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pram restoration
13 October 2009, 10:42 PM
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mj
Joined 23 May 2009
12 posts
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hi nannynoonoo wasnt me who was trying to remove wheel im sure her name was marge cheers maggie
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pram restoration
13 October 2009, 10:49 PM
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classycanopies
Joined 24 Sep 2006
115 posts
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Hi Lynn and those of you wanting to know about wheels fitting other chassis.If I tell you that old SilverCross wheels won't fit new SilverCross prams you can see the problem! The only way is to try them on the chassis you want to use. I've taken wheels off an early 1950s SilverCross and they don't fit newer models but they will fit other makes, it all depends on the width of the axle. Sometimes the hubs are wider than the axle and obviously they won't do, but if you have a wheel which fits the axle but leaves a lot of space before you put the split pin in, then just pack the space on either side of the wheel with washers, and also make sure you use plenty of grease when you put wheels back on, and never put wheels back on a rusty axle, always sandpaper them down and use plenty of grease before you put the wheels back on. My Bird of Paradise has 24" wheels which I bought on ebay, I have no idea what pram they came off, and the 18" wheels are off a Swan pram but they fit so I'm happy! Sometimes you will find a sort of "knob" at the end of an axle. This will mean that you need quick release wheels which slide over the knob and click into place, no other wheels will fit that axle because there is nothing to stop them falling off. I found this out very early on in my collecting days when I bought a pram from someone in Emsworth and when the lady wheeled it out of the house the wheels just fell off. She said, oh dear, they just need the split pins putting back in - Dopey Daisy here believed her!!! I still have that chassis, it reminds me to check things out a bit more carefully. More often than not, axles have the little hole at the end which takes the split pin and these are the easiest to find wheels for, the only problem could be that sometimes the rod used for the axle is a bigger diameter, but they are few and far between. Hope this helps. Pat
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pram restoration
13 October 2009, 11:11 PM
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Nannynoonoo
Joined 15 Feb 2009
217 posts
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Sorry Maggie, must be another senior moment! They seem to come along much more frequently these days lol. Judith
Marge, did you manage to get your wheels off? Hope you have had success. Judith
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pram restoration
13 October 2009, 11:13 PM
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shezzy
Joined 27 Aug 2008
611 posts
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What chassis are you refering to? folding or strapped type, i have folding silvercross and marmet chassis here that i can try tfitting the wheeels to and vice versa to see if they fit. will try silvercross to marmet tomorrow as its to late now.
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pram restoration
14 October 2009, 2:39 PM
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John
Joined 21 Sep 2009
9 posts
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Houseofprams,
Just seeing if I can attach a photo. I have fitted a plastic nut to hold the brake handle on for now.
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pram restoration
14 October 2009, 2:45 PM
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Houseofprams
Joined 18 Apr 2008
95 posts
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Hi John, have found the domed nut (foc) you need and will post off tomorrow with the apron lift. Tina
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pram restoration
14 October 2009, 3:26 PM
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lynn
Joined 9 Jun 2008
84 posts
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hi shezzy :) im the person who asked about swopping wheels on silvercross to marmet . i was refering to folding chssis . lynn.
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pram restoration
14 October 2009, 10:05 PM
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elaine
Joined 27 Sep 2009
10 posts
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hi kathy, i'm posting a photo of the streng. hopefully someone will recognise it, elaine
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pram restoration
15 October 2009, 3:16 AM
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prams2c
Joined 19 Aug 2007
185 posts
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Elaine, I love your Streng pram! Can you take a photo of the side of the body at eye level? I'd love to see more of the pattern on it. Kathy
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pram restoration
15 October 2009, 9:19 AM
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jen59
Joined 12 Jul 2009
176 posts
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H Pat, wanted to run this one by you to see what you think about it.
I was looking at the wheel i had in the washer, and i thought what a waste to throw it out as i didn't have anything else it fitted and i just wanted the tyre from it for another pram.Thing is, it is in good nick.
Then i came up with this one, if i de spoked the wheels changed the middles from SX middles and put them back together again,USING THE OSNATH MIDDLES it should then fit on the osnath? what do you think? jen
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pram restoration
15 October 2009, 10:55 AM
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elaine
Joined 27 Sep 2009
10 posts
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hi kathy, i 've sent another pic showing the tassle. glad you like it, i haven't made my mind up yet! elaine
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pram restoration
15 October 2009, 11:47 AM
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Angela
Joined 15 Jun 2009
15 posts
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hi Pat i got some wheels for my york but it has a bigger axle with a nut,i did not notice this untill the hub caps were taken off even through the frame is the same as my duram rose in my pic , still they will do another pram some time, the york wheels i might get rechromed but for now its one of my rally prams. i always look now before i buy wheels as untill you take them off and look at the axle you cannot be sure about the fit, still you learn more as the yrs tick by , and thanks for the info you gave me about my hooding fabric Angela
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pram restoration
15 October 2009, 2:08 PM
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prams2c
Joined 19 Aug 2007
185 posts
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Elaine, does your pram have a heavy woven fabric? I didn't realize that it had the cane as part of the design. Many of the older Gessleins have something similar. Kathy
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pram restoration
15 October 2009, 4:05 PM
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elaine
Joined 27 Sep 2009
10 posts
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hi kathy, it is a beige tweed material with dark brown flecks in it. the cane is dark brown. the chassis and tyres are brown but the wheels are chrome. i added another pic for you, elaine
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pram restoration
15 October 2009, 4:12 PM
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elaine
Joined 27 Sep 2009
10 posts
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sorry wrong pic, elaine!
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pram restoration
15 October 2009, 10:51 PM
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rosiep
Joined 24 Apr 2009
4 posts
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Hi Jen. i know we talked about this earlier, but i have just thought, the hub would have to have the same ammount of holes so that the same spoke pattern could be followed ? AND being new to this, do they differ?
or are they all bog standard ? It would certainly make things sooo much easier if this is the case. Hope Pat has the answer!
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pram restoration
15 October 2009, 11:27 PM
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shezzy
Joined 27 Aug 2008
611 posts
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hi lynn havent yet tried the wheels didnt get time i will post the results asapsorry been so busy didnt get round to trying them.
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pram restoration
15 October 2009, 11:30 PM
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shezzy
Joined 27 Aug 2008
611 posts
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Rosiep....Yep the wheels would have to have the same amount of holes as the hubs to fit the spokes...well pointed out
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pram restoration
15 October 2009, 11:35 PM
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jen59
Joined 12 Jul 2009
176 posts
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good thinking watson!lol
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pram restoration
18 October 2009, 5:55 PM
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lynn
Joined 9 Jun 2008
84 posts
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hi everyone :) iv just bought this pram of a well known auction site . its a marmet could amyone tell me anythig about it ie year and model also what size wheels it needs and how to remove stubban dirt c photo . also does anyone have an apron they no longer want or need iv searched ebay but cannot find 1 . all info appreciated thanks lynn.
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