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My Boxer Bitch is 5 Weeks pregnant with her first litter!
11 August 2008, 1:13 PM
kitty
Joined 31 Aug 2007
6808 posts

will do...is it 3 or 4 weeks that i take her to the vet??


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My Boxer Bitch is 5 Weeks pregnant with her first litter!
11 August 2008, 10:36 PM
Laura
Joined 18 Jul 2007
336 posts

Hi Kitty,
It depends on what kind of confirmation that your vet uses or prefers. My vet recommended an ultra sound over palputation.
I believe that the most commonly used method is ultrasound. This can be used after 28 days, but may not be able to predict accurately how many puppies there are. Ultrasound examinations are comfortable because they are non invasive and very reliable.

Feeling the abdomen from about 21 days can be accurate, but it may be difficult if the dog is nervous or slightly overweight (not that Angel is ;0). If pregnant, the vet will feel a thickening of the uterus and "bumps" within. It isn't fool-proof, however, especially if there is just one pup in the womb or if the pregnancy is not as advanced as first thought.

From approximately 21-25 days endocrinological tests detect relaxin, a hormone exclusively produced by pregnant dogs.

The puppy's heart beats can be detected after about 25 days using a stethoscope or ECG. However it will be very difficult to determine how many puppies there are.

An x-ray will pick up the skeletons of the puppies from around 49 days. It should also be accurate in determining how many there are. At the same time, most vets prefer not to use this method, as there is a danger that the radiation might cause damage.

Keep my fingers crossed for you x


My Boxer Bitch is 5 Weeks pregnant with her first litter!
12 August 2008, 1:37 AM
kitty
Joined 31 Aug 2007
6808 posts

i wanted to do palputation but then i heard if the vet does it wrong it can damage the pups. then i considered ultrasound but i heard this can make them loose some pups. i have read about the relaxin blood test and the xray but i dont like the thought of the xray either.. what do you think would be best.. for the time being im not to bothered about how many pups i would just like to be sure she is pregnant. at the same time dont want anything that might hurt her or the pups.i think the blood test sounds saftest but not sure how accurate it is.. do you?
hehe well shes deffo not overweight but she can be a little nervous but she usually just stands there staring at me as if shes asking why a strange man is sticking his fingers up her bottom LOL


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My Boxer Bitch is 5 Weeks pregnant with her first litter!
12 August 2008, 11:31 AM
Laura
Joined 18 Jul 2007
336 posts

Kitty,
If an inexperienced person palputates the abdomen then yes there is a chance of fetal loss. This method is not always possible in larger dogs (again not the case for you lovely little Angel ;0) Or if the dog is large chested and likely to carry under rib cage. X rays are not widely used in th UK for pregnancy confirmation (more in the US I believe) because there is a risk of damage from the x rays radiation (Same as young children, hospitals will not X ray them under a certain age and use an ultrasound as it is a much safer method).
Ultra sounds are normally the recommended method of pregnancy confirmation (Same as we have to check for fetal abnormalities during pregnancy) and is accurate after 28 days.
The blood tests I believe test for a hormone relaxin that is only released when an embryo has ben implanted however this can give a flase result if there is a small litter of pups of 3 and under.

As Angel has only been mated once this season ( as Mia was) it would be easy to work out her due date.

You could wait if you are unconvinced about the confirmation methods and look for signs of pregnancy however for the first three weeks or so of pregnancy, you may not notice any changes in Angel. Some females will become more demanding for attention, their nipples may enlarge slightly, and some may become hungrier. These are not a guarantee of a pregnancy, but are good signs. A good indication is a increase in vaginal discharge. Bitches can show the same signs during 'false pregnancy,' a hormonal abnormality, which may occur after a bitch has been in heat. So may be an issue if Angel has ever had a phantom pregnancy... As symptoms will be virtually the same.

And as for Angel being a little nervous I think we all would be in that situation LOL poor girl!!!


My Boxer Bitch is 5 Weeks pregnant with her first litter!
12 August 2008, 11:51 AM
kitty
Joined 31 Aug 2007
6808 posts

LOL yh the look she gives me is like 'dont you even love me mum' she loves going to the vet and seeing all the other animals and she will willingly run into the surgery but put her on that table and she hides her bum with her tail and demands on being seated because he empties her glands everytime we go so she knows whats to come lol.

yeh id rather get it confirmed by a vet because angel has had a phantom pregnancy on both her previous seasons. she gets so upset with it aswell she tries to mother teddy bears.. when we brought bindi home angel wasnt even having a false pregnancy and she lay down on the floor and tried to let bindi suckle it was so cute but it was upsetting because she seemed so distressed.

yep IF she is pregnant her due date is the 12.10.08

thanks for all the info then i think im more likely to go for the ultrasound by the sounds of it. because although my vet is genuinly a good vet i think just to be safe maybe not have her palpated..
how much does the ultrasound scan cost? i ask coz if i remember rightly mia had it done didnt she?


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My Boxer Bitch is 5 Weeks pregnant with her first litter!
12 August 2008, 11:55 AM
Laura
Joined 18 Jul 2007
336 posts

Yeah mia had a scan done, it cost just under £35 for the scan. It was lovely to see the pups in there, but no where near as fantatsic when you can see them all moving about in her tummy and feel them kick... It is priceless ;0)


My Boxer Bitch is 5 Weeks pregnant with her first litter!
12 August 2008, 11:58 AM
Laura
Joined 18 Jul 2007
336 posts

Here is boy number 2 who we have now nick named Chunk.
He was 398 grams at birth and now weighs in at 598 grams he is snoozing after his breakfast this morning!!!!!!


My Boxer Bitch is 5 Weeks pregnant with her first litter!
12 August 2008, 12:01 PM
Laura
Joined 18 Jul 2007
336 posts

And here is boy number one who weighed in at 392 grams at birth he now weighs in at 644grams.... We have nicknamed him Stripe.... Again like his little brother he is zzzzzzing away after filling his tum this morning!!!!!!!


My Boxer Bitch is 5 Weeks pregnant with her first litter!
12 August 2008, 12:10 PM
kitty
Joined 31 Aug 2007
6808 posts

awww yeh i can imagine..we have never had pups born we have had kittens. a few litters but i was only young so didnt really remember much ;)
thats a good price for a scan i will probs use my most local vet dor that coz dont think the clinic i go to will have it :)


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My Boxer Bitch is 5 Weeks pregnant with her first litter!
12 August 2008, 12:11 PM
kitty
Joined 31 Aug 2007
6808 posts

wowsa growing so fast aye :) how old are they now??


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My Boxer Bitch is 5 Weeks pregnant with her first litter!
12 August 2008, 12:20 PM
Laura
Joined 18 Jul 2007
336 posts

Stripe was born on the 7th of Aug at 19:55 so is 5 days this evening!!!

Chunk was born at 06:42 hrs on the 8th so is 4 days....

They are due to go in to the vets today to have their dew claws removed... and be checked over again.


My Boxer Bitch is 5 Weeks pregnant with her first litter!
12 August 2008, 12:49 PM
kitty
Joined 31 Aug 2007
6808 posts

aww you will have everyone oohing and awwwing over them :)


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My Boxer Bitch is 5 Weeks pregnant with her first litter!
12 August 2008, 6:35 PM
wisp
Joined 19 Jul 2008
92 posts

They are lovely, congratulations.

My Boxer Bitch is 5 Weeks pregnant with her first litter!
12 August 2008, 6:38 PM
Laura
Joined 18 Jul 2007
336 posts

Thank you!!!

They have had there dew claws removed today. Vet is pleased with their progress.

How are your litter hope they are doing well.... So glad it went much better for you than Mia's!!!!


My Boxer Bitch is 5 Weeks pregnant with her first litter!
12 August 2008, 9:43 PM
Nobby
Joined 26 Feb 2007
3822 posts

Is it essential to have dew claws removed? I have one dog with them and one without! How old do they have to be to get this done? oooer another thing to add to the list, kitty!! lol


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My Boxer Bitch is 5 Weeks pregnant with her first litter!
12 August 2008, 10:04 PM
kitty
Joined 31 Aug 2007
6808 posts

lol not for me all my dogs still have them n so will the pups :)
i dont think small dogs like mine need them moving heehee.. there was a collie in the vet last month it had caught its dew claw and it had ripped half way out poor begger.. maybe he coulda done with his being removed as a pup :) did you say in anpther thread it is breed standard for boxers laura?? i dont know to much about boxers lol my aunt had one called coleman he was great :)


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My Boxer Bitch is 5 Weeks pregnant with her first litter!
13 August 2008, 0:48 AM
Nobby
Joined 26 Feb 2007
3822 posts

Maybe coz mine will be a working breed it may be better to have them removed? Will hav to talk to Vet about it and see wot he says. both mine are sposed to be cockers, one has them removed - one doesnt! lol


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My Boxer Bitch is 5 Weeks pregnant with her first litter!
13 August 2008, 1:06 AM
kitty
Joined 31 Aug 2007
6808 posts

lol odd which one does n which one doesnt ?


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My Boxer Bitch is 5 Weeks pregnant with her first litter!
13 August 2008, 9:17 AM
Laura
Joined 18 Jul 2007
336 posts

Nobby,
Mia does not have hers removed, although it is breed standard. She split one of her dew claws not that long ago and it bled and bled (poor girl). I spoke with the vet about them being removed and he thought it woud definately be for the benefit of the pups as they quite often cause problems later on in his opinion and it is obviously much more difficult to deal with when they are older. The pups had them done at 4 days old, (yesterday) they did not yelp or show any signs of discomfort

My Boxer Bitch is 5 Weeks pregnant with her first litter!
13 August 2008, 11:39 AM
wisp
Joined 19 Jul 2008
92 posts

They are fine thanks, growing fast, one of the pups has a problem with his toe, It looks like the sac got caught around his foot and it pulled some skin off and ripped his toe. The toe turned black and has been taken off (it was only hanging on with a bit of skin). Trying to keep a dressing on has been fun but we have finally managed it.

The rest of the foot looks fine so keeping fingers crossed it will heal ok. The pup himself is eating well and it doesnt seem to bother him. If we cant sell him because he only has 3 toes then we will keep him ourselves.

Have taken loads of pics but cant upload them, will get OH to put them on for me asap.


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