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Hello everyone,
My son is 8 mths old (will be 9 mths on 1 Aug) and am just wondering if anyone gives their baby a minut scoop of honey in their bottle?
Gilly
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Advice on honey
25 July 2008, 8:36 AM
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Laney
Joined 26 Aug 2007
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hi, personally wouldn't put honey in the bottle, not good for the teeth or should baby choke on a thicker liquid. But, if you are wanting to introduce honey, local honey, to help with hayfever its a good idea, perhaps small amount in porridge or something. My son was a bad hay fever sufferer as a baby, but we used local honey - moved three times and changed the honey three times, he is not as bad now.
Hi,
I will start putting it in his porridge this morning, dont want him to get too used to sweet stuff even though honey is healthy(ish).
Gilly http://www.nirelandmumsonline.co.uk/
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Advice on honey
28 July 2008, 10:32 PM
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Lucy
Joined 7 Jul 2008
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I have an 8 month old grandchild and the health visitor said not to give honey to babies under 12 months old. I have not heard this before and my own children had honey from about 6 months old but these new fangled ideas are apparently based on "research."
Hi Lucy,
How are you?
These scientists and health visitors change their minds so often. One week you are told not to do this and the next week, we can. It is often hard to fathom out whose advice to follow but sometimes we should go on gut instinct, dont you think? I have stopped giving Ethan honey now and will just wait for a few months (scary thought that he will be 1 in November! - time really does fly :-D)
Gilly http://www.nirelandmumsonline.co.uk/
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Advice on honey
29 July 2008, 4:08 PM
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Lucy
Joined 7 Jul 2008
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Yes I agree entirely, they change their minds all the time due to "new research". When bringng up my kids I was always told babies under 12 months old should not have cows' milk, but my granddaughter's health visitor said it is okay to give to her. The same with pork, it was said it was too hard for a baby to digest. You should go with your gut instinct and also listen to the advice of your own mums and grandmas, after all they have more experience of bringing up babies (and probably did a better job of it too!) then do what YOU feel is best for YOUR baby!!!
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Advice on honey
29 July 2008, 7:18 PM
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ROXY AKA FAYE
Joined 24 Apr 2007
159 posts
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When my son was born i red in a leaflet that honey cannot be given to babies under 12mths because i contains a bacteria x
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Hi,
I wonder what sort of bacteria it contains, must do a wee search to have a look...
Gilly http://www.nirelandmumsonline.co.uk/
Hi, I agree with everything you said there in your post. I didnt know though about giving baby's cows milk, how old is your grand-daughter?
Gilly
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Advice on honey
29 July 2008, 8:45 PM
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Lucy
Joined 7 Jul 2008
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Hi My grandaughter is 8 months old. The Health Visitor said it is okay to give her cows milk on her cereal etc but not to drink. I suppose I am old fashioned as my own kids are now in their 30's, but they turn to me for advice and I use my experience, based on what was passed down to me by my mum and her mum!
Regarding honey, the health visitor did mention it has been proved to contain some bacteria, but we used to believe honey was good for our babies' health,as long as the didn't have too much to rot their teeth!!!!!
To be honest, I sometimes wonder how I have got to my fifties because nowadays almost everything we ate or did when we were younger has now been proved to be bad for us!!!!!!
To all you young mums out there, just do what you feel is best for you and your child, but above all, take time to enjoy your kids while they are babies, they grow up so fast!!!!!!!!!!
And remember that age old advice - "If you stay at home to bring up your child you will not regret it, you can always retrain for your career, but you will never again have the pleasure of watching your baby grow up."
Hi Lucy,
Thank you for posting the "age-old advice" - how true!! I was determined to go back to work when my son was born but now I cant bear to leave him with anyone. I would miss him too much and dont want to leave him with a stranger! I want to see my baby grow up.
Gilly
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Advice on honey
30 July 2008, 8:54 AM
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Laney
Joined 26 Aug 2007
662 posts
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Hi, interesting topic. I had many many many.....arguements with my HV, with both my children, now 14 and 12. My son is glucose intolerant and I was accused of starving him by the pediatrician at 5 weeks old when he lost 15% of his birth weight, when he actually had a 'mouthing' difficulty which the original and most wonderful HV diagnosed in 10 seconds flat, my son never looked back. Sadly she retired within weeks of my sons birth. I weaned my son at 4 months, by then had a new HV who trained AFTER her three children became adults, she insisted on everything being done by the book. I ignored her again the second time around and weaned my daughter early as she also was hungary. I am, as far as I know, one of the only parents, whose children are not only physically very fit and strong - daughter very petite as well as fit and strong! - neither have fillings in their teeth - my son was on Wysoy milk until 6 months when I gradually introduced cows milk to try and increase his tolerance as he was lactose intolerant, I was told his adult teeth would be affected by the soya milk, he has the most perfect, straight white teeth, and other than rugby injuries with my son, neither have had more than a common cold, grommits (for my son) and chicken pox, which my daughter had before she was 12 months - another arguement with the doctor - and again at 7 yrs, but just 3 or 4 spots as she had had it previously! LOL! I used honey for my son on porridge etc., as he was a sufferer of hay fever when little, it was an old wives tale that worked - must be something in these old wives tales - surely some bacteria in our foods/world has to be good to promote our own immune systems? My kids have grown up on farms - agriculture not animals - played in the dirt, eaten worms etc., and always had family pets, rabbits, cats, dogs, rats (the fancy ones), we once had resident hedgehogs........my argument remains, some germs and bacteria must be good. I know so many sickly kids, whose parents have covered their children in cotton wool and those children are always pasty looking and sick. I am not a perfect parent, and don't wish to start a row, I was just curious if anyone else felt the same? Just as a footnote, I don't promote my way of bringing up kids, everyones children are different, I was just wandering if our now pc world has influenced bringing up our children with a deteriment to their health.
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Advice on honey
30 July 2008, 9:01 AM
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ROXY AKA FAYE
Joined 24 Apr 2007
159 posts
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I have looked on some sites and they say "Do NOT use honey...it is linked to infant botulism" x
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30 July 2008, 3:33 PM
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Nobby
Joined 26 Feb 2007
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Hiya, i agree with you Laney - my brothers and sisters did everything by the book and their kids are also pale, not the best immune system etc. Mine have always grown up on mixed farms, always had family pets, and always played in the dirt! lol Im not saying i didnt wash their hands or anything - but kids are kids and im sure both of mine should have been boys! lol As a result, mine have healthy glowing cheeks, they are both fit and can walk miles without whingeing, they have a good immune system etc. I think its just common sense. I would always listen to advice given by HV/books then decide whether that advice was relevant to my kids. I did find that a few of my HV's didnt even have children themselves and really didnt have a clue - so what they say is not always right! I personally never gave my kids any additional sweet things for taste, i always felt that if they didnt expect it then they wouldnt miss it! It actually made no difference to their dental development though - both my two have a few fillings, and we dont eat sweets/fizzy drinks etc at all! I also have asthma myself, and if i eat honey i get wheezy for some reason - so i never risked it with the kids as babies, just in case.
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30 July 2008, 3:45 PM
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pc
Joined 6 Nov 2007
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Hi Laney....yep agree entirely with wot yr sayin...I too ignored my hv advice and did my own thing....and my 3 kids have turned out ok (ish!!!) theory and practice very rarely work out do u find? Half these hvs have no kids..they read it from a book!! I listened a lot to my mom and an old fashioned midwife i had for my 1st boy.....some old wives tales i think are rubbish but some are very true!! I havent had any of my kids immunised..and i have had countless rows with doctors and hospitals about this..i have been called unfit to have children..not caring about my kids..and its me you know who starts diseases goin!! My kids have had colds...cuts grazes bruises etc etc..and one dose of chicken pox..nothin else...my sister has had her kids immunised and her youngest girl has had croup which i think is a form of whoopin cough..so we were told wen she had it....so it aint worked with her has it??and shes had it more than 2 or 3 times...my friends son was immunised but hes had whoopin cough repeatedly...as for this rubbish sayin not to give kids this and not to give them that...use your common sense...my sister in law used to dip her babies dummies into neat honey to keep em quiet!!! but...they have perfect teeth...not overweight..no spots etc etc....same thing with this cot death...they dont know wot causes it but they do a lot of scare mongerin dont u think...wen my kids were babies you had to lay them on alternate sides (correction...were supposed) to avoid a mis shapen head!! I layed my kids anyway i chose to lay them and my kids got normal heads...well maybe not now they grown up!!! LOL LOL I think this politically correct lark has gone too too far now...and its not gettin us very far either is it..look at the world we live in..... caroline
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30 July 2008, 8:48 PM
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Nobby
Joined 26 Feb 2007
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uh i hated the cot-death advice, coz my kids woudl roll onto their bellies no matter what position i'd put them in..and they would only sleep in my bed too... I used to put the to sleep with me, and put them in their cots - then i would check on them a few hours later and have to turn them over, coz they'd rolled onto their bellies, only to wake them up again!! GRR! I did put a rolled up blanket beside them to keep them on their sides but it never worked and then i'd get myself into a frenzy that they'd suffocate on the blanket!! Darn all that BAD advice, and those stupid HV's! I was worrying constantly and getting no sleep. 2nd time around i did it my way, and they are both fine. :-P
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30 July 2008, 10:44 PM
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pc
Joined 6 Nov 2007
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Oh god yeh..i was a nervous wreck especially with my 1st boy..my hv was terrible...only young..no kids...had us here there and everywhere with him cos he didnt do wot he shuda done at wotever age he shuda done it!! Got to these places and was told to take him away he wud do it wen he was ready...made us feel proper fools!!so with 2nd and 3rd boys i did wot i wanted to do...they didnt like it mind..but i still did it!! He!He! think you have to find a happy medium for you all..which works for you all too?? once you achieve that its plain sailin...till they grow up...then it starts again!! dont know which is worse..when kids are young or wen they grow up.....this worryin lark never ends does it?? well i dont mean worse really..i mean more worry for you than at other times.... caroline
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31 July 2008, 7:05 AM
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Laney
Joined 26 Aug 2007
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Snap, same here. Spent the entire first couple of months panicking about nothing, wrapping baby up, propping baby up......next time did it my way, less stress and that was with a toddler! The world has definately gone mad. We live in a lovely place, 25 mins brisk walk into a small but quiet city centre, 5 mins the other way to the river, surrounded by farm land and all the wildlife that goes with it, idyllic. Yesterday, the very odd, but far enough away neighbour rang, my son is feeding her cat from today as they are going away, have spoken to this woman twice in the four years we have been here! She was calling to warn my son, that her paving slabs around her house have 'green stuff' her words not mine, on them and they get slippery when wet, ......she doesn't want to be sued! Can you just believe that!? I think the warnings reguarding honey are just the tip of the iceberg.........can't even allow 14 yr old boy to feed neighbours cat - for which he is being paid a small fortune, in my day...yawn...yawn....you did it for free.....for fear he may slip and we would have to sue.......honestly! And to think its not even 7am and the terrible parent I am, I have let him go and do his paper round, he is covering just about every paper person (that was a big discussion as they have A GIRL!!!! at the shop...!....) this summer, anyone need a loan, just call moneybags aka my son!
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31 July 2008, 2:24 PM
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Nobby
Joined 26 Feb 2007
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How long before hes old enough for marraige?!! lol
I think the real worry and stress starts when they hit the teenage years and start to become independant! For one thing you have to step back and let them make their own mistakes and learn from them...but for another you HAVE to trust them - you have no choice! And its soo disappointing when they make bad decisions, as a parent you question whether you've brought them up incorrectly or something. Boy,am i on a learning curve right now with mine!! lol
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