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talbot express motorhome
1 September 2009, 11:24 PM
TGO
Joined 1 Sep 2009
8 posts

my apologies . this is a test post . have experienced problems

talbot express motorhome
2 September 2009, 7:04 AM
-  Edited by suntrecker 2 September 2009, 7:08 AM
suntrecker
Joined 8 Mar 2009
48 posts

Many thanks Steve for putting the info on this page. I'm sure we all will find it very usefull. Regards, Suntrecker

talbot express motorhome
2 September 2009, 10:25 AM
Mike
Joined 18 Oct 2007
16 posts

My first post went into the wrong area so I'll try again.
I own a 2.5 litre diesel Executive(65,000 miles) and in 2 years since it was serviced have done 6000 miles. When topping up the oil I noticed the oil was black - is it time for a service and if so how often should it be done? A friend has also suggested putting an additive in the next tank of petrol to help clean the injectors - is this advisable? Anyone any thoughts please & thanks for any help.

talbot express motorhome
2 September 2009, 11:36 AM
Marcle Leisure
Joined 5 Feb 2008
17 posts

>-----Previous Message-----
>From: kristofa
>Posted: Tuesday, 01 September 2009
>Hello,
>
>I have an autosleeper Ramble GL. Looking to re-carpet the van. Just wondering if anyone has attempted this and if you have any top tips - like how do you get the carpet to bend around/over the front internal wheel arches. Also any good sources for the right type of carpet.
>
>Cheers
>
>Kristofa

Finding off-the-shelf fitted carpets for these vans is not easy, however it is possible to do the re-carpeting yourself. The wheel arches are the most difficult area. You can obtain 'stretchable' carpet that you can stretch in to shape, then glue it down. Unfortunately this carpet tends to be light duty. With regards to the remaining areas, simply cut cardboard to shape, then use these to cut your carpet. After cutting we take ours to a local independent carpet warehouse who has an edging sewing machine that binds the carpet edging to stop it fraying (Just like the pro carpets). The edging is charges by the length of edging done.

To hold the carpet in place, you can obtain poppers to sew on the corners etc. the fix the other half to the floor. Job done and very tidy.

HTH


talbot express motorhome
2 September 2009, 8:41 PM
TGO
Joined 1 Sep 2009
8 posts

Hi folks. Yet another newby. Aint it funny how life changes. Never wanted a campervan or motorhome then along came the wifes 50th (never could resist those eyes) Now we're the happy owners of a 1984 TE autohomes camelot 2ltr. (didn't think i'd say that before i was 60) Bought it from Overton (He's posted on here a few times) .Being a decent sort he even converted it to gas . Also family so i got it for a good price which being a fellow Yorkshireman he reminds me of occasionally. It came with a few problems (dont they all ) but gradually over the 18months we've had it we have sorted some of them. With the very generous help of many on this site if you did but know it (Oh. the hours iv'e spent backtrackin this thread) . So a belated thank you to all. I hope in the furure that i can be of some help to you lot . Not sure how for although i can weild a spanner with some of you my technical knowledge is as limited as a TE in a drag race.(wouldn't that be a sight worth crossing the mother in law to see) Anyway for now the one bit of information i can pass on which may cheer some poor soul is that the rear engine mounts are available from Q.H. for £20 and £30 ( this news happily plagiarise from jktowers) regards to all Phil TGO


talbot express motorhome
2 September 2009, 9:46 PM
Daryl
Joined 6 Jan 2008
5 posts

Hi, a newbie here. I bought an H reg Talbot Autosleeper Rambler a few months ago. I was lucky enough to get a warranty with it, however the van has been back time and again to sort out a fridge problem. The fridge just does not work on gas or hook up. It cools down ok on leisure battery when we are driving. It has now had a replacement fridge put in by the dealer who said this replacement is working perfectly. However, we have tried it on gas today, left for a few hours and not even a slight dip in temp. Anyone got any ideas please. It is getting frustrating now, we are having to take a coolbox with us which is a pain. Thanks.

talbot express motorhome
3 September 2009, 0:40 AM
-  Edited by dhallows 3 September 2009, 0:42 AM
dhallows
Joined 24 Sep 2008
25 posts

Hi everyone,

Just when I thought I had the motorhome sorted, many of you will remember the saga of blown engine, replacement to petrol from diesel, then having probs with insurance and DVLA, then after getting it back from garage it almost immediately broke down, garage faults which they put right, well last Thursday it was holiday time.

First long weekend away in Van since getting it back (hadn't used the van, only to drive it back from garage and a test run), and the only holiday for this year, I went to Hertford. Booked into the camping site there and went off to Stevenage cinema to see a film. On the way back to the site, guess what, it broke down. Typical.

Got the breakdown out (took over an hour), who at first sent just a recovery vehicle to small for the van and no mechanic. Had to wait another 1h and 15 mins until a bigger recovery vehicle came, by then it was dark and had to be taken back home.

Got them out again in the morning, and was told the fuel wasn't getting to the carb, probably pump (although new) to take it to my local garage who said they would get one in. Later that day I went back and was told that the old pump was OK but fuel not getting to the pump, and unable to do anything until after the weekend.

Holiday ruined.

Spoke to garage yesturday who now say it was an electrical fault, a brake in one of the wires, stopping the engine getting a spark.

They say that the reason no fuel was getting to the carb was because when the engine doesn't get a spark or turn over properly, it doesn't push the push rod enough into the pump.

I've never heard of this before and wondered if it could be true, as my thought was that when fitting the pipes to the tank when they did the engine change, they mixed the outlet pipe with the return feed for which the diesel needed, thus when getting to a half a tank of fuel it stopped pumping.

Anybody know if the push rod for the pump doesn't work properly when the engine doesn't get a spark?

Thanks, and sorry for the long post.


talbot express motorhome
3 September 2009, 9:26 AM
Dazza
Joined 1 Sep 2009
5 posts

Thanks SteveJ, wow that website has a wealth of information. I am busily through it all - very useful.

Thanks also to Usher and Duke of Earl for your responses.

Regards,
Dazza


talbot express motorhome
3 September 2009, 11:25 AM
spook
Joined 5 Mar 2009
48 posts

Hi dhallows. Your theory about the petrol supply being connected to the diesel return sounds good to me. I cant imagine how an engine turning over but not starting shortens the length of a push rod/lever. I recall a time when I wanted the tracking adjusted on my then Hi-Ace Rio Grande, the 'TECHNICIAN' undid the pinch bolts on the clamps of the split sleeve adjuster, applied a set of stilsons to turn the sleeve, nothing happened due to stilsons effectively re-clamping the sleeve. The 'TECHNICIAN' then announced in a world weary way, " Nah, seized up mate". You've got to laugh at some of these 'exerts'.
Best of luck. Spook.

talbot express motorhome
3 September 2009, 1:51 PM
Mr B
Joined 3 Sep 2008
131 posts

Hi Daryl,
Welcome to the forum, I take it that you have put the 3 way rocker switch on the fridge to the middle for use with the gas and that the gas switch which is under the sink on my Highway is turned on? Please excuse me if it looks like I am teaching you to suck eggs but there is no mark on the switch for gas it just shows mains to the top and battery to the bottom on mine.
Regards,
Chris

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talbot express motorhome
4 September 2009, 2:21 AM
awt
Joined 3 Aug 2006
200 posts

Hi Hallows. If you drove it from the garage home and then to the cinema how could the pipes be connected wrong. On the petrol engined TE there are flow and a return pipes. The pump does not stop working as it is fully mechanical it just cycles petrol back to the tank.The problem stopping petrol entering the carb is most likely down to the electromagnetic 'cut off' valve at the carb.It's a small cylinder on the right of the carb (as you look at it) with a single wire connected to it.
The cut off valve is only open when the ignition is on thus allowing petrol into the carb, when you switch off the engine the valve closes to stop any flooding of the carb. Any petrol under pressure from the pump then returns to the tank via the petrol return pipe
That wire breaks quite often at the spade connection or it gets pulled off by accident. Mechanic's don't push it on far enough or it just comes loose. How ever it comes off the result is always the same, engine stops or will not start due to fuel starvation.
To check if the wire is live, disconnect it from the valve and use a test lamp or meter, with the ign on you should get a reading/light on. If you get a reading and still no petrol in the carb its a faulty valve. TAKE GREAT CARE WHEN DOING THIS AS THERE IS A RISK OF SPARKS WHICH COULD IGNITE THE PETROL FUMES.
Hope this helps AWT


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talbot express motorhome
4 September 2009, 1:52 PM
SteveJ
Joined 10 Jan 2008
251 posts

dhallows:


Ref Carb Fuel Valve with single wire attachemnt on side of Solex Carb:

This is called an Idle Cut Off value. As AWT says a 12v electromagnet and will prevent it from starting. Most likely what they are referring to.
The valve does not cut off the fuel supply to the carb as such. What it does it block the fuel feed to the idle circuit within the carb. This circuit is also in use during low-throttle openings. The valve is designed to prevent over-running as no fuel can be drawn in through this circuit when the valve is not energised (via the ignition).

The Idle Cut Off valve does not prevent the engine running on higher throttle positions when the engine uses the main jet circuit. It contributes to low/mid throttle loads so does have a significant effect here and a failure would pretty much render the vehicle undrivable as a result.

To test (1) with the ignition on pull the wire on/off the idle cut off valve. You should here a distinct click as the valve activates, (2) With your hand on the trottle on the carb take the engine to about 2500RPM and hold it there, now pull off the idle cut off wire. As the engine is coasting in a high RPM no-load situation it will be partially using the idle circuit so will start to stumble. Open the throttle wider and the engine will pick up again, albeit running rougher than usual, and you can hold it here on the throttle.

Has the garage explained which wire was "stopping the engine getting a spark" as they put it as it won't be the Idle cut off wire (nothing to do with ignition except that is where it draws its power from so fuse would blow if earthed).


Ref Return Pipe: I don't have details of the tank but assume the assumption here is that the return pipe enteres the top of the tank and protrudes into it a certain distance, or that the fuel system was filled up the filler pipe meaning the fuel level was actually above that of the top of the tank? If this is the case and the tank was full then theoretically the engine could draw fuel up the return pipe until the level in the tank drops below the level of the pipe in the tank. Maybe some one who has removed thier tank would be able to comment on whether the return pipe protrudes into it.


Ref Fuel Pump/Supply: As has been stated the mechanical fuel pump is driven by a pushrod from a cam and it self-primes and pumps whenever the engine turns irrespective of whether the engine is firing or not. It doesn't matter if the whole system is dry (which is highly unlikely as (with return pipe) the pump is contiuously pumping from tank to return irrespective of whether the carb is drawing fuel). A dry carb will take less than 5 seconds to fill and start (I do this a lot running on LPG most of the time). Nothing electrical there. As the garage initially said the fuel was not reaching the pump one could consider if the pick up pipe from the tank is blocked. This does happen sometimes due to debirs in the tank and the only option is to clean the pipe and clean/replace the tank. It may be intermittent.

Let us know if it was the Idle Cut Off wire they were referring to, and if not what. I hope that is what it is, and not something they did whilst looking for an intermittent fuel supply issue.
Best wishes,
Steve


talbot express motorhome
4 September 2009, 2:41 PM
Dazza
Joined 1 Sep 2009
5 posts

Hi All,

Thank you for your responses to my previous post.

As I said I've bought a Talbot Express 1000 P (1971cc) First Reg 1991.
It's done 102500 miles and I'm about to take it on an 3-4 month trip though Europe. I want to make sure that everything is ship shape before heading off.

Could anyone recommend a good and reasonably priced mechanic in London - I live in East London.

From my previous post about gear shift problems I'm guessing that the rear engine mount needs to be replaced as well the O-Ring at the base of the gear stick . Could anyone give me an idea of how much work is involved in changing these and a ball park on how much it might cost so that I know if I'm getting ripped off. I'd guess that the O ring is pretty straight forward but the Engine mount is more complicated?

I've not really owned a car or van before so I'm pretty green when it comes to these things.

Also, The van conversion is an Autosleeper. It has a Valiant Boiler (which is leaking but I should be able to get that sorted), 3 way fridge, Shower cubicle, and just above the sink there is 1 UK powerplug hole. Hoping this setup is pretty standard so that my question makes sense...

The fridge runs off battery power only when the ignition is on, so when stationary I run it off gas or mains.

The water pump and lights work (when turned on at the control panel) off the leisure battery no worries.

The power plug only seems to work off mains. Does this seem right or should it also run off the leisure battery? Will I need to make some changes to get it working off the battery?

Finally, There is a round 12V plughole (a bit bigger than a TV Ariel plughole) What do I use this for?

Sorry if my questions seem a bit simple/stupid, your responses are appreciated.

Many Thanks,
Dazza


talbot express motorhome
4 September 2009, 3:25 PM
spitfire1970
Joined 18 Aug 2008
89 posts


Hi dazza

Fridge - yes you are correct!

Water pump/ lights - correct!

Mains socket - this will only run when mains lead plugged in as it's for running 248 volt appliances.
Don't change it! Everything else on van is 12 volt so will run through leisure battery. Your zig unit when you are plugged into mains will also charge the leisure battery.

The small socket sounds like a 12 volt point to run off other appliances that are 12 volt.

Good luck!

Dave


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talbot express motorhome
4 September 2009, 4:48 PM
dhallows
Joined 24 Sep 2008
25 posts

Hi thanks Spook, AWT, SteveJ

The Recovery mechanic (not from the local garage, but my insurance) took the pipe of the carb to see if it was pumping fuel and when turning the engine over it didn't. He took the pump off and checked the push rod and pump. The push rod was working when turning over the engine, the mechanic thought it could be the pump, but wasn't absolutly sure as he didn't have any piping to try and suck up fuel from the tank. He then took the motorhome to the local garage that did the work for the engine change, they also couldn't get any fual through. They even connected an independant electric pump, and still no fuel. Then said they couldn't do it until after the weekend. The end of Monday I rang to be told it was done.

Why I think it could be the switched pipes is because, the first time it broke down with no fuel getting through, it was at exactly half a tank full. Mind you there were other faults like the fuel solanoid that was left unscrewed, the coil terminals taht are bolted on were left undone and the fuel tanks pipe was squashed under the tank. These were supposed to have been corrected.

So of course not very happy when I broke down again with exactly half a tank of fuel. The engine suddenly had no power and just cut out.

The local garage, when quized over the no fuel to the carb, gave the electrical fault and not pushing the rod on the machanical pump enough. When I asked about why no fuel with the electric one they tried, they said it was one that was lying about under a bench that they found didn't work, although I heard it spinning away when connected to the battery.

It just seems like they are trying to get themselves out of trouble by saying an electrical fault and not their incompitence. Especially when they got defensive when I questioned them over the electric pump, and said I was suggesting they were lying. I wasn't, I was trying to understand why, but it has led me to believe they are lying.



talbot express motorhome
5 September 2009, 6:31 PM
phil
Joined 31 May 2007
29 posts

hi .i had the same problem with my fridge .wasnt getting cold .i took it out and turned it upside down for a couple of hrs .and cleaned the jet etc .put it back then left it for awhile to settle down it works fine now apparantly the gas in the fridge forms crystals when not used for a while bye moving the gas it dissolves them ..good luck ...phil

talbot express motorhome
6 September 2009, 8:51 PM
TGO
Joined 1 Sep 2009
8 posts

Hi folks. Just a couple of queries if you have time. Looking through the Peter Russek manual in General Maintenance section 'Engine oil check' he states "Use only engine oil for diesel engines".Now am i being thick or as this manual covers both petrol and diesel and no distinction is made is he advocating diesel engine oil for petrol engine models? If this is the case do we know why? Also, running on L.P.G. i've just done a 150 mile trip (no motorways but many hills in Ribblesdale) and returned 16 m.p.g. Is this good and if not how could it be improved. Thanks. Regards. Phil TGO

talbot express motorhome
6 September 2009, 9:16 PM
SteveJ
Joined 10 Jan 2008
251 posts

TGO, Ref LPG Mpg
IMO 16mpg on LPG is entirely reasonable for a coachbuilt in this environment.
Regards, Steve (feeling somewhat acronimistic tonight :)

talbot express motorhome
6 September 2009, 9:26 PM
TGO
Joined 1 Sep 2009
8 posts

To George Hook I believe i owe you an apology George. When i read on jktowers (gearbox section) the info regarding the rear engine mount i thought it worth posting. Hadn't realised he'd already atributed the info. to you on his engine mounting section.Oh well next time i'll read the whole thing. Just a newbie being keen i guess. Regards Phil TGO

talbot express motorhome
6 September 2009, 10:14 PM
TGO
Joined 1 Sep 2009
8 posts

To Stevej Thanks for the opinion. Would it be the same as mine is the Autohomes camelot conversion? And if not what do you recomend to improve the mpg? (by the way bloody good word acronimistic )

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