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rover 416 starting / running problem
21 October 2007, 11:18 AM

arrymc
Joined 20 Oct 2007
3 posts

its a 95 with a k series engine, dizzy and ign side seam fine good solid blue spark to plugs, will try changing crank sensor and temp see if that works thanks

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rover 416 starting / running problem
21 October 2007, 2:14 PM

wallace
Joined 20 Oct 2007
3 posts

cheers mate ma car is a w reg and its a 16.16v

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rover 416 starting / running problem
21 October 2007, 2:17 PM

wallace
Joined 20 Oct 2007
3 posts

hiya mate try crank sensor / distributor dependine on year / engine.

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rover 416 starting / running problem
21 October 2007, 9:14 PM

ted
Joined 27 Nov 2006
20 posts

ok mate

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rover 416 starting / running problem
22 October 2007, 4:59 PM

BrianM
Joined 11 Nov 2006
886 posts

arrymc, does your car have the honda engine as this sounds very much like a distributor fault.

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rover 416 starting / running problem
23 October 2007, 8:53 PM

dogrough
Joined 23 Oct 2007
2 posts

hi everyone...new here! has anyone got any ides on what could be wrong with my rover 416 cabriolet honda engine 1992 k reg. It starts ok first thing in the morning and starts ok in the evening for the return journey home from work- but if i drive to work and turn it off and then try to start it again within 10/15 minutes it wont start. If i then leave it for 5 minutes it will start and run ok. I have changed the distributor cap but it made no difference. Also does anyone know if my car has a obd? socket and if it has where is it. Hope you can help guys

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rover 416 starting / running problem
23 October 2007, 9:59 PM

BrianM
Joined 11 Nov 2006
886 posts

Check for a spark & fuel pressure. If no spark I would suspect the coil & may also be the distributor. Check the temp sender & ambient air temp sensor. It could be giving a low reading that would over fuel & flood the plugs. Take out a plug & check for this.

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rover 416 starting / running problem
23 October 2007, 10:35 PM

arrymc
Joined 20 Oct 2007
3 posts

brian my engine is the k series i did the dizzy and rotor arm already and swoped idle control sensors and cranking sensors over from a car i know to be working its still being a begger

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rover 416 starting / running problem
28 October 2007, 9:13 PM

vinnie
Joined 28 Oct 2007
1 posts

Hi, the problem is the immobaliser set its self once ignition is turned off then on again so nothing will happen cos of immob. Lock car then unlock and immobaliser is off, will bump no problem.

cheers
vinnie

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rover 416 starting / running problem
29 October 2007, 9:15 AM

QUOMAN
Joined 16 Mar 2006
513 posts

dogrough, your ecu has a self diagnosis light on the ecu, under the passenger seat ,i think

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rover 416 starting / running problem
31 October 2007, 11:26 PM

helen
Joined 31 Oct 2007
1 posts

Hi
Hope someone can help me. I have a Rover 200 Diesel and been having some serious problems which sound very similar to those experienced by others. Hoping, loss of power etc. Seems worse in the cold weather and once I get going it seems to go ok. Has been going on for a few months, seemed to improve after an oil change (?) but for last 2 weeks has been worse than ever. Read it might be the fuel pump, is it worth trying it?

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rover 416 starting / running problem
1 November 2007, 7:42 PM

dogrough
Joined 23 Oct 2007
2 posts

thanks quoman.....i'll have a look.

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rover 416 starting / running problem
4 December 2007, 4:48 PM

shaun
Joined 4 Dec 2007
2 posts

Hi all

I recently became the not so proud owner of a T reg Rover 400s. It seemed to be an amazing buy to start with, however after a few days it became evident why the car was sold to me for such a low price!

When i look under the bonnet everything looks tip top, it is obvious that the person i bought it from has put a lot of money into trying to fix a problem and got sick of it. It has a new altenator, new exaust system, battery, ecu, spark plugs, you name it!

The problem i am having is that it does not start properly. I have to put my foot down on the accelerator and turn the key at the same time in order to start it, when the engine is hot it starts in approximetly one second, however when the engine is cold it has been known to take up to one full minute for the engine to kick in, sometimes it does not start at all. The battery is not flat but i did i try a jump start anyway when i knew the battery was charged and it started fairly quickly from a cold state. However i cannot get a jumpstart before i go to work every morning.

When turning the key i can hear it ticking over and it sounds like the engine is deffinetley trying to start but either does not have enough power to start compleatley or enough fuel going into the engine to start fully

Other problems to be noted with the car are as follows -

When in nuetral, or changing down gears, (i presume it is the automatic choke) compleatly cuts the engine out, leaving me wrestling with the steering wheel, turning the key, puting my foot on the accelerator and puting the car into neaural all at the same time in order to restart the engine and regain control of the car!

Also

I took it to a friends garage where as a favour a quick diagnosis was made, he advised me that it could be the cylinder head gasket. also emission levels were very high when the car is idoling, when the revs go above 1100 the emissions get lower. but as the engine heats up the automatic choke brings the idol revs down to 900-1000 rpm, which for some reason makes the emissions higher! this means it will fail its next MOT

Could anybody advise me on what could be wrong with the car, i have a feeling that it has something to do with the fuel system or fuel pump, and i thing the problem is deffinetly temperature related! however i do not know much about how such things work. any feedback would be appriciated as i am on the verge of either selling it on or just sending it to the scrapheap! The cylinder head gasket has recently been skimmed and new gasket added so that is not the problem

Thanks for your time
Shaun

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rover 416 starting / running problem
4 December 2007, 5:09 PM

BrianM
Joined 11 Nov 2006
886 posts

The most common problem with these engines is the engine temp sender for the ecu. It has two connectors, you can check it with an ohm meter if you have one. When cold it should be in the region of 1300 -1400 kohm the resistance drops with a rise in engine temperature. This is how the ecu decides how much fuel to inject. The other thing to check, as the head has been off, is the cam timing & cam belt tension as these will throw the emmisions out.

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rover 416 starting / running problem
5 December 2007, 4:13 PM

shaun
Joined 4 Dec 2007
2 posts

If there is something wrong with the temp sender, would that make it less likely to start in cold weather?

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rover 416 starting / running problem
5 December 2007, 9:33 PM

MICK
Joined 22 Sep 2006
34 posts

THE ECU also has a vacuum pipe on it and within it has a vacuum diaphram of which i have had tested on a scanner machine at a garage and it is this vacuum diaphram at fault as if you disconnect the vacuum pipe my emisions are fine but obviously have eratic advance / retard due to disconnected vacuum.
ECU Sending to the ECU doctor at plymouth for fixinig ? cheapish as well.

mick

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rover 416 starting / running problem
7 December 2007, 8:44 AM

BrianM
Joined 11 Nov 2006
886 posts

Shaun, If the temp sender is faulty then it can cause cold starting problems & hot starting also. If it has given up sending a changing resistance then it will cause problems. The ecu will log this as a fault & put the car in `get you home mode' this means the engine will run but will use a lot of fuel & not be that responsive.

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rover 416 starting / running problem
20 December 2007, 7:31 PM

Edited by matt 08 20 December 2007, 7:33 PM

matt 08
Joined 20 Dec 2007
15 posts

hi i have a rover 420 gsi turbo 2.0 ltr, i just bought the car , but the problem is...
the car starts 1st time and drives fine , but as the car gets warm around 15 mile it will cut out lose power. but i can turn engine off and re-start and will start 1st time.
ive noticed theres alot of smoke compared to my astra.
please help asap.
thanx matthew

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rover 416 starting / running problem
21 December 2007, 9:46 AM

Julian
Joined 8 Feb 2005
2449 posts

Hi. This could be a number of things from a faulty sensor to fuel filter, fuel vent or blocked cat or exhaust.

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rover 416 starting / running problem
21 December 2007, 4:53 PM

matt 08
Joined 20 Dec 2007
15 posts

hi can you give me a price for the parts or somewhere to look? for them . many thanx . it also is running and dropping revs if this is any help

cheers matt

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