and the chances are it will go bang again next month. The trouble is it has the potential to be a great car. Does anyone have any technical info as to why the gasket blows, some say dowels, some say the silicon bonding agent and some say the head bolts.
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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
9 June 2005, 2:50 PM
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Graham
Joined 1 Jun 2005
16 posts
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I have appointed an expert consultant engineer in connection with my litigation. When I get his report (next week) I'll relay his conclusions re causeGraham
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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
9 June 2005, 3:46 PM
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fraggle
Joined 9 Jun 2005
7 posts
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I've come across this site:http://www.freelanderheadgasket.co.uk/ It has links to the watchdog piece as well as a class action.
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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
10 June 2005, 8:05 AM
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Alta
Joined 10 Jun 2005
2 posts
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My Landrover Freelander V6 petrol had a head gasket failure recently. It is a 2001 model. I have now been advised by Landrover South Africa that the bill is likely to be over 5000 pounds, since there is engine damage. I am interested in this discussion as it seems to be a common problem with Freelanders. The car however is out of warranty. It has been relatively problem free so far, except for peripheral problems, such as a faulty sun roof. Can anyone advise?
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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
10 June 2005, 8:58 AM
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fraggle
Joined 9 Jun 2005
7 posts
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I've not heard of the V6s giving problems - the 1.8 4 cylinder Petrols have a design flaw that causes gasket failure (this also affects MGs, Rover 75s as they all use the same K series engine)My guess is that you are unlucky and will have to wear the cost. I have to say £5K seems a bit high can you get a recon engine from somewhere?
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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
10 June 2005, 9:59 AM
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alison
Joined 10 Jun 2005
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Absolutely similar sircumstances, except car going back into garage on monday, hope not gasket again, took bill to main dealer in Swansea December 2004 still no payment June 2005, Landrover not wanting to pay for labour cause not carried out at main dealer, we didnt know about fault either. Vehicle stopped on motorway on sunday night about 40 miles from main dealer anyway.
Have you had any more joy, have just contacted local TV consumer programme, wonder if they are interested, must be loads of us out there.Let us all know how u get on and vica versa
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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
13 June 2005, 8:41 PM
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matt
Joined 13 Jun 2005
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Yes! The head of my Freelander 50th edition, V reg. has blown too. After it was taken to my usual Land Rover dealer, on their own accord, they contacted Land Rover head office. They volunteered to pay for the parts but I will need to pay for the labour which comes to £686.46. Should I still pay for the labour? I did buy the car second hand from a LR dealer.
Matt
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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
13 June 2005, 9:00 PM
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duncanfitz
Joined 16 May 2005
9 posts
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Don't pay for any of it.LR paid for mine 100% after the dealership contacted them. Why do they say they won't pay labour? When they pay for 1 person they will have to dig very deep for a reason not to pay for someone elses. Happy to give my name and reg if it will help.
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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
13 June 2005, 9:13 PM
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Alta
Joined 10 Jun 2005
2 posts
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Were these all 1.8 litre engines? I am trying to trace whether the problem applies to V6 engines too -- in which case I'll take up the fight with Landrover South Africa. No watchdog report here! But if it is recognised in the UK and for the V6 engine too, I may have a leg to stand on.
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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
15 June 2005, 6:58 AM
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fraggle
Joined 9 Jun 2005
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The head gasket design flaw is only 1.8 Petrols - as stated in previous post in answer to same question.For all you [early - I guess pre 2000] model owners, have a look at http://www.sandsmuseum.com/cars/elise/thec......gine/kingk.html This discusses cooling system issues. There was a mod to the later Freelanders to move the position of the stat. I have been in contact with a company that provides tuned K series engines for Motorsports. They reckon head gasket failure ais all down to overheating, particularly when the car is thrashed. They can supply a heavy gasket but do point out that that it won't stop the overheating heating problem - not quite sure if that is helpful as according to the temp guage mine didn't overheat.
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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
15 June 2005, 5:32 PM
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CANDIR1
Joined 15 Jun 2005
3 posts
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Have Freelander 1.8GS petrol 51 plate, 34530 miles, full service history. Friend who works for BMW did raise Head Gasket problem he said by 35000 it would go. Raised concern with Land Rover dealer they stated " not true" and again when queried " not a problem, don't worry" 5 times I asked. Last week on hoilday, in Cornwall, 400 miles from home, going up a 19% hill, guess what, head gasket GONE!!! Phoned dealer, "just one of those things" Land Rover assistance collected car, given Ford Focus to replace Freelander. Luckily car has 27 days left on warranty, replaced head gasket, labour although free, could of cost £75.00 per hour!! Have upgraded service to 44000 miles. Have arranged appointment with dealer to secure another years warranty free of charge, and refund of service upgrade costs £288.37, or the car will be left on forecourt till such time as I am happy, fingers crossed! Do not like being took for an idiot, especially when it involves money!
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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
16 June 2005, 12:52 PM
Edited by Matt 16 June 2005, 4:46 PM
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Matt
Joined 17 May 2005
13 posts
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Just formally heard back from LR via a letter. They will not entertain any form of contibrution to the repair as the car is 2000 and 2 years out of warranty, and 'the good will claim is just that and not a God given right' or words to that effect. And to make matter worst my local LR dealer are now saying if are don't move my car immediately they will be charging me for space which it is taking up!!! ***king cheeky b******s!!!
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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
16 June 2005, 4:41 PM
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TimL
Joined 16 Jun 2005
1 posts
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Similar just happened to me - any pointers to finding an "expert engineer"
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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
16 June 2005, 6:41 PM
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alison
Joined 10 Jun 2005
3 posts
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We are currently talking to a local TV station about Landrover, as they are aware of their smoking gun under the engine, maybe they will back down and pay for us all
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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
16 June 2005, 6:46 PM
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alison
Joined 10 Jun 2005
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I am currently talking to local TV Consumer Programme to see if there is anything to do about all this, landrover knew they had smoking gun under the bonnet, just imagine how much they would have to pay out, they are bound to fight us all on this. If you go to http://www.freelanderheadgasket.co.uk you will see that we are not alone
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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
16 June 2005, 6:50 PM
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jaq200
Joined 6 May 2005
13 posts
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Whats the point of giving mass publicity to the problem/s with the Freelander 1.8. Think of the long-term effects, unless Landrover buy back our vehicles at current market value (do pigs fly) we are losers all round! I was so disgusted with what has happened I went out and bought another vehicle (Mercedes) and my 2001 Freelander 1.8S is sitting in the Landrover dealer's compound while I get up the gumption to advertise it on the open market to some other poor sucker.
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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
16 June 2005, 9:01 PM
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fraggle
Joined 9 Jun 2005
7 posts
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I've had the dealer on the phone. Apparently mine has burnt out an exhaust valve and it's not the head gasket. (another common problem)I've discussed the HG problem with the dealer. He is of the opinion that he'll fit a modified head gasket and check that the car has all the mods to the cooling system and I shouldn't have a problem. The general tone of the conversation was that the HG problem is fixed
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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
17 June 2005, 10:55 AM
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Graham
Joined 1 Jun 2005
16 posts
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for experts try expertsearch.co.uk. Or directory of experts.
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Land Rover Freelander Head Gasket Failure
17 June 2005, 1:20 PM
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Lynda
Joined 13 Apr 2005
8 posts
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MATTMine is also a 2000 (x) model - my local land rover dealer got land rover to pay 100% ? mine too had an expired warranty.
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