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12 July 2008, 11:41 AM

BRYAN
Joined 10 Sep 2007
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DOES ANY ONE KNOW WHAT AGE CARS THESE ARE TO BE FITTED ON ?
DOES ANY ONE OWN ONE ? - WHAT CAR HAVE YOU FITTED IT TO ?

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12 July 2008, 11:12 PM

gary
Joined 13 Mar 2002
1975 posts

Any age is the answer Bryan, darn good bit of kit I believe, should keep your old Bessy on the straight and narrow lol

One proviso, if your car is post 97 then the towbars 'type approved' these are generally tested with a 25mm spacer between towbar and towball mounting.
In other words anything like the stabiliser bracket bolted between must add up to no more than 25mm in total, one inch in real money.

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13 July 2008, 0:27 AM

BRYAN
Joined 10 Sep 2007
10 posts

Thanks Gary, but it will not fit on my 1994 Toyota Estima so i have to sell it shame as it does seem a good bit of kit. Trying to find out why it is not fitting so the new owner does not have same problem. And its not adding any more than an inch with the bracket. When i connect the stabiliser its nearly toching the floor ,it can not get up high enough to sit on the caravan bracket and its not just me 3 others have tried. And its in an unused condition and as you will see in the photo its not bent. So at a loss to explain it, have talked to sasproducts and trapezium developments in Africa still waiting for a reply. So any ideas???

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13 July 2008, 4:06 PM

gary
Joined 13 Mar 2002
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I assume you mean the tip of the stabiliser is nearly touching the floor?

So, either the stabiliser mounting that plugs into the socket on the cars bent, or more likely, the towball mounting plate on the towbar is not perfectly vertical but angled down very slightly.
The slightest error here will be magnified perhaps 15 to 20 times by the overall length of the stabiliser.

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13 July 2008, 7:51 PM

BRYAN
Joined 10 Sep 2007
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Hi Gary, that is a possibilitey, so i have bolted the bracket back on the car and the gap between the bottom of the stabiliser car bracket and the floor is 26 cms and at the tip of the stabiliser it is 10cms to the floor. Can not tell if anything is bent, i realy need to c another one to compare the two, see what they look like laying on a flat floor (so if someone has one and can send me a photo of it laying flat on a floor, i would be most gratefull) the bracket looks to bulkey to be able to bend and the tow bar was profesinaley fited 2 years ago i have stood on the tow ball before to get things of the roof but only twice but i am
100kgs + so that might have given the tow ball a downward tilt. What do you think by looking at the enclosed photo? Thanks Gary

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13 July 2008, 10:13 PM

gary
Joined 13 Mar 2002
1975 posts

It's the plate on the towbar that the ball mounts to that needs to be vertical and it don't look it? but that could be the way you've took the picture.
Can you not take everything back off and use a spirit level vertically to check how far out it is?

The fitting instructions should then help telling what distances need to be, or have you not got any instructions? Are you sure the caravans bracket is not to high for instance?
Also have you released the arm?, again don't know how this thing works but there's a long lever in the kit to release something with?

PS. reading on other websites it will indeed fit and be legal on any car of any age

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13 July 2008, 11:15 PM

BRYAN
Joined 10 Sep 2007
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Yes there seems a slight tilt to it and as you say that magnifies as it goes along there is a close up photo enclosed shows it in more detail. I will have to make sure the car is level then try to get a level on the tow ball mouting.
I have all fiting instructions there is no measurements exept that the A frame clamp needs to be +660mm from the centure of the towball whitch i did and the clamp has only one position its not ajustable, and the arm is in the deactivate position you activate it when fitted on with the separate lever, not entilely sure what the activate does or how it works its like a shock absorber i surpose constantly bringing the caravan back in a straight line.
And you say you have found a site that states in black and white "for any age car" ?
I have heard that 1998+ tow balls are mouted with a tilt upwards but i did hear that from the same person who said he saw a site ware it said the straightliner is for newer cars only. So i will let you know what the spirt level says, thanks Gary for all your help in this matter speak to you soon kind regards Bryan

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13 July 2008, 11:48 PM

gary
Joined 13 Mar 2002
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That does look about 3 to 4mm out over just the height of the plate, if it's 50mm high this would be x18 over 900mm, that's 54 to 72mm!!

If so you need someone to either refit the tow bar correctly if that's possible? or consider having either a spacer machined to remove the error or I'd seriously consider having a bend put in the stabilisers mounting bracket

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14 July 2008, 0:21 AM

BRYAN
Joined 10 Sep 2007
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Blimey that does magnifiey being a few mm out of aliment, do you think me standing on the towball did this? Come to think of it my wife has confessed to a few reverseing misshaps so it could be her!
I c what you mean by puting a spacer between, if it is the right shape it will correct the angle and put it straight great idea i was going to put a trolly jack under it and jack it back straight but that might cause more damage so i will try your plan i think the stabiliser mounting bracket is to strong to put a bend in it so i will try to make a spacer for the mounting plate to sit on.
Thanks again i will let u know how i get on, at least i know that the straightliner is fine its my tow ball attachment thats bent! The wife says we do not need a stabiliser as its a twin axle and we have a big car but i do feel safer with one as we are quite a size on the road!

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14 July 2008, 12:15 PM

Edited by gary 14 July 2008, 12:18 PM

gary
Joined 13 Mar 2002
1975 posts

Looking at that picture I'd say it's as much as 10mm out of plumb from the stabilisers mounting point up to the towball bolt holes, certainly found the problem then.

I don't think your OH reversing into things is the reason though or for that matter you standing on it, I got seriously rear-ended and it barely moved the ball, more to the point though in the opposite direction!.

To be honest then before you try adapting what you have, I'd first get someone who knows exactly what their looking at to see if the brackets mounted on the car correctly.
Not saying it is but if it has moved down rather than been fitted like that then something could be very wrong! it certainly needs checking

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14 July 2008, 2:15 PM

BRYAN
Joined 10 Sep 2007
10 posts

Thats a lot out! it dawnd on me last nite the fitting was done by a proper firm and i think it was guaranteed for the life of the car it was fitted to but it does not say that on my receipt so i will see if they have a web site and i can email them some photos c what they say. It must of been put on pissed coz there has been no major mishaps and as you say it will take a lot to put it out of line i have a photo that you can just see the bubble down one end not the middle so it defently not level and you can tell that by the photo, so you have better eye sight than me! I think by undoing the bolts under the car i can bring it up level then retighten but i will contact the company who fitted it first thanks again i will let you know

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