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rover 416 starting / running problem
1 April 2007, 9:33 AM
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TERRIERS AUTOS
Joined 8 Feb 2005
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Hi. I would double check the camshaft timing and make sure that the cams are fitted on the correct dowels. If I could see the car I am sure I could find the problem but over the internet it can be very hard to diagnose the fault.
If you do need to take the timing belt off then also remove the camshafts and the tappets, then drain the tappets. then when it is all re-assembled turn it over for a few 15 second bursts with the plugs removed.
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rover 416 starting / running problem
1 April 2007, 11:05 AM
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peterb
Joined 27 Mar 2007
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if you look at the cam pullies the inlet and exhaust are in the middle of the pully, the bottom pully timing mark lines up with the bottom of the pump for top dead centre,the dowls behind the pullyes line up at 1 o,clock and 8 o, clock, they have been checked by a mechanic and he says they are spot on, thanks for your info if there is anything else i would appreciate it . new battery earth leads redone,i personaly dont think it spins over enough to get the compression
regards
peterb
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rover 416 starting / running problem
1 April 2007, 8:00 PM
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lew
Joined 27 Feb 2007
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sorry I haven't replied to the advert regarding to the starting of the rover 416, as i can't work the computer myself I have to wait for my grandaugter to do it for me, I thank you all very much for answering the message. The fault has now been found in the wiring loom which earths the petrol injectors, it is now up and running. The ECU was checked and there was no faults found in it. The fitter said that the over revving was caused by the shorts which he found in the loom.
Many thanks.
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rover 416 starting / running problem
6 April 2007, 0:41 AM
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colin
Joined 6 Apr 2007
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it will be your trotle sensor as my rover 620 ti does the same make you you get a new one as an old one doent wort
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rover 416 starting / running problem
19 April 2007, 4:58 PM
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john
Joined 19 Apr 2007
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Hi all fellow 416 owners/sufferers, Mine has been playing up
when starting. Most times it fires immediately, other times
it needs to turn over a couple of times - but ocassionally it just cranks
and cranks and cranks.... Also, it doesn't like to re-start within a couple
of minutes of being switched off. Now, and this has just happened this
pm, I decided to check the plugs and found the recess for the 2nd one
from the left (when facing w'screen) full of oil up to the top of the plug,
plus the ht lead holder cracked. Could this be the root cause ? My
local garage says it's a common prob. & there's a drain hole in the bottom of the
plug recess draining oil from the cam box & eventually it gets bunged up.
Roll on Monday when they'll hopefully sort it. Cheers, all 416 mashocists..
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rover 416 starting / running problem
20 April 2007, 4:32 PM
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Mike416
Joined 20 Apr 2007
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Hi.
I wonder if somebody can help me here.
Im having problems with my 1997 rover 416 Si . I havent driving it for a 5 days and something happened. The engine doesnt start. At the fist time the engine starts working for about a 2 seconds and smoothly stopped. Now it just turns over and wont start.
There is plenty of petrol in the car, starter, battery and fuses are ok.
Is there something I could check by myself before I have to spend an unusual amount of money?
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rover 416 starting / running problem
23 April 2007, 3:18 PM
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dean
Joined 23 Apr 2007
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Hello all.I have a rover 416 Preg. I have been having starting problems. The car will start first time and runs ok. When switched off and returned to after a couple of minutes it seems like the starter motor is lazy and wont start( as though the battery is flat). Go back a day later and it will start. I have had the battery checked thats ok(pretty new), i have checked all earth connections and emmery clothed them all,added a extra earth,there is 14+volts coming off alternator. The starter motor does sound lazy when starting could this be the issue? any feedback would be much appreciated.thank you.
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rover 416 starting / running problem
23 April 2007, 5:44 PM
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fiestapower
Joined 17 Dec 2006
4 posts
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mines the same mate startes just weak thats all nothin to worrie about really
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rover 416 starting / running problem
23 April 2007, 6:27 PM
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r200
Joined 16 Jul 2005
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If the starter is lazy, it may need replacing as they are not all curable by stripping and cleaning.!
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rover 416 starting / running problem
23 April 2007, 8:00 PM
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peterb
Joined 27 Mar 2007
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hi yes that could be the problem take it off get it checked if its that get one from scrapyard £15-£20, mine cam was 180 degrees out after gettin pressure tested got it started new plugs tried again and hey presso wont start again totally doin my head in, put the old plugs in and started again, left it a day and hey presso wont start at all i give up any more advise welcome i have had every part i can tell u about checked and all are ok why wont it start any body want it for £300 are welcome to it cos i am not spending any more on it i have spent 300 already plus exhaust was 250
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rover 416 starting / running problem
24 April 2007, 9:28 AM
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john
Joined 19 Apr 2007
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I had the starter, plugs, dist. cap, ht leads
and cam box gasket replaced yesterday. I
managed to stall it backing out, to drive to
the garage & it wouldn't re-start. Had to
push it to the kerb. Starter would just crank
for a couple of secs then make a quiet, sad little
clunk.... left if a couple of minutes & tried again -
success ! brmm brmm... one working Rover.
Luckily the starter replaced the one fitted in August
when the clutch failed, so the garage warranty
covered it. Now, it's instant start every time (so far),
repeated starts no problem, doesn't even have that
half second hesitation between crank and fire that
it always used to have...
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rover 416 starting / running problem
25 April 2007, 8:24 PM
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Sean's 25
Joined 25 Apr 2007
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Hi, not a 416 but related! I have a Rover 25 1.4, I've just had the head gasket replaced along with a full service: Cambelt, plugs, fuel filter, air filter, oil etc. The problem is that is seems to be getting progressively harder to start. It doesn't matter if the engine's hot or cold, and the weather makes no difference. Once it starts, it runs fine: very quiet and very smooth. This starting thing bothers me, though, as it originally became difficult when the head gasket failed. Any Ideas? Sean
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rover 416 starting / running problem
29 April 2007, 1:05 PM
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peterb
Joined 27 Mar 2007
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hi dean got your car running yet, mine is exactly the same, got new starter motor started first time, left it running turned it off got it started 3 times no problem turned it off left it the night and god dont believe it back to how it was before wont start, sounds like starter motor is draining the battery, i have never come accross a car that i cant get started it is totally baffling me any more advise as i dont know where to start next thanks peterb
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rover 416 starting / running problem
29 April 2007, 1:33 PM
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TERRIERS AUTOS
Joined 8 Feb 2005
2447 posts
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Hi. Are you sure your battery is ok ?
Is something draining the battery overnight ?
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rover 416 starting / running problem
29 April 2007, 3:51 PM
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dean
Joined 23 Apr 2007
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hello.I am waiting on my friend to get me a starter motor. he should of brought it today actually.ha ha. I had my battery checked and they said it was fine. I was even dissconnecting when i wasnt using it incase it was the alarm draining it. I thought the same about the starter motor draining battery. Will let you know when i change the starter motor how it goes. thanks.
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rover 416 starting / running problem
29 April 2007, 4:40 PM
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r200
Joined 16 Jul 2005
1278 posts
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>>I thought the same about the starter motor draining batteryMore likely to be the alternator draining the battery than starter motor-how did they check the battery?
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rover 416 starting / running problem
29 April 2007, 5:19 PM
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dean
Joined 23 Apr 2007
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i took it to halfords and they checked the battery. i had a multimeter on the alternator and it was giving back over 14 volts.
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rover 416 starting / running problem
29 April 2007, 5:58 PM
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TERRIERS AUTOS
Joined 8 Feb 2005
2447 posts
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Hi. Was this on the car, off the car, after the car wouldn't start ?
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rover 416 starting / running problem
29 April 2007, 6:16 PM
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peterb
Joined 27 Mar 2007
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hi took the battery back to kwick fit they tested it with the meter 13.46 said fine but cant get it checked on the car cos it wont start the only other way i think is to take the belt off the alternater see if that works thanks for your emails
peterb
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rover 416 starting / running problem
29 April 2007, 7:17 PM
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dean
Joined 23 Apr 2007
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hi. My car was on the road. the problem started weeks ago. it would last a fews week before it would not start. it now happens everytime i make a journey for about 2 mile or more.come back switch the car off then it wont start.sometimes if i go back the day after it will start. absolutley hit a brick wall with this.thanks for your replys by the way.
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