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rover 416 starting / running problem
4 May 2008, 10:39 PM
2wit2wooowlrescue
Joined 24 Mar 2008
8 posts

hi
i just recently bought a rover 416 1995 petrol, i drove it almost 100 miles to get it home and had no problems what so ever, next day it started fine and i drove 5 miles before parking, left for half an hour n when i came back she woudlnt start properly, engine woudl come on but just no revs or idling.coughing and cutting out-no chance of moving it.
called the breakdown who discovered my petrol had flooded, released that then checked all my spark plugs etc but still non starting,only responding if revs are up to 4000. he towed me to garage where it has been checked over for all common faults and idled for an hour but wouldnt restart.
i am reallly frustrated and uspet as i have only had the car since thu n its bin in garage since fri morning looking fro the cause.
mechanic thinks it may be the computer? or electrical fault? would this be likely or would he be barking up the wrong tree all together.? he has dun whatever he does with his computer but it showed up nothing.
i really need to get to bottom o this cos i have four year old daughter who travels over 4 miles to nursery and back every day, and a disabled mum.


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rover 416 starting / running problem
13 May 2008, 4:05 PM
Anees00
Joined 13 May 2008
1 posts

I am also facing the same problem, can you please call or text me. I am in reading.


rover 416 starting / running problem
13 May 2008, 9:52 PM
BrianM
Joined 11 Nov 2006
540 posts

Change the temperature sender for the ecu as it my be giving the wrong value to the ecu. This is the most common fault when an engine will start from cold ok but then won't start after a short drive to the shops.

rover 416 starting / running problem
25 May 2008, 7:35 PM
Fruitbat46
Joined 25 May 2008
4 posts

Hi, can anyone help? Like a lot of previous postings my P Reg. 416 will start and then die on me when it appears to be running OK. At other times it will not start, leave it for a couple of hours and it starts.
Had to call Greenflag out when it died at a set of traffic lights (5.15 pm on a Friday in the centre of Sheffield). The Greenflag driver said the coil was OK but I was getting "a weak spark". He said the engine was running a bit "rough". He suggested it may help if the distributor cap and rotar arm were changed. Did this but no joy. It has been suggested that the ignition module in the distributor may be at fault, as this would cause the engine to run "rough", over rev and make starting difficult. Does anyone have any ideas? Thank you

rover 416 starting / running problem
26 May 2008, 11:40 PM
BrianM
Joined 11 Nov 2006
540 posts

rover engine or honda?


rover 416 starting / running problem
27 May 2008, 8:42 AM
Fruitbat46
Joined 25 May 2008
4 posts

I believe it is a Rover engine.

Thank you

rover 416 starting / running problem
27 May 2008, 3:52 PM
BrianM
Joined 11 Nov 2006
540 posts

I ask because there is no distributor on the Rover engine. The Honda engine does have a distributor & yes the common fault is the hall effect switch within it. This tends to cut out. If it is just poor running & over-choking then change the temp sender first. Obviously check that the cables to sensors from ecu are not fractured.

rover 416 starting / running problem
27 May 2008, 4:56 PM
Fruitbat46
Joined 25 May 2008
4 posts

Thank you Brian. I am not mechanically minded, so I was going on what I have been told. I have arranged for someone to have a look at it tonight so will guide him in the direction of the temp sender first.

rover 416 starting / running problem
30 May 2008, 8:13 PM
Fruitbat46
Joined 25 May 2008
4 posts

Thank you Brian for your info. I got the car to a local mechanic and he changed the plug leads and cleaned up the "temp sender to the ECU" as it was covered in "gunge". It no longer over revs, and is running sweeter than it has for a long time.


Can you throw light on another problem, please, that has nothing to do with starting or running?
I had a new radio/CD fitted but cannot get the tuner to work (except for static). Is the problem a disconnected/damaged aerial cable, or that the radio needs a booster, as the fitter says? The car has an external aerial. I feel it's an aerial problem.

Thank you

rover 416 starting / running problem
2 June 2008, 11:07 PM
2wit2wooowlrescue
Joined 24 Mar 2008
8 posts

hi
in responce to my previous question, it is now nearly a month later and i have had my car back for a few days, teh ecu did indeed appear to be my problem after nearly four weeks and goodness knows how many ecus my car is now back on the road and running smoothly, and i am over the moon.
think th ebiggest prob was coding the fob? i don tkno bur i hav my car :)


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rover 416 starting / running problem
8 June 2008, 3:25 PM
Rickard
Joined 8 Jun 2008
2 posts

Can anyone tell me where the main relay actually is exactly on a rover 415si Honda engine 1995

cheers JJ

rover 416 starting / running problem
8 June 2008, 5:00 PM
Rickard
Joined 8 Jun 2008
2 posts

I found the main relay and resolered it and it appears to have fixed the problems with starting. The main relay can be found on the left hand side of the centre console. Take the side panel off and you can see the relay and it is held on with a nut hope this helps someone
cheers JJ

rover 416 starting / running problem
12 July 2008, 10:24 AM
reynard
Joined 11 Jul 2008
1 posts

I'm a little concerned about adding to this list of woe. Would it be wise to always carry spare sensors and an ECU?? Anyway :-
Some advice would be appreciated for intermittent fault on 214.
Its sons car and has to get him to work at 5AM so starting would be usefull.
Sometimes it just refuses to start, could be from cold or after a stop or simply cut out at a junction. Then it might restart immediately or, once, not until the next day. There seems no patten. I 've checked all the obvious like fuses and connections all seems fine.
The starter motor operates, it is just dead as if no ignition. When it stops it stops cleanly so I suspect it is not fuel.
Bizarrely (?) on two occassions when it refused ,pulling off No1 spark lead had it immediatelly fire up on 3 !!! Coincidence?
Its a really nice car, only done 50k, so to scrap would be a shame. But it is useless at the moment.
ECU unit? Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance.

rover 416 starting / running problem
29 July 2008, 5:00 PM
paula
Joined 29 Jul 2008
2 posts

my car is hoping and the stuttering then pulling away very quickly. it has been doing this for about 2 months now could the fuel pump be the problem?

rover 416 starting / running problem
29 July 2008, 5:35 PM
TERRIERS AUTOS
Joined 8 Feb 2005
2438 posts

Hi. It could be no end of things from plugs / leads to temperature transmitter or broken cat, the only way to find out is to take it for diagnosis


rover 416 starting / running problem
25 September 2008, 11:32 PM
rabid
Joined 25 Sep 2008
5 posts

Hello, i just recekntly bought a '96 416 Sli auto, i had previously owned a Peugeot 405 for 2 years.

Please forgive my question but after buying this Rover i dont know if i have a problem or not, you see the car runs fine, it starts fine and cruises on the motorway fine but it is VERY slow to pull away in, it just really creeps away or seems to, i feel like i need to stand on the gas and press the pedal quite hard to get it to pull away without holding everyone up behind me, does this sound normal?

Thankyou.

rover 416 starting / running problem
26 September 2008, 12:35 PM
TERRIERS AUTOS
Joined 8 Feb 2005
2438 posts

Hi. without actually driving the car it is impossible to establish is and what fault there might be.

rover 416 starting / running problem
26 September 2008, 4:22 PM
rabid
Joined 25 Sep 2008
5 posts

Im not sure of any fault, the Rover is 1.6 and my old Peugeot is 2.0 so that may be why the Rover feels very sluggish, at least this is what my neighbour says could be the case.

There is a distinct difference between the 2 cars regarding pulling away, its very very noticable.


rover 416 starting / running problem
26 September 2008, 4:43 PM
TERRIERS AUTOS
Joined 8 Feb 2005
2438 posts

Well the only way would be to take it to a local garage and ask them to test drive it

rover 416 starting / running problem
26 September 2008, 5:11 PM
BrianM
Joined 11 Nov 2006
540 posts

Sounds to me that it is selecting 3rd & not drive. Try putting it in 1st & not d .

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