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rover 416 starting / running problem
29 January 2006, 10:17 AM
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TERRIERS AUTOS
Joined 8 Feb 2005
2425 posts
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Hi. If it is smelling of petrol it is unlikely to be the fuel pump, could be the crank sensor, check the distributor cap and rotor, temp sensor and main relay.
It sounds like it needs proper diagnosis as there appears to be a number of issues.
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rover 416 starting / running problem
3 February 2006, 3:24 PM
 Edited by rover_rage 3 February 2006, 3:24 PM
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rover_rage
Joined 3 Feb 2006
1 posts
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Hi there
Can somebody give me some adivce please? I have a rover 214 sei 1999, had the head gasket skimmed in Nov 05, the clutch replaced two weeks ago and I have noticed that the engine sometimes revs between 1000-1700 when idle, normally from cold. When its warmed up a bit, it normally settles down to about 1000-1100. I've spent a lot of money on this car lately and really hope that its not more bad news.. any suggestions why the car initially revs high on cold start up?
Many thanks.
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rover 416 starting / running problem
16 February 2006, 1:37 PM
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richard
Joined 16 Feb 2006
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hope someone can advise me.... i have a 98 rover416 and have had starting problems ever since ive owned it... the engine turns over once then as it turns again it dips sounding like its a battery problem..then eventually it fires up.... once the car is warm you can turn it off then it will start first time,but once left for a while back to the same problem. ive changed the battery,new starter motor,spark plugs,ht leads,coil, and even tried another ecu but the problem still persists and is becoming very annoying... please help
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rover 416 starting / running problem
16 February 2006, 3:07 PM
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Mij
Joined 16 Jun 2005
5 posts
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Hi Richard
The starting problem I had way, way back in this thread had symptoms very similar to those you describe. I had professionals, both garage and RAC, telling me I needed to replace nearly all the parts that you list. What it turned out to be was just a corroded contact where the earth return lead from the starter is bolted to the engine. A bit of emery paper was all that was needed.
Although I never did discover why I could not push start the car , it has never needed it since.
Mij
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rover 416 starting / running problem
19 February 2006, 12:56 PM
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richard
Joined 16 Feb 2006
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thanx for your reply, i will try what you suggested thats great the last thing i want to do is have to take the car to a main dealer and get stung.... if it doesnt work do you think its worth taking the car to an auto electrican to have it plugged in for a diagnostic check, to see if it shows any fault codes? thanx again Richard
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rover 416 starting / running problem
19 February 2006, 3:17 PM
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Mij
Joined 16 Jun 2005
5 posts
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My own experiences there on the Rover have not been too good. I spent a small fortune trying to get an ABS problem fixed at an auto-electrical place using their diagnostics. Kept saying there was no fault. Eventually turned out to be something that I am sure an "old fashioned" mechanic would have spotted straight away (broken reluctor rings).
Having said that I watched the RAC man do an "old-fashioned" voltage check between the starter motor live and the engine block when the Rover would not start. He reckoned I needed a new motor. It was only when I repeated it later measuring directly between motor live and earth terminals (not easy to do), that I found the real problem.
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rover 416 starting / running problem
21 February 2006, 9:20 AM
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yorkshire
Joined 21 Feb 2006
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i have a 416 s-reg and when pulling away in 1st or 2nd unless i keep the revs above 2000rpm it tries to stall/kangaroos. apart from that it runs fine apart from this annoying little problem. anyone help?
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rover 416 starting / running problem
9 May 2006, 9:13 PM
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suzflan
Joined 7 May 2006
7 posts
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is your problem diagnosed yet? It sounds just like mine. (see erratic idling posted yesterday). Thanks
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rover 416 starting / running problem
16 May 2006, 3:53 PM
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suzflan
Joined 7 May 2006
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Hi, I wonder if you can help me. My engine is stalling, revving, or idling erratically. It is intermittent but lately has increased and is idling erratically most days. I go to a rover dealer and having hooked the car up to all sorts of stuff whilst it was doing the fault they have decided it must be the ECU. They are very kind and have agreed to fit a new one and programme it in for free. however, I am wondering before buying a second hand ECU for £58, whether it could still be the fuel pump. Is this a possiblitly do you think. Its a Rover 420. Thank you so much, I am really in a stew about this especially as with little children, I'm terrified of the car stalling while i'm crossing a road.
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rover 416 starting / running problem
16 May 2006, 5:14 PM
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TERRIERS AUTOS
Joined 8 Feb 2005
2425 posts
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Hi. It is unlikely to be the fuel pump if it is revving, did any fault codes come up when the dealer looked at it ? It could be a number of things from a bad earth (which is quite common) a sensor or the idle speed actuator. I would advise against a second hand ECu as you could be buying the same problem.
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rover 416 starting / running problem
16 May 2006, 7:41 PM
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suzflan
Joined 7 May 2006
7 posts
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thank you. They did run all those tests and there were no error messages at all. They also manually ran over everything while the car was faulting and couldn't find anything wrong, hence suggesting the ECU. Is there anything else they could check?
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rover 416 starting / running problem
17 May 2006, 9:32 AM
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TERRIERS AUTOS
Joined 8 Feb 2005
2425 posts
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Hi. The best bet is to get the Ecu tested off the car, without seeing the car it is hard to tell what the problem could be.
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rover 416 starting / running problem
9 June 2006, 7:25 PM
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andrew
Joined 9 Jun 2006
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i have just rebuilt a rover '94 414 head after having it skimmed. now every time i start it, after 2 minues of gentle running, the camshaft oil seals are being pushed off and damaged by the cam pulleys. this has happened 3 times. any ideas
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rover 416 starting / running problem
9 June 2006, 9:04 PM
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r200
Joined 16 Jul 2005
1262 posts
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What exactly has been done?
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rover 416 starting / running problem
10 June 2006, 8:06 AM
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TERRIERS AUTOS
Joined 8 Feb 2005
2425 posts
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Hi. Are the dreather pipes etc all clear ?
Are they the right oil seals, they should be a tight fit when installed.
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rover 416 starting / running problem
20 June 2006, 9:25 PM
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maverick1971
Joined 20 Jun 2006
1 posts
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have you replaced ecu. my rover 416 had an eratic idle plus keept cutting out when revs dropped.I got a ecu from scarp yard for a fiver and all problems gone.
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rover 416 starting / running problem
21 June 2006, 1:05 PM
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suzflan
Joined 7 May 2006
7 posts
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ditto. would you believe? Also got an old ECU off Ebay for £30 and not had a problem since!
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rover 416 starting / running problem
22 June 2006, 9:39 AM
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QUOMAN
Joined 16 Mar 2006
490 posts
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its ok to get 2nd hand ecus as long as they are not coded (95 on)
any one stuck with one i can decde them or repair rover ecu (they suffer with map sensorproblems)
please check my web site
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0208 315 8309
http://www.ecuclinic.com
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rover 416 starting / running problem
18 July 2006, 9:14 PM
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kopkings1
Joined 18 Jul 2006
1 posts
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i have a rover 416, 1993, the car starts perfectly most the time but sometimes it turn over but wont start. u wait five mins and it starts. some 1 mentioned that it could be the automatic choke staying on after the engine is off and floading the carbretta. to fix this i was told to take the cover off it and clean it with petrol. has any 1 else heard off this.
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rover 416 starting / running problem
15 August 2006, 4:08 PM
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charlie0033
Joined 15 Aug 2006
3 posts
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I have found a really good place for help and parts with all rover cars, they were really good. They have a web site http://www.worldofrover.co.uk and they have a technical help line as well 0870 896 6048, they are really good!!!
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