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Re-enamelling a cast iron bath
3 February 2004, 0:00 AM
barney
Joined 3 Feb 2004
1 posts

We want to get our roll top victorian bath re-enamelled and note your comments about how much it will cost and about the 5 year warranty. Do you know of someone who does this? We live in Greenwich, south London.

Re-enamelling a cast iron bath
3 February 2004, 0:00 AM
Andy
Joined 22 Oct 2003
65 posts

Hello Barney.
It is always worth getting victorian
roll tops resurfaced as the are valuable. If it is done properly it will give you years of good use.
As to recommending someone in your
area. Its difficult as there are
more idiots and conmen than genuine
proffessional operators.
One thing i have learned is that in this business more than any other,
you get what you pay for.
The most important things to look for
is "how is the bath surface prepared
for resurfacing"
Ask any potential company this question.
It MUST be prepared with an acid etch
to guarantee any chance of long term
durability. If it is just " We sand the surface down mate !" Then they are
truly amateurs.
Do they offer at least a 5 year warranty. If not dont bother.
Do they use a primer. Believe it or not
some comanies do not even include this,
or offer it a some sort of "premium"
service.
If I were a bit closer to you I would
offer you my services.
Anyway good luck !

Andy

Re-enamelling a cast iron bath
11 February 2004, 0:00 AM
Peter
Joined 11 Feb 2004
1 posts

I have had my roll top iron baqth groit blasted to the bare metal leaving a sandy textured iron. This was to remove many layers of old paint. I dont think it had ever been enamelled.
Any suggestions for the next stage as it is not smooth enough for the final coat ?
Peter.

Re-enamelling a cast iron bath
22 February 2004, 0:00 AM
ST
Joined 22 Feb 2004
1 posts

We have a Belfast sink in a pretty bad condition. The surface is peeling away in many places and we would like it resurfacing/re-enamelling. How much is this likely to cost us - would we have to send it away? We are in East Yorkshire.

Re-enamelling a cast iron bath
22 March 2004, 0:00 AM
cdp
Joined 22 Mar 2004
1 posts

Hi Andy
Are you anywhere near Uxbridge? If so, I have a bath that needs restoring.

Regards
Christine


Re-enamelling a cast iron bath
22 March 2004, 0:00 AM
Andy
Joined 22 Oct 2003
65 posts

Its difficult with those really old baths that were never enamelled in the first place .
You will find that it will develop a surface rust very quickly after sandblasting , this is usual. You must first paint the whole surface with a rust killer such as Kurust ( halfords_)
Than when this has cured , paint (spray is better ) with several coats of a High fill primer . This will help to smooth the surface a little.
You will never get a really smooth surface with this type of bath as it was never intended to be as smooth as the later baths. Good luck,

Re-enamelling a cast iron bath
22 March 2004, 0:00 AM
Andy
Joined 22 Oct 2003
65 posts

Resurfacing a belfast is really only a short term solution , for instance if you are trying to sell a house or if it is very difficult to remove it .
They get such a hard life with pots and pans clattering in them and sharp knives etc that its inevitable that the coating will chip and peel .
You could have it resurfaced again but it would only last a couple of years .
I always point out the limitations of resurfacing belfasts to my customers.
Some companies dont and give false expectations about its sucess.
My advice would be to replace it.
More expensive short term but better long term.

Re-enamelling a cast iron bath
22 March 2004, 0:00 AM
Andy
Joined 22 Oct 2003
65 posts

Hi Christine . Im afraid my days of travelling to uxbridge are over.
I moved to devon so i would never have the pleasure of the M25 again.
Sorry.

Re-enamelling a cast iron bath
29 March 2004, 0:00 AM
Gary - Surrey
Joined 29 Mar 2004
34 posts

Christine. I run a franchise for a company who re-surface most things in Kitchens and Bathrooms. The company is Surface Doctor. Do a search in google and you will find our web site. I dont want to add it here as it may be classed as advertising. I am based in Epsom, Surrey. You can phone the head office on 0800 9 800 900. Thanks.

Re-enamelling a cast iron bath
25 April 2004, 9:22 PM
Hannah
Joined 25 Apr 2004
1 posts

Thanks to all for the views on the Mr Tubby product. Does anyone have any idea how it compares with the slightly more expensive Jaeger Bath Resurfacing Kit, for a cast iron enamel bath?

Hannah

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Re-enamelling a cast iron bath
26 April 2004, 5:30 PM
Delfine
Joined 26 Apr 2004
1 posts

Hi

I have a cast iron bath that needs to be renovated. Has anyone used any product with good results that could recommend? I have found a few adds on the Yellow Pages but in my opinion, when these guys turns up they will bring the same kit that I would have bought for £50 the only difference is that after their work they will charge me £300.

Thanks

Vito

Re-enamelling a cast iron bath
26 April 2004, 9:57 PM
Andy
Joined 22 Oct 2003
65 posts

They will bring the same kit.??
Hmm.. lets see.
1 A small box containing a tin of paint. 4 sheets of sandpaper , a roller . A wooden spatula .

or... Stabilised acid etch . The single most important product needed to resurface a bath , as any professional resurfacer reading this will know , and which is unavailable in all d . i . y kits .
Nutralising solution
Epoxy resin fillers .
£ 750 professional Hvlp spray gun
£ 300 spray turbine
£ 700 professional industrial fume extractor .
2 part epoxy primer (2or3 coats ). no sign of this or any primer in any of the kits available .
2 part urethane or modified acrylic coatings .
15 different tints to make any colour or shade , or to match the white to your existing suite .

And finally , the experience of resurfacing thousands of baths over a ten year period .
Think of it like this . If your car broke down , would you let someone loose on it just because they had a spanner . ... Just being sold a tin of coating is not enough .

Re-enamelling a cast iron bath
28 April 2004, 10:07 PM
mike shmike
Joined 28 Apr 2004
2 posts

I think you're just p11ssed off because you go to all that trouble, & all you need is a £40 diy kit.

Re-enamelling a cast iron bath
29 April 2004, 4:08 PM
Andy
Joined 22 Oct 2003
65 posts

Of course ....you spotted my plan .
Am i trying to sell you anything .?
No .
Am i likely to get any business from you ...?
No .
I only operate locally so i have no axe to grind with anyone on this forum .
People like you , i like .
Please pay your £ 40 for your kit , it will look great when its done .
And in 12 months time when your paying another £ 40 for a pro to take it off again , try to remember that ANONYMOUS guy on the forum .
What warranty do the manufacturers offer , by the way ?


Re-enamelling a cast iron bath
29 April 2004, 6:19 PM
Gary - Surrey
Joined 29 Mar 2004
34 posts

You will never get a really good finish with the DIY kits. And as Andy says it is only a matter of time before it starts flaking off. In fact I am having to go out and strip a bath fairly soon because of someones attempt at DIY and the strip is going to cost extra. Go ahead and try it if it is what you want but dont expect the same finish that you get from the pro's. You do after all get what you pay for..


Re-enamelling a cast iron bath
29 April 2004, 7:51 PM
Kevin
Joined 29 Apr 2004
2 posts

I dont think you have any axe to grind,and it does seem that you know what you are talking about.The problem is I dont live in Devon,in fact I am in wild West Wales,do you know of anybody in this area, is there some sort of professional body that can supply information on reputable restorers?

Re-enamelling a cast iron bath
29 April 2004, 8:44 PM
Gary - Surrey
Joined 29 Mar 2004
34 posts

Kevin. Although they are competitors I believe Renubath have a Welsh operation.
Take a look in Yell.co.uk and do a search for resurfacing/re-enamelling/restoration and you should find a few companies in your area. I dont think there is a professional body you could talk to but just look back in these posts and take the sound advice that Andy has given. Especially look for the 5 year warranty.. Good Hunting..

Re-enamelling a cast iron bath
29 April 2004, 10:45 PM
Andy
Joined 22 Oct 2003
65 posts

What Gary has said is perfectly true .
There is no professional body regulating this business and it is very difficult for the customer to choose a company to go with.
The only reason i have spoken in this forum is as a reaction to the many threads regarding d.i.y kits . We were seeing so many people reccommending them to others whilst having only just done the work themselves . At the risk of repeating myself " it WILL look great when its done (compared to the bath before ) , but it WILL not last anywhere near as long as a proffessional job . Gary is obviously a pro himself and has seen as many of these "strip " jobs as I have .
On the subject of Renubath , all i will say is that as it is a franchise it is possible to get a very good job from 0ne franchisee and not so good from another . I have seen both .
The single most important thing in my opinion , for a person looking to use a resufacing company is to ask for some customer references . I know this is not foolproof but if a company cant provide ANY then they must be really bad .
Sorry if im ranting a bit but d.i.y. kits are my pet hate .

Andy

Re-enamelling a cast iron bath
30 April 2004, 6:53 PM
Kevin
Joined 29 Apr 2004
2 posts

Gary & Andy thanks to you both for replying.I have gone into the Renubath site and they offer a service which they say takes two to three hours and they guarantee for 12mths.They say they use chemicals etc,rub the bath down and then recoat.They say that to re-enamel requires placeing in an oven/kiln.Does this sound pucker too you both.I hope I dont seem like too much of a plonker but as you have both said if a jobs worth doing then its worth doing properly.

Re-enamelling a cast iron bath
30 April 2004, 7:54 PM
bill
Joined 28 Mar 2004
5 posts

Maybe some of the folks who kicked off this communication could come back and give their views on the DIY jobs they completed a few years ago now?

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