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Worcester 240 - no hot water
22 October 2007, 5:40 PM
gs-titan
Joined 22 Oct 2007
6 posts

Hi,
I have similar problem to no hot water on Worcester 240 as is my boiler.
The heating is fine when the boiler stat is set to low one - , if the stat is turned up the boiler cuts out and the cut out switch has to be reset, the same happens with hot the water, luke warm water then as you reduce pressure by turning tap the cut out switch activates again.
The boiler works fine on low , when hot tap is turned on boiler fires up as normal but the water is only just luke warm. Please has any body got any ideas out there I could do with a bit of help.
I have fitted a lot of bathrooms etc. also some Central Heating system boilers in the past but don't know a lot about Combi Boilers.
I would appreciate any ideas.
Thanks gs-titan

Worcester 240 - no hot water
23 October 2007, 9:29 AM
MARK
Joined 23 Oct 2007
5 posts

Hi.
I have recently drained my radiators and replaced one.
The pump is fine. radiators up stairs are fine and hot. the ones down stairs have a slow flow of cold water not hot. can anyone help.

Worcester 240 - no hot water
23 October 2007, 10:39 AM
gs-titan
Joined 22 Oct 2007
6 posts

Hi Mark,
You will most probably have air in the pipe runs to ground floor rads, you will need to draw off a bit of water from the feed & return pipe, this is where pipe enters the valve at the bottom of cold rads, to do this place a towel or small bowl to catch water, usually this is about a couple of pints or so. I take it you have already bled rads from the top in the normal way.
Good luck about ten mins per rad.
gs

Worcester 240 - no hot water
23 October 2007, 12:45 PM
MARK
Joined 23 Oct 2007
5 posts

Cheers for that. i will have a go tonight.

Worcester 240 - no hot water
24 October 2007, 9:49 AM
MARK
Joined 23 Oct 2007
5 posts

Hi. Im affraid that did not work. there is a lot of pressure there though. what about if i shut off the rads up stairs will that force the hot water to the down stairs.
!!!!!


Worcester 240 - no hot water
24 October 2007, 10:09 AM
Al
Joined 30 Jul 2007
30 posts

Hi Bob, just thought I'd let you know that I bled the heat exchanger and it was completly full of air. Thanks for all your help, hot water and heating a plenty. A few cock ups on my part, but it seems ok now.

Al

Worcester 240 - no hot water
24 October 2007, 10:15 AM
MARK
Joined 23 Oct 2007
5 posts

Hi AL. I assume your replying to me !!!
How do you do that then.
cheers mark.

Worcester 240 - no hot water
25 October 2007, 10:31 AM
gs-titan
Joined 22 Oct 2007
6 posts

Hi Mark,
If your heating is on and you keep it on, if your rads upstairs are hot when you undue the pipe a little before valve (if there is air inside it will come out in intermittent splashes) on the downstairs rads the water from the boiler takes the shortest way out so it must have got hot when you released the pipe.
If it got hot and you then did the pipe on the other end of rad and that got hot water through if it did not continue to circulate after, it could be the pump or a further problem. I don't know if your heating was working before correctly if it was and you replaced the rad and pipes as it was before it is most likely air in pipes. gs

Worcester 240 - no hot water
25 October 2007, 1:51 PM
gs-titan
Joined 22 Oct 2007
6 posts

Hi Mark,
Yes it will help it has to be air in the system, so closing areas/rads off that are free from air will help. gs

Worcester 240 - no hot water
25 October 2007, 1:56 PM
MARK
Joined 23 Oct 2007
5 posts

I got some heat threw last night. not much. i think it will eventually start moving before winter.
cheers
mark

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Worcester 240 - no hot water
4 November 2007, 10:48 AM
-  Edited by ray 4 November 2007, 11:05 AM
ray
Joined 7 Dec 2006
24 posts

Hi
I have a worcester 240 combi.
I have no central heating.
The hot water is working fine.
The central heating doesnt want to come on.
When i put a heating demand on the pump fires up as normal but the boiler doesnt ignite.
I can sometimes get it to come on if i wedge the left microswitch on the diverter valve, leave it wedged on for about 5 mins (any longer would obviously overheat the boiler and go to a cutout stage)
When i remove the wedge the boiler seems to stay on and heating is ok for a while.
I have a new diverter valve on order but i am not sure if this will cure the problem concerning no central heating. When the hot taps are open there is hot water a plenty and the plunger on the diverter valve operates as normal.
Any ideas before i strip out and replace the diverter valve ?

Worcester 240 - no hot water
28 November 2007, 9:48 AM
Barkers
Joined 28 Nov 2007
2 posts

I have a Worcester 28 Cdi and it is doing pretty much what all the threads are saying their boilers are doing. CH is fine but HW cuts out at an alarming rate, especially when in the shower!! What are your thoughts and suggestions on how to fix this annoying problem (I hope it's not terminal)

Worcester 240 - no hot water
2 January 2008, 4:29 PM
Dan Dare
Joined 2 Jan 2008
2 posts

Yep its yer diapragm in ya diverter valve

Worcester 240 - no hot water
4 January 2008, 1:57 PM
Barkers
Joined 28 Nov 2007
2 posts

Thanks Dan. I bought a replacement unit and fan as it was making a racket and had them fitted by a pro (well he wanter money) as was too complicated for me to take on but it now works a treat. Am hopeful the boiler will last a few years longer now.


Worcester 240 - no hot water
8 January 2008, 9:55 AM
Al
Joined 30 Jul 2007
30 posts

My mistake, thought I'd solved my hot water problem here after reading the discussion threads. Wotta mistaka to makka....

Anyway, changed the diaphragm, bled the heat exchanger and rads, but no hot water when the heating is off, which I thought was very strange. But, this means I am now really confused, can anyone help???

Alan.


Worcester 240 - no hot water
8 January 2008, 5:18 PM
gs-titan
Joined 22 Oct 2007
6 posts

Hi,
It is most likely the spring mechanism at the flow end of the Diverter valve at the 1" outlet end, it will be either stuck or it will again most likely be broke.
It is only a 1/2 hour job if the valve is off to fit the replacement bits the problem will be getting the bits to replace, I have been quoted £28 for the washers etc. a complete rip off.
The complete diverter Valves brand new including micro switch is about £23.25 + Vat & Del approx £33.50, from a place called B.E.S plumbing supplies (Google it for net sales) or a firm on ebay sell them free del for approx £34.50. Just put in Diverter Valves
The boiler will have to be drain off to fit this valve, they is normally to shut off valves on the flow & return pipes, not a difficult job if you are competent at general plumbing.
A gas boiler fitter will charge you up to £130 for a valve plus fitting normally about £250 total, it is not much harder to do than the Diaphragm. I wish you good luck, I had the very same problem with my 240 with every body saying it has to be the diaphragm wish really is not true but it has to be the Diverter Valve that is faulty.
If you do decide to purchase a new valve ask for a set of fibre washer for the valve plus a couple of O-rings for the sliding fitting to heat exchanger.
I have found out the hard way if the diaphragms gone the Diverter Valve is best replaced then you know it can't possibly be the Diverter Valve you will save time and money that way. Graham

Worcester 240 - no hot water
8 January 2008, 5:34 PM
Cliff
Joined 6 Apr 2007
8 posts

HI, I would be grateful if anybody could shed some light on my problem. I am having a problem where I am regularly having to press the reset button or I have no hot water (this is nearly always when I am running the bath). It's a nightmare, start it running - turn away and hey presto - cold bath.
This normally happens on a daily basis. As soon as the reset is depressed, all is well. Occasionally this will happen a couple of times running the same bath.
Has anyone any ideas what could be faulty and if it will be reasonably easy to fix. I have changed the diaphragm a couple of times without any problems.
Thanks for any help.
Cliff

Worcester 240 - no hot water
9 January 2008, 9:33 AM
Al
Joined 30 Jul 2007
30 posts

Cliff, when you say the reset button, do you mean relighting the pilot light. If so, I had a similar problem and it was because the thermostat triggered as the gas in the system heated up and tripped shut the gas to the pilot light. I bled the heat exchanger (its has a bleed valve similar to a tyre), and all was ok.

Alan.

Worcester 240 - no hot water
9 January 2008, 11:24 AM
Dan Dare
Joined 2 Jan 2008
2 posts

HI

You can usually eliminate the diaphragm by checking to see if it makes the micro-switch when the tap is turned on . Once the switch is made the boiler should go through its ignition secuence ie. fan run,gas valve open then igiition .Try to see at which point it locks out ... Good luck


Dan

Worcester 240 - no hot water
9 January 2008, 5:02 PM
Cliff
Joined 6 Apr 2007
8 posts

Hi Allan, thanks for the response, but the pilot light isn't the problem. On the boiler there is a red reset trip switch which pops up. A quick press down again and it carries on. I will check the heat exchanger this weekend just in case this is the problem.
On the exchanger , where is the bleed valve?
Thanks Again,

Cliff

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