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Peugeot 306 locking
25 December 2004, 3:58 PM
tom carter
Joined 25 Dec 2004
1 posts

hi there i have a phase 2 model (98) and have the same auto-unlock problem. Where is the central locking unit situated and how do i bypass the unit?any help in the matter would be much appreciated! thanks tom

Peugeot 306 locking
25 December 2004, 4:45 PM
Tooth
Joined 26 Aug 2004
6 posts

Dunno about phase II, but how about rmoving the fuse for the central locking as a temp measure so at least your car can be left secure.

Peugeot 306 locking
28 December 2004, 10:59 AM
nymphobadger
Joined 15 Dec 2004
6 posts

Hi there,
I too have a Pug 306 XS '96 -red-3 door. I spent along time studying the wire diagrams and locking devices only a couple of weeks ago. If you like you can email me, and i will give you my mobile number, and i can talk you through it. Would take a while on here, and im not at home, so using someone elses computer. But email me at [Log in to view email] and i will let you have my phone number.
I'm pretty sure i can help!

Neil


Peugeot 306 locking
28 December 2004, 2:14 PM
jimmy
Joined 28 Dec 2004
5 posts

I have an L Reg 306, bought a few months ago, not having the above problems as dont think its DT type of peugeot. My central locking works fine by turning the key in the lock, its the remote that ive been having problems with. I no longer have a button in the key to press, therefore i can see the electrics just by looking at the key. I was wondering If there was anywhere i can purchase just the outer key (ie the black plastic bit) so that i can transfer my electrics. and whether this would work? Or would i be better of going to a local dealer and getting them to get me a new one for 50 quid! seems a bit steep seem as though its just a button missing!

Peugeot 306 locking
30 December 2004, 9:45 AM
Mustak
Joined 30 Dec 2004
1 posts

Hi Kevin

Can you please expand on where the broken wires are. Are they in the door panel or under bonnet?
I have got similar problem and I spoke to an auto electrician on the phone who told me that the wire loom that goes between the door pillar and the front door on the drivers side needs replacing.



Peugeot 306 locking
30 December 2004, 10:00 AM
Tooth
Joined 26 Aug 2004
6 posts

Usually it's the cables between the door pillar and the door. Over time, as the door opens and closes it stretches and twists the wires which eventually break. A VERY poor design by Peugot!

You can buy a new cable loom assy to fit but it means taking the door off to do a good job as it's a bit fiddly etc. Taking the door off is not too difficult and the job is tiresome but not impossible. Just depends if you consider it worth it? Your call. We have just taken the fuse out and use the old fashioned method of using a key! LOL

Good luck


Peugeot 306 locking
2 January 2005, 10:50 AM
jamiecottonuk
Joined 29 Dec 2004
2 posts

Re 306 central locking problems, I guess that my 306 ( 1993 XR) is much the same as others which have the problem of the central locking system unlocking the car as the controller sees an open circuit either due to a genuine open door or more likely, due to a fault in a switch or broken cable.

I was really pleased to read the comments from Solara on how to bypass the door locking check system by placing a wire between cable M623 and cable 6293 .
But this does not work on my car, in fact I have tried shorting across just about every combination of wires coming out of the connector block for the central locking controller found underneath the rear seat, and none have the desired effect.

The Haynes manual does not give the complete wiring diagram, most probably due to security issues, so it is not possible to identify the door lock check circuit and my guess is that Solara got lucky and his fix solved a problem with just one door lock, at least that’s my guess as it does not work for me

I have searched just about every forum on the net but always find Solara’s solution, does anyone have a complete wiring diagram or know the correct cables to short circuit to bypass the door locking check system or have any ideas on this subject ?


Peugeot 306 locking
2 January 2005, 6:58 PM
nymphobadger
Joined 15 Dec 2004
6 posts

Hi there, I had the same problem. Through trial and error you can determine which is the driver door switch and which is passenger.

Once you have done this, you can trick the circuit into looking at the passenger door or driver door, depending on which door has the knackard switch. Us ethe haynes manual to locate the wire numbers to each door, then simply short across the relavent wires untill the locks stay down.

In my situation i hadto make the circuit look at the passeneger door because my driver door switch is broken.

Neil


Peugeot 306 locking
3 January 2005, 0:26 AM
smc
Joined 2 Jan 2005
14 posts

If any of your locks are not going fully home, the system will unlock itself again. The same effect can be achieved by locking the car with one of the doors open.
This may not necessarily be the fault of a lock, but could be caused by one of the internal lock levers or connecting rods in the door mechanism "holding off" the lock.
A badly adjusted keeper (the bar that the lock pawl closes around - the bit that you see on the door pillar) could be too far into the door-well and the lock isn't fully engaging. Don't forget to check the tailgate/boot lock as well.

Peugeot 306 locking
3 January 2005, 9:19 PM
ant
Joined 3 Jan 2005
6 posts

hi
i'm a peugeot machanic been doing it for the last 4 yr's
the problem with your central locking is the wiring loom from the door piller to door they break with the door being opened and closed all the time mainly driver's door but i have known it on the passenger side.best thing to do take door off,and split the rubber casing your find a couple of wires broke you may be able to rejoin them,but if thers to many you need to buy a replacement loom from the main dealers at about £41.00 + vat.
warning they are not colour coded or numbered you have to do a continuity test on each wire to socket does take a long time plus you will have wires left but u just cut them of.

hope i've helped ant


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Peugeot 306 locking
4 January 2005, 5:24 PM
andrew
Joined 4 Jan 2005
2 posts

For what its worth, this is my experience of this problem, and the fix suggested by Solara some time ago. I have a T reg 306 estate.
1. No need to remove the seat belt and trim a la Haynes. Once the seat is out, the control unit is between the front and rear RHS seat bolts and very readily accesible by peeling up the carpet.
2. After much trial and error I found that shorting across terminals 8 and 9 (6293 (Red) and 628 (yellow) in haynes Diagram 27) did the trick for me. This leaves it all working well apart from the auto unlock function on the rear 3 doors.
3. If you get into trying all possible combinations of 2 terminals, make a matrix on a piece of paper so you can remember which don't help. Some combinations will blow the fuse, so have some spares ready.
4. If you short across the connector terminals rather than the internal terminals of the control unit, resist the temptation to cut some plastic off the connector to make the job easier. I think this is what allowed some dodgines to some of the terminals, which resulted in the locking problem repeating (once I had the seat in again, of course.) A cable tie round the connector probably solved this. I wasn't confident enough in my soldering ability to do the short within the control unit. Ideal solution would be to find somebody who is, I guess.

Once again, many thanks to Solara. Car now secure and useable, at a total cost of a long afternoon and some fuses.


Peugeot 306 locking
12 January 2005, 7:08 PM
dan
Joined 12 Jan 2005
1 posts

Hi i have a pug 306, 1998, i was wandering if any one knows how to connect my alarm up to the central locking and where i can do this?thanks dan.

Peugeot 306 locking
12 January 2005, 8:17 PM
ant
Joined 3 Jan 2005
6 posts

hi,
i can help you need to cleen or replace the stepper motor on all peugeot petrol cars they have a stepper motor this controls the fuel when on iddle,be warned when stepper motor is removed do not push or pull the center piston as it will require setting up on a computer not necessary main agent,by the way i'm a peugeot mechanic been doing it for the last 5 yrs and do a lot of private work from home and have a computer and parts for doing the jobs regards ant

Peugeot 306 locking
15 January 2005, 8:15 PM
Hue
Joined 15 Jan 2005
1 posts

Hi Ant,

Not so long ago I purchased a Peugeot 306 1993. When I purchased the car I was informed that the central locking on the driver’s side did not work. Thinking that this was not a major issue I bought the car! A mistake!

Anyway too late for that and to cut a long story short - I opened up the driver’s side interior part of the door to see if I could find some clue as to what was wrong with the central locking system.

When looking, I found numerous joins in the wiring, inside the door just near the locking mechanism. I also discovered that one of the wires was broken, so I soldered it together and insulated it.
The central locking then worked but the car immobilizer immobilized the car completely. So I reversed what I had just done with the one wire and still the same problem occurred. I also tried resetting the immobilizer, and I also checked fuses etc.

After investigating further I found that there were various joins in the loom between the car body and the door. Furthermore the colour coding of the wires coming out the car body did not match the colour coding of the wires coming into the inside of the door which go directly to the locking mechanism.
Additionally - some of the wires had been cut right up to the exterior loom connector - so I cannot use it anyway!

I phoned our local Peugeot dealership to see if they could replace everything or fix it, I was told that I would be looking at least £385.00 + which for me is quite a substantial amount of money.

As I did not have that kind of spare money I took the door off and spliced in a new set of wires close to the body of the car.
As I mentioned I can not use the damaged sockets as I could not get close to the two cut wires - so instead I ran a fresh set of appropriate diameter wires right through.

I found a rubber grommet to suit the old hole in the door and it is sealed properly.

I fed the new wiring - through the old rubber boot adjoining the car body and into the door all the way to the central locking mechanism. I used separate wires for the speakers. There are no electric mirrors or windows to worry about either.

With my electric meter I raced very carefully the correct wires from the two sides of the old loom sockets, and connected up to the central locking mechanism but to my disappointment it still does not work.

My conclusion is that the old wiring configuration has been wrong all along.

As you probably know - there are eight black wires with markings going into the drivers side locking mechanism.
Do perhaps have any idea what colour wires should go to the locking mechanism or where I could find out?

I really would appreciate any help.

Joe


Peugeot 306 locking
20 January 2005, 9:24 AM
tango
Joined 20 Jan 2005
1 posts

my daughter has a 306 diesel estate W registered her front passenger door lock failed and I had to obtain and fit a new lock, trouble is the old lock had 8 wires going to it and new lock has 6! Peugeot gladly supplied me with the apprpriate plugs, connectors and the new modified wiring diagram. It doesn't tell me what to do with the excess wiring. Any ideas anybody, or failing that I would like to disable the auto unlock feature, so where is the control unit and what does it look like? Peugeot chap told me the factory vary both the wiring loom and placement of control unit with monotonous and unrecorded regularity depending on who supplies the looms and locks! Aint that good of them
Cheers


Peugeot 306 locking
21 January 2005, 12:48 PM
metalfury
Joined 21 Jan 2005
6 posts

Hi

I had the same problem. It is caused by dodgy wiring in the door loom!

Much of the wiring runs through the door at the hinge area through a loom. With repeated opening and closing of the door these wires eventually break and can shortcircuit.

I was quoted a price to get the door loom replaced and it was silly money! So I fixed it with a soldering iron and insulation tape.


Good luck

Rob


Peugeot 306 locking
21 January 2005, 12:48 PM
CN
Joined 21 Jan 2005
4 posts

Hello fellow pre-lovers,
My central-locking (1998 306 GLX) is stuffed, too - the fuse has been removed with the intention of key locking, but the boot won't lock! Dealer says there should be 'another key' but that doesn't sound right. Although ignition key fits boot it won't turn. Anyone else know anything about this?

Also, since dealer fiddled and removed fuse, the interior light doesn't work properly (occasionally flashes on/off when I manually unlock the passenger door, or start the ignition) and the stereo insists on having the code put in every time. Is it possible that these things are related to the c/l fuse being removed?

Cheers guys,
Claire


Peugeot 306 locking
22 January 2005, 5:34 PM
andrew
Joined 4 Jan 2005
2 posts

Appendix to my message of 4th Jan:
Jumping across terminals 8 and 9 appears to have been a fluke; the problem reappeared a few days later. have spent ages studying the Haynes wiring diagram; in my opinion this is a stage you cannot miss out.
However, I've managed to figure out that the diagram is of the system in the unlocked state, which helps during the 'staring at the diagram for several days' stage.
Today I have disconnected the wire (actually 2 wires, beige and pink) from terminal 5,wrapped the wire ends in gaffer tape and reassembled. The control unit will now never see a ' warning, door open' signal, so once you've locked, it stays locked.
The upshot is;
- Remote central locking and unlocking works
- Key-in-the-lock central locking/unloocking doesn't,but who cares
- Auto-unlock feature is disabled, so its possible to inadvertently leave a door open, but again, who cares
- The passenger door lock button will lock, but not unlock,all doors from the inside. Worth knowing, just in case.

Hope the above helps.


Peugeot 306 locking
24 January 2005, 5:03 AM
pug306
Joined 24 Jan 2005
25 posts

if the key still work you to try reprograming it to the car that might work. there is some 306 centrol locking stuff on ebay at the moment if it comes to it but if i was you i would try to reprogram the key first

Peugeot 306 locking
25 January 2005, 8:24 PM
Al
Joined 25 Jan 2005
6 posts

i have nearly the same problem as every one else but some times my central locking works perfectly and other times it messes around and i have to resort to removing the fuse. the central locking cotrol unit on my car is under the front seat and there fore tricky to get to. has any one else had the same problem with their central locking being tempramental? if so have you sorted it and how?

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