Sigma 41
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http://www.speedseal.com/speedseal.html FAYAWAY is a 1983 model. Does anyone know what the wood paneling is below deck? I am refinishing down there, and it looks to me like some light-colored wood that was very lightly stained, so that if you sand through the varnish, you're likely to remove some of the stain and be left with spots that looks sun-bleached. The worst bleached out areas are the posts leading up the companionway ladder, the hand hold on the aft corner of the starboard V-berth and the sill at the entrance to the forward cabin. If I am right about the stain, can any one tell me what stain was used or what will match the parts that are not bleached? Ted Keech
Anyone need a Bukh DV36 gearbox cheap, let me know. Cheers now! Shawn
Planning some long distance short handed so anything to save the 'grind'. Does anybody know what was the level/thickness of insulation around the cold box when built ? Without 'surgery' looks as if difficult to get in there. I think that it will need 'beefing up' for warmer ambient temperatures. David.
We almost installed a Lewmar 42 electric winch on the stbd cabin top to handle the main halyard and, incidentally, the main sheet. The real issue for us is the main halyard, and even more important than getting the sail up, is getting it down. As things now stand we cannot reef with any wind in the sail, and an electric winch is not going to help that. So decided to install an new external mast track instead. We decided on a polyurethane track from Dutchman that fits into the slot in the mast and has cars that ride on it. It cost about one-third the cost of an electric winch. The whole apparatus just arrived yesterday, and we hope to install it over the holiday weekend, although the weather forecast here in SF is pretty bad. I hope that when we have installed it, we will be able to raise the main a lot more easily and to reef going down wind in a blow. A Lewmar 40, 42 or 44 CEST would fit, it appears to me, right where the original winch was installed at the aft end of the cabin top, although it will fill part of the upper forward inboard corner of the aft head. I checked it out pretty carefully and thought that the risk of hitting one's head on the box covering the motor when entering or leaving the head in a seaway was not too great. I still have the overhead liner out from the aft head. If you want any pictures or measurements, let me know. (Our boat was probably manufactured fairly early. It was probably commissioned in California in early 1984. As far as I can tell, it is a standard early model down below.) Ted Keech
Apropos the main track - interesting idea. maybe you can give me the link to Dutchman. I got a new main and the new sliders, coupled with a regular dose of silicone spray it all works fairly well. As point of interest, I bought Hoods from their South African loft - less that half the price being quoted in UK/Ireland (and that included airfreight + duty). David Tucker
http://www.mvbinfo.com/dp_02_TRACK.html I'll try to get you some measurements and pix this weekend. Very interesting about Hood South Africa. I'll take a look. I exploded a spinnaker in September and never have had usable #3 jib. Ted
Ted Keech
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I think the panelling is sapele faced ply, I doubt that Marine Projects would have gone to trouble of staining the ply - they were pretty mean on things like that!
Just found this list and have found it very usefull already. I'm the proud owner of "Beach Fox" I think the tall masthead version. I bought the boat nov 04 in cape cod and she eventually arrived back in Hayling Island last October, and I'm now in the process of refitting several of the problem areas already discussed on the list; deck, windows, plumbing, electrics, P-bracket, leaks.Beach Fox also has the tendency to list unless carefully trimmed. My P-bracket was loose and actually leaked quite badly, it took quite a while to discover where it was coming from. Despite all the work I've discovered for myself, I very pleased with her and have a very long list of places to go and things to do. I would be interested in being part of an association. Is there any sort of archive of the info exchanged in this list. A couple of other lists I'm on have that facility ; pictures,reference material, links etc Princess yachts who hold the sigma archive have promised me some drawings, but they have yet to materialise. Does anyone have any S41 literature or plans? all I have for the moment is a copy of a sales spec sheet. thanks and bye for now.
There are several 41's in and around the Solent plus a few in the West Country so the South Coast should be able to make a start - but maybe we are all too busy sailing our boats!! Roger
As Roger said, time and energy is lacking on the association bit, namely because I'm in the second year of setting up a website etc. Princess are very hesitant about plans etc. as I have pushed them on these in the past, I have the sales pitch bit etc. but as you rightly say no plans. Your list of repairs will grow no doubt, I don't think we have anything onboard we have not refurbished, the decks are not so daunting once you start and I can recommend a teak supplier who did my cockpit brilliantly and it didn't cost an arm and a leg. Will try and push on with an association, the sigma 33 clan have a good site and association, but seemed hesitant in helping us, will try again. Hi Ted and Roger, what primary ST winches have you got? ST48 or 50 or other. Replacing mine this year and would like feedback on performance of a two speed versus three speed. Any Fowey Regatta challengers this year? Cheers now! Shawn
Hi All, The decks on Hideaway had started to lift on the port side and badly at the bow the last owner must have had the same problem and tried to fix it by putting in some extra screws but they are now also pulling out. So I have taken the bull by the horns and have taken it all up, The teak was layed on a very light ply 2 or 3 mill thick but was lifting between the ply and deak and was very wet, also the caulking had become detatched from large parts of the teak, the teak is still all in good repair.I will let you know how we get on putting it back down. Francis.
Just found this site. Purchased a 41 Sept last year and are in process doing all the work mentioned here. The main one left are the decks to be tackled next winter. I would be most interested to hear further and see any pics of work in progress in order that I may plan ahead. Scotfree is based on the Clyde but the Americas Cup beckons. Jimmymac
Maybe you got the answer already. The handrails you mention(if the same as scotfree) are teak.If you remove the us varnish(its not sticking so it looks pale)and sand you should find nice teak. All off the pannelling is also teak and I think you will find that where it is light the finnish has lost it's adhesion and the only cure is to remove and sand but be carefull as the veneer on the ply is thin
Thanks for the suggestions. Our boats must have different wood. Roger was correct, I think, when he wrote that the plywood veneer paneling below deck in his boat and mine is sapele, sometimes called African mahogany. See http://www.hearnehardwoods.com/Inventory/sapele.html I still have not figured out what the solid wood in the vertical posts is, but the paleness is not a result of peeling varnish, and stripping and sanding made them paler, if anything. It may also be sapele, because some sapele is said to be paler than other. I have found that a very quick application of a mahogany stain (15+/- seconds before wiping it away) gives a color close to the paneling. Ted Keech
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