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rover 416 starting / running problem
24 February 2007, 9:40 AM
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Julian
Joined 8 Feb 2005
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Hi. I would think it would be around £350. including new thermostat, system flush, head bolts gaskets and machining. But what other car can you get for the repair cost. When running they are quite good cars.
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rover 416 starting / running problem
24 February 2007, 6:13 PM
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BrianM
Joined 10 Jan 2004
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You need to establish if it is the head gasket yet. Could be a hose leak or water pump. Look around & under the engine for any leak. Check the dip stick for any water contamination. Running the engine take the coolant filler off & see if there is pressure building up. Top up the coolant with the engine running. Repeatedly press the top & bottom hoses to get air out. Have the heater control set to hot. When hot see if you have water circulation the thermastat should have opened & both top & bottom hoses should be hot. If just the top one is boiling hot then the thermastat is stuck shut so needs changing. If ok but all the water is now pumping out of the filler then either you have an air lock or the pump is faulty. Regular bubbles of would be signs of a head gasket. Take the car around the block with the cap off & top up if needed when you get back.
Like Terriers says, when running they are good cars. A proper head gasket job should see you right for the rest of the life of the car.
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rover 416 starting / running problem
25 February 2007, 11:50 PM
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zolee
Joined 25 Feb 2007
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Hi, probably you have got problem with your charcoal canister and the purge valve on top of it. As you described it, seems very similar to what I had with mine. You probly need to disconnect the pipe from your inlet port, blank it off (block it). Do the same to the other pipe going to the charcoal canister. Disconnect the wire from the purge valve. It only soaks up the petrol fumes and evaporates back into the engine when it is running. if it is broken, you can buy one for about £60.00 from rover dealer. It is not worth it, `cause it will pass the MOT without anyway. Mine had the same problem, it was so bad, that the overflow pipe was full of petrol, pouring with petrol. Not good, when the whole car smelt of petrol with a baby in it. So, after this done to mine it was ok. No problem ever since. Runs fine, it does around 7liters/100km on the motorway on constant 75mph speed, 2-3 up+lagguage. Do not waste your pounds on the main dealer. It is very dangerous when you try to overtake and the power drops, I know the feeling. Try these, and send me a mail, I am interested, if it cured it.
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rover 416 starting / running problem
27 February 2007, 8:06 PM
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lew
Joined 27 Feb 2007
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Rover 1996 416II had experienced the car revving badly sometimes it was so bad I would have to switch the engine off and on again.Other times it would cut out at junctions. The last time the car went it shuddered and lost power and hasnt started since. the car has plenty of spark and the petrol is there in the fuel rail but the petrol injectors are not opening up.Unless you turn the starter over a few times the plugs are not getting wet. The ECU has been away but nothing was found to be wrong with it. Has anyone else expierenced any problems like this? Please can you help?
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rover 416 starting / running problem
27 February 2007, 9:18 PM
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suzflan
Joined 7 May 2006
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I have and the only thing that worked for me was a new ECU. Its worth a try. I found mine from a breakers yard on Ebay for £35. Revving and cutting out have stopped and yet Rover garage couldn't find andything else wrong.
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rover 416 starting / running problem
27 February 2007, 10:24 PM
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BrianM
Joined 10 Jan 2004
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You say "Unless you turn the starter over a few times the plugs are not getting wet." This means that the injectors are working. So could be plugs a coil or resistance in king lead dis cap or rotor arm. Your poor running may be solved due to the time the ecu has been disconnected. It will have reset to its original map. Could of course be cam belt.
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rover 416 starting / running problem
28 February 2007, 8:19 AM
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QUOMAN
Joined 16 Mar 2006
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it may also be map sensor in the ecu, this is VERY popular fault
also IF you buy a second hand ecu and its a car registered after 1995 IT WONT WORK, its coded to the car so make sure it has been virginised (dissconecting the ecu while the car is running is NOT fix) it only MIGHT work
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rover 416 starting / running problem
28 February 2007, 9:25 AM
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r200
Joined 16 Jul 2005
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>>dissconecting the ecu while the car is running is NOT fixMight be a permanent fix,if it blows the ecu as happens now and again!
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rover 416 starting / running problem
28 February 2007, 9:01 PM
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doward
Joined 20 Feb 2007
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Hi can anyone tell me how the crank sensor can determine the firing order as well as fuel injector timing. It has always confused me as the crank does two revolutions per cycle.Can anyone help?
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rover 416 starting / running problem
3 March 2007, 3:06 PM
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Dover
Joined 3 Feb 2007
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Hi - Bit late updating but just to confirm Dead right- 2nd hand distributor and problem solved, starts 1st time every time. Thanks for advice
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rover 416 starting / running problem
27 March 2007, 10:17 AM
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peterb
Joined 27 Mar 2007
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hi totally baffled by my rover 416 sli, i have worked on cars for the best part of 20years, this thing is baffling me, it must be a same thing that happens with these rovers cant get it to start by key, will start with a tow but then stops, had head done gasket and all the usual replacements but still nothing i keeep saying its going to the scrap yard but it is in excellant condition inside and out and i wont let this baffling get me, please please can someone put me in the right direction has what to do next. thanks HELP
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rover 416 starting / running problem
27 March 2007, 6:47 PM
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qprmark
Joined 14 Dec 2006
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hi guys it wsa the blinking batterie how stupid do i feel!
any way i have a new problem
the car starts perfectly every time but if i atempt to drive it straight away it loses power big time sounding like a tractor! however if i rev it over 2000 revs for 2 mins it works brilliantly! now you might say keep reving it but i dont think it will do it much good in long run?
so any help or advice most welcome!
cheers in advance!
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rover 416 starting / running problem
28 March 2007, 8:48 AM
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doward
Joined 20 Feb 2007
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Hi I have got a Question for you, does it idle ok or does it keep cutting out and does it misfire at high revs?
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rover 416 starting / running problem
29 March 2007, 8:27 PM
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qprmark
Joined 14 Dec 2006
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it idles fine after reving over 2000 no to all over questions like i say once it has warmed up to good running temp its perfect!
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rover 416 starting / running problem
30 March 2007, 8:09 AM
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peterb
Joined 27 Mar 2007
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hi thanks for your concern it doesnt do anything it just starts from a tow but wont start from key done everything possible i have had the head done could it not be sat properly
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rover 416 starting / running problem
30 March 2007, 8:11 AM
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Julian
Joined 8 Feb 2005
2518 posts
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Hi. Replace the coolant temp sensor and also check the body earth by the battery.
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rover 416 starting / running problem
30 March 2007, 8:35 AM
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Julian
Joined 8 Feb 2005
2518 posts
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Hi. Peterb.
Check the pump relay and fuel pressure. Than try the ignition switch or bypass it .
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rover 416 starting / running problem
30 March 2007, 11:11 AM
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peterb
Joined 27 Mar 2007
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hi mate checked everything this is one is a baffeler appreciate any advise
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rover 416 starting / running problem
30 March 2007, 11:57 AM
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Julian
Joined 8 Feb 2005
2518 posts
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Hi. When you crank it is there a spark and good fuel pressure ?
Can you give me history of the problem.
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rover 416 starting / running problem
30 March 2007, 9:53 PM
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peterb
Joined 27 Mar 2007
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done cylinder head had it pressure tested ok put the head back on compression tested each cylinder reading 45 only could it be leaky valve
or cylinder head not seated propley,i think lack of compression what would you say, thanks for your email
peterb
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