Dejon information
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I am trying to find any information I can about the Dejon 14. I have just purchased one from ebay and would like to know more about it. I dont pick it up until the weekend, but are there any known problems I should be checking for? Has anybody been able to find info about the various models? I have scoured the web and its very hard to find anything other than for sale/want ads. I believe they were made mostly around the late 70's and early 80's. Possibly by Croydon Marine and possibly in Poole. Other than that, I have drawn a blank. Does anyone have an old owners manual stored away in a cupboard or attic perhaps? Any Info appreciated. Thanks
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i have just bought one and i am trying to find out what engine size i should fit, can you help ? steve
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Not much info I'm afraid but I have read that 40hp is the maximum recommended. Even then, some recommend a stiffened transom for that size. Mine has a 20hp Johnson and in the two outings I have had this year (the first in the boat since I bought it!) it managed about 9 knots tops. (GPS recorded) And I dont reckon it got up on to the "plane", but that wasnt helped by big swells in the sea. This is my first decent powered boat so I haven't got the hang of the jargon yet :-) I guess it depends on your requirement, but I would think anything from 20hp up would provide good power.
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Regards, Bill
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I may investigate the planing fins later. We are dogged by problems at the moment. It seem the previous owner left the transom in a right old state. It looks waterlogged and flexes rather more than I am happy with. The fibreglass is in pretty poor nick as well. As if that not enough, the 20hp Johnson ahs an irritating and infrequent missfire, so small that when it occurs, rather than the engine strugglling, it just feels seems to miss a beat, which hits like a bang, almost like you ran over something with the keel. We have felt it in deep water and at various speeds, doesn't happen very much at slow speeds. Top whack so far is about 8 knots, not very impressive :-( Still struggling with weight distribution as well. With the spare out board mounted astern, the transom is very low in the water and was letting in water thru what looks like a bilge pump hole. Maybe they had something plugged in to it previously? Who knows. Anyway, we are going to relocate the rear auxiliary bracket, stow the spare engine in the cabin for better weight distribution and plug up the holes with fibreglass. Then try again, see if we can make a half decent go at it. Would like to spend more time fishing, less time trying to level the boat out and stay afloat :-p Thanks for the info. Vinnie
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I have owned a Dejon for around 10 years and - like you - have had little luck in finding out any information about their background Mine has a strengthwened transom to take a 30hp electric start E venrude, a 2hp Seagull and bathing steps. Ive fitted depth, GPS and radio and also a stereo sound system in the cuddy. She really flies on full throttle and draws some surprised looks, especially from water skiers! As for shortcomings I (apart from being a bit 'tippy') the stransom needed attention - which is when I strenthened it to take the bigger engine. Other than that my Dejon has given me lots of fun. Perhaps there is sufficient intrerest to form a club? Best regards Mike
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I'm Bill. I bought my Dejon last november and did several things to it. It has a 40hp mariner and a 4hp mariner on the back end which appears to carry them without the slightest flexing. It really flies with the 40 on. I clocked it over a short burst at 25.7 knots on the gps. Been in Falmouth last week with it out on the sea. Where there are cross-currents like the mouth of the Fal, it hops and skips about like a cork. On the river away from the tidal estuary it handles like a dream, as long as no-one gets up and moves. Then, there's a lot of correcting to be done. I wired the engine charging system up to a leisure battery so we have nav lights, cabin light, deck light and the depth/fish thing wired to 12v. I would recommend everyone to buy a depth/fish thingy even if, like me, they don't fish. As the Fal is very tidal, it saved our bacon repeatedly. As I was pulling my dejon out of the water, another guy was putting one in. I told him to look at the preloved site so he may join us shortly. We did 140 n. miles in the week and this uses a lot of petrol per mile when forced to go slow. By the way, Falmouth Watersports association are brilliant. The slip is as wide as half a football pitch and they are most helpful. Have you looked at the boatlaunch site. http://www.boatlaunch.co.uk You can add to their descriptions of the slips and facilities etc. as I have already done for Windermere. For once you can pass REAL information. Like you, I have none on the Dejon except there is a little on the Norman Boats appreciation society site. Google them. Regards, Bill
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I also think a club would be good but unless someone volunteers to run it, a mutual appreciation society is easier. Bill
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What do the kids sleep on, the rear seats or in the cabin? I agree with your comments about a club, its difficult enough fining anyone who even admits having one, let alone passing info! I still dont know where you would get a spray shield or forward railing from. While I am whining on, any idea what is involvbed in a transom rebuild? I reckon the transom is basic fiberglass hull with wood sandwiched against both sides. But I am loath to remove the crappy fibreglass that covers it all, in case I cant put it back together again! Does anyone hace any idea what a tear down and refit might involve? Also, is there a picture section to this forum? We could post our floaters there ;-) BV
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The transom on my Dejon started to crack badly along the top seam where the front and back faces of the transom sandwich meet. I Simply cut a piece of marine ply to shape and fitted it above the water line covering the whole of the outside transom section and bolted it through to 2 steel L-section girders running the full width of the tramson, one above the other. The bolts holding the o/board also pass through the whole outer marine ply wall, the transom and the girders making a strong foundation. As I said this supports the diving steps and the two outboards! My Dejon has a plate on either side of the cuddy with the letters SS on them. I have an idea that - at some time - Dejons were made in Harwich as I have an original brochure! They came in two forms: standard (to take engines up to 20hp) and De Luxe (for engines up to 28hp). Looking at the pictures even the de Luxe was pretty basic, the shot shows a guy sitting on the transom holding the tiller of the o/b!! No wheel steering. Perhaps a note in some of the mainstream mags about Dejons may get more interest going including people who were involved in making them???? (I know that Dejons were built for a time by Norman Cruisers) Hope this helps Best of luck Mike
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My transom is a sandwich of 2 sheets fibreglass with marine ply at about 1.25" in the middle. It looks as though it might have had a rebuild at some time as the corners externally show small signs of repair. I've looked inside and can't see where it joins to the timber running inside the gunwhale. There must be a side rail somewhere I would have thought but can't see one. Mike on the discussion has used angle iron across the rear internally to strengthen his and I dare say this could be connected to another piece each side fastened up into the underside of the gunwhale rail timber. That's what I'd do anyway, or will do when my 40 horses rip it off. It would be easy to make a boltable frame like that and it would be very strong without adding a lot of weight. It could be shaped and welded across the back to fit the profile of the top of the transom. _/----\_ The diagram is upside down thanks to the limitations of the keyboard. Rotate this pattern through 180' and then add two side rails to the wing ends, projecting towards you, and screwed to the underside of the gunwhale as I said. Make it all up, have it all galvanized and you're away! A bottom strap welded to the frame could have a small flat tongue projecting maybe 6" into the deck area and screwed down into the keel plate. The boat would break in half before you tore the transom off. I don't see where you can post pics except in the Ads section. Perhaps we can have a word with the site supervisor? Regards, Bill.
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Any chance you could scan the brochure and email me a copy? I can't find any info at all, and such a gem would be worth having a look at :-) We are a bit worried about dismantling the existing transom and being left with a real nasty job to have to complete. But our 20hp is running with a real strange jump/lump every 5-10 seconds at high revs. This flexes the transom horribly and perhaps goes some way to explain it's current poor condition. We did have a very pleasant day out yesterday in the ocean and caught 20 Mackerel for our trouble. Sea was calm and the only problem we had was that the deck was a little small for two people fishing (and catching) at the same time! Regards BV
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Sorry - the Dejon brochure I spoke of is packed away in the loft under tons of other 'stuff' My memory is the transom is a simple GRP layup/marine prly sandwich though I understand your fears about a major rebuild. Could easily become one of those jobs that runs away from you. How the miss fire on the o/b sounds electrical - have you tried replacing the usual plugs and stuff By the way any more thoughts of swapping pics/starting Dejon Newsletter Mike
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There is a boatyard in Shepperton, Middlesex that apparently did quite a lot of work on my boat for the previous owner. They are; Bridge Marine, Thames Meadow, Shepperton Middlesex TW17 8LT 01932 245126 They may know more about Dejons than I do if they are in your neck of the woods. Regards, Bill.
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Regards, Bill.
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Just read Bill's experience with his Dejon flipping on to one side of the hull section. Never had it happen to me (even though I run a 30hp Evenrude) but on one ocassion I left the boat with a 'specilaist' in Newhaven 'cos I was having triuble with the engine. Under test out in Seaford Bay the guy told me later it had happened to him (think he had to change his underwear as a result!) Perhaps the trim tabs would be the answer. Mike PS Is there any way we can post pics of our boats on this site?
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As to the pics, I don't think there's a way on this site to do that but Vinnie and I have exchanged e-mails, so have Dave and I. We have used it to pass advice and pictures about all sorts of things. For the record, mine is [Log in to view email] Regards, Bill.
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