bike engined fiat

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bike engined fiat 5 June 2006, 8:22 AM

The Marsh Joined 23 Aug 2005 3 posts

Eney = any
Trane = train

Come on, this is basic stuff.

I did sort of suggest a quad bike rear end some time ago, the jobs already been designed right.

bike engined fiat 5 June 2006, 9:41 PM

MIKE Joined 12 May 2005 31 posts

I feel it is commendable to keep the back seat. That is what I am attmpting to do. Two ways to do this come to mind.

The first is to face the engine backwards in the car (exhaust manifold towards the rear bumper and build a chain drive diff that will reverse the output direction ie run the outside of the chain on the outside the next sprocket and then to an idler sprocket. The output is connected to your axles and then to an idler sprocket. The obvious benefit is one chain and better (imo) orientation of exhaust and controlls.

The next is to orient the engine forward, like on the motorcycle, and run the output back to a shaft and then forward to custom stub axles. Three chains on this set up but the engine is oriented correctly. The drawback, we'll see if all the chains stay on as the suspension moves.

I am doing the latter as it seemed to fit the 500 better.

Good luck,

Mike

bike engined fiat 5 June 2006, 9:49 PM

MIKE Joined 12 May 2005 31 posts

Try here for a Harley to VW adapter: http://www.bikeweekreport.com/harleycar/

bike engined fiat 7 June 2006, 1:30 AM

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bike engined fiat 8 June 2006, 9:41 PM

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bike engined fiat 9 June 2006, 2:06 AM

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bike engined fiat 14 June 2006, 7:42 PM

MIKE Joined 12 May 2005 31 posts

R/

Mike

bike engined fiat 14 June 2006, 11:13 PM

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bike engined fiat 20 June 2006, 11:46 AM

Aprilia 500 Joined 23 May 2006 1 posts

Just wondering if your 126 passed the MOT. it looks really good too bad the website won't let me see any of the pictures. hope it did pass cos im building a similar thing using a fiat 500 and an aprilia v twin 1000. its quite a long engine so it'll have to be mounted next to me. also sprocket is on the left hand side so im goin to have to use left hand drive. bit of an ass but should make overtaking interesting.

bike engined fiat 27 June 2006, 3:18 PM

MIKE Joined 12 May 2005 31 posts

bike engined fiat 4 July 2006, 10:36 PM

MIKE Joined 12 May 2005 31 posts

http://et1eck.tripod.com/gsxr_fiat_500

Enjoy

R/

Mike

bike engined fiat 7 July 2006, 4:33 PM

logan Joined 7 Jul 2006 2 posts

Just wondered how you were getting on Mike, i am especially interested in whether you have set up you chain drive as i have a hunch that you may have issues around keeping the chain mounted with this configuration.

Anyway, all the best...look forward to hearing more on this project.

Stewart

bike engined fiat 9 July 2006, 10:34 AM

MIKE Joined 12 May 2005 31 posts

Welcome.

I am coming along good. Last couple of days involved cutting and welding rims. Good news, 175/50 - 13's will fit back spacing seicento wheel centers 12 mm out. The tires look massive on a 500. Shifter is hooked to the origional 500 unit, clutch and accelerator to the origional 500 pedals, Injection pump and regulator in the 500 fuel tank. Injection harness is in the mockup stage, but, fully functional.

Now for the chain drive. I do not know for certain it will work. The axles do cause the sprockets to twist. I am optomistic. Microsprints (race cars) seem to be able to live with this twisting by adding disks on either side of the sprocket o keep it from derailling. I have set the sprockets in the chain and have observed what I think is an ample amount of twist before it binds. The amount of twisting is controllable by controlling movement of the suspension. If I need more movement I may be able to shave the sprocket.

Thank you for your thoughts,

r/

bike engined fiat 9 July 2006, 1:07 PM

logan Joined 7 Jul 2006 2 posts

I think the way u are setting up is by far the best way to go layout wise etc and the more i think about it, i think you should get away with the chain set up especially if you go for stiffer shocks and shorter springs.

Please please keep us posted - cant wait to see the final result.

Cheers.

bike engined fiat 9 July 2006, 9:24 PM

MIKE Joined 12 May 2005 31 posts

The engine is back in, sprockets are keyed in place, some fresh paint is sprayed and the car will be ready to roll next week.

This weeks project is to buy a golf cart starter that will pull double duty as a starter (reverse motor) and a generator. It will be belt driven off the jack shaft.

http://search.ebay.com/starter-generator_W0QQfromZR40

R/

bike engined fiat 17 July 2006, 5:51 PM

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bike engined fiat 23 July 2006, 7:49 AM

MIKE Joined 12 May 2005 31 posts

bike engined fiat 23 July 2006, 3:04 PM

MIKE Joined 12 May 2005 31 posts

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/1c99df6d-......80700a553bf.htm

I still have alot of work ahead of me.

r/

bike engined fiat 29 July 2006, 11:13 AM   Edited by Andy 29 July 2006, 11:15 AM

Andy Joined 29 Jul 2006 2 posts

bike engined fiat 29 July 2006, 11:50 AM

Ja99a Joined 24 Feb 2005 22 posts

I f your going to use the original swing arms like I have it will become complicated to get it to fit, I suggest you start by thinking of binning these.

If I was to start again, and I may I would sit the engine above a drive shaft and use a sealed chain drive diff. I think they use the old ford atlas and weld up all the holes filling it with grease.

good luck....

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