Hydrogen gas conversions
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Hi Teacher,I made one a bit like this one in the video but a bit cruder,I am now going to make another one from some stainless 1mm sheet,with a bubbler,I used a pickle jar,on a battery charger it drew just over 5 amps so not that much draw,I want one to draw about 10/12amps,my van normaly does26/28 mpg on a run,yesterday I had to go to boston,(linc`s)to collect a fridge for my son,I filled up at asda in nottingham,and had OH,my old mum& 2 grandkids with us and was going to make a day out for us all,we left Nott`m,swithed the HHO genny on with a switch I had resting on the dash,we went to bosten,then to Skegness(packed)and then to Mablethorpe (dead) and then back to nottingham,(switching the HHO jenny off when stopped),when I got back to nottingham,about 8.30pm I went back to Asda and filled up again,it took £31,so heres the calculation,£31 divided by £113.99 Ltr = 27.19 Ltrs,divided by 4.54 =5.99 gallons,206 miles trip divided by 5.99 gallons =34.39 Mpg overall,about an increase of 18/19% the vid is below is of the crude one I made,but I am now going to make one with all the other bits needed,look on the net and just google HHO and you will see a lot of Info.My normaly does around 28 mpg on a run heres the video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5WDd3n......feature=related ___________________ If you can`t do some one a good turn,dont do them a bad one. its nice to be nice yerknow
http://www.dtuls.com/2008/07/install......enerator-hoses/ I am making one on the lines as this one,but again using a large acrylic jar. http://www.findinternettv.com/Video,item,146481454.aspx these are the jars I am using from John lewis. ___________________ If you can`t do some one a good turn,dont do them a bad one. its nice to be nice yerknow
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Thanks for the very informative reply. Is yours the 2.0 litre petrol engine? I get 23-25mpg which is spot on the AutoSleepers specification for the Executive body, when new. Any improvement on this is worthwhile. How often do you need to top up the water jar of your Hydrogen generator and an obvious question, how safe is the device when in use. If you dont mind me asking, are you the guy in the Lincoln area who given the TV and press coverage regarding the device.
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Brown's Gas got the name from Yull Brown, a gifted Bulgarian professor and inventor living in Australia. He was one of the first to note the extraordinary properties of HHO, and to disassociate it cheaply from water. He was also one of the first to use it to power an automobile's internal combustion engine, and to also market it as a welding gas (and one of the first to experience the aura of suppression surrounding this alternative energy). Professor Brown discovered that using relatively small amounts of carefully tuned pulsed electricity across submersed plate electrodes acting as Capacitors can break the atomic bonds of water into HHO thousands of times more efficiently than the old methods of "brute force" high-Amperage systems. This does not break any existing scientific principles: When the "capacitance" of the electrodes are exceeded, there is a large release of energy similar to an over-voltaged electroytic "cap" in a circuit exploding much like a firecracker. And Dr. Brown also found that HHO has several unique properties known in no other energy source. HHO does not have a set burning temperature: It reacts to the substance it is contact with when being burned. It can burn cool enough in air to run a finger through it quickly (about 230 deg. C) ; yet it can sublimate Tungsten at over 6000 deg. C when the flame touches it. As a burning torch, it burns through steel or brick remarkably fast (much faster than oxyacetylene gas mixtures). Yet when burned, HHO has only one byproduct: Pure water. Brown discovered another unique property: When in a "perfect" mixture of 66.67% H to O, it will implode instead of explode (the result of the gas recombining back into water). This implosion produces a huge amount of vacuum energy (around 4 times the amount of energy derived from burning / exploding HHO and air mixtures). Brown was also one of the first to discover that when mixed with Diesel or gasoline fuels, HHO will increase the burning efficiency of the mixture greatly. H burns very quickly, the fastest flame propagation rate of any element. Refined oil products are large complex molecules that burn relatively slowly. When HHO is added to the fuels and ignited, much more of the hydrocarbons are burned fully Creating much cleaner exhaust and more power to the engine. The result is increased gas mileage and smoother running, longer lasting motors that waste much less energy. Depending on the engine, mileage increases of 75% are possible (increases of around 30% are more commonplace with home-made units). This, as a mileage "Booster", is the most popular use for HHO systems today. Sold as kits or simply created at home by tinkerers and would-be inventors, HHO boosters are helping their owners cut pollution and save energy and money all over the world. To modify a car to use HHO Boost is usually quite simple (the disassociated gas is introduced through the air filter); and it works well with gasoline, Diesel, or bio-fuels. The older the engine, the simpler it is to modify: Motors without computers and using carburetors are easiest. ___________________ If you can`t do some one a good turn,dont do them a bad one. its nice to be nice yerknow
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I have been trialing mine with my Vectra which runs on LPG, I also used an old LPG mixer in the air intake to draw the gas. I have only seen minor improvements mainly because mine has not been producing enough gas. How have you achieved the 10 amp draw? is it done by the spacing of the plates? Mike
neg-neu-poss-neu-neg-neu-poss-neu-neg-neu-poss-neu-neg-nue-poss-neu-neg,the amp draw depends on how much eletrolite you add to the distilled water,the eletrolite is just bicarbonated soda,firstly I added a 1/4 steaspoon it drew 2amps so I added another 1/4 and it drew just above 3 amps it is now running on1 & 3/4 teaspoons and drawing 10 amps,also as the genny warm up it produces more and can get quite warm but seems to stablise after a few mins,you will also need good quality wire,I an using about 6mm wire so it does not get hot,adding neutral plates seem to stop amp draw but creates more electrolosis,so it creates more gas when you add more electrolite (soda) some are trying 2 neutral plates in between the poss and neg plates,I may have a go at this myself aswell to see what the results are later,its a bit like trial and error to get the best results at min,the first one I made was just stainless steel wire wound round some platic sheet about 5 inches long and about 2 inches across,with apipe coming out of the plastic jar top and the poss and ney wire doing the same and sealed with silicon sealant connect with crock clipps to the batters and and the protrudind wires for the jar,the poss wire had a swith in between that came through into the cab and resting on the dash,and with no bubbler just strait in to the air intake tube on the air filter right near the carb top,even with this small amount going in I noticed you need less a lot less accelerator to pull away,and beleave it or not the engine seems to run smoother,I think mine (hoping) is producing about 1 to 1,1/2 ltrs a min but wont know till I do a test with the bubbler fitted,if it is producing that ammount I could get arround 50/60% Mpg and dont forget the emisions will go down by that much aswell,,so 10% increase = 10% decrease in emisions and so on. hope this is some help but if you get stuck post it and I will do my best,Pete. ___________________ If you can`t do some one a good turn,dont do them a bad one. its nice to be nice yerknow
Thanks for the reply, I am surprised with the neutral plates. I always thought the + & - had to be next to each other but I suppose this is what trial and error is all about. What is your bubbler design etc? I found that using a lpg mixer which fits on the throttle body & air intake fitted to this works well. A valve can be used in the feed line for control from the generator. Because of the design of the lpg mixer it causes a vacuum in the pipe to the generator so the more throttle the more suction. It may add the HH better. If I get this working well I may even try going through a LPG vapouriser as it has a diagphram which works from vacuum demand so may control the HH even better but these are just thoughts at present. Mike
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I have a turbo diesel, will this work on my Hymer, and would you be willing to build one for me at a price, as I'm usless atanything like this let me know my email address is [Log in to view email] regards Carol Budge
I'm new to this site (and HHO Gas!) and I'm fascinated by it! I've read quite a bit on line about producing the gas, etc., but I wonder if you can bring me up to date on a few things? Apologies for 'picking your brains' but I'm an impatient bugger and you seem to be a bit of an authority on the subject! I've got the basic construction principles ok, but can you give me some idea of: 1. The thickness/gauge of the SS plates 2. The diameter of the tube(s) going to the air intake 3. Where can I get a flash-back arrester from? I don't understand the purpose of the neutral plates. Don't they reduce the surface area of the + & - plates and thus the gas output? And what is the purpose of the bubbler? No doubt I'll be pestering you again, but I'm eager to get something built; I just don't want to blow anything up! Kind regards
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Edited by pete 31 July 2008, 2:21 PM
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