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oh thats close it could be anyday now if you feel to the bottom of her tummy they will be right at the bottom and engaged if she is to have them early and they normally loose slimey stuff before hand. they can grow to around 10 inch for the toys but he was very small at birth so don't think he will get very big at all what a character he has though
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11 August 2008, 10:39 PM
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cavybun
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ow they look so dainty i would love to have 1 do you have a white 1 i love white dogs thanks for the tip i didny know that they are right up near her bits seem to have dropped belly sagging very low if i had one i would be scared to break it they look so glamorous the lady of the dog world
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if she has no spare skin and it is solid all the way to her bits then they are engaged and ready to come any day,want pics when they arrive,if you think poodles are dainty you should see italian greyhounds my friend has them they are like china dolls,don't have any white poodles my mum does i have black blue/grey and chocolate i have bred my little white princess this year she should be due in october and yes they do have papers for those who have asked earlier not that it matters one dot to me it won't inflate thier price she has a ginger boyfriend dying to see what colours they produce she is a pomeranian
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11 August 2008, 10:57 PM
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cavybun
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oh no now i realy wont sleep well she might knock me out with her wind she smells baaaad but that is a staffy trait , :-) her favourite treat is raw brussell sprouts and my husband feeds her jelly beans tut tut she sleeps on my bed but we have a huge welping pen set up for her but she can have them where she wants to and if i dont find suitable homes then i will keep them until i do , post pics of your pups cant wait till october they must be so tiny when they are born like little fluffy hamsters lol
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should really be getting her settled in her whelping pen as soon as my deliahla had hers 3 days early you knida know if they are going to have them when you are awake as they have a real odd look on thier face i like to be there when mine have thiers they get comfort from me being there once she has had them all i put her in the puppy pen so that she has her own private space with a cover over this is princess when she was a baby they are so sweet i'll be wanting to keep them all haha
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11 August 2008, 11:28 PM
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cavybun
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ahhhhhhhhhhh how sweet is that her whelping pen is open she does go in there when she wants space as the children know they are not allowed in there nor is my other dog wish i could train the hubby half so well as the dogs lol :-) if you get orange ones of those you will not be wanting to part with any
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we are hoping for more white as they are hard to come by i had to buy princess from ireland she is the tiny version of my white american akita i lost at 17 would like them to be of mixed colour too red and white would look lovely this is my stanley bear r.i.p
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11 August 2008, 11:42 PM
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cavybun
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aww he realy does look like a bear i lost my red collie very young to cancer we were devastated still miss him he was like a big red wolf with yellow eyes he was called bear , my hubby keeps my feet on the ground when it comes to my animals as i would have so many we would have to extend the house i cant imagine life without my children or my animals why get up in the morning ?
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yeah my partner too or i would have everything living with me and thier would be no room for us haha i know what you mean though when mine are all packed off to friends before i go on holiday the house feels terrible and quiet without them all i'm at a loss and don't know what to do with myself
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12 August 2008, 0:09 AM
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kitty
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angel1 : what is wrong with pet only?? as long as theyre healthy and loved.. as long as they have had all the health checks and so has the male. as long as the breeder does everything in their power to bring them up right. angel isnt kc reg but if she is pregnant her pups are due around the 12th october. how can you call us a backyard breeder after a quick buck.. if we do things right there isnt gonna be much of a profit anways. im doing it for the joy of puppies and because angel has had false pregnancies and has even when not going through a false pregnancy has tried to nurse my younger dog and even teddies. i will be selling my pups as pet only but they will not go to just anyone and i doubt i will make any profit after all i plan to buy and do for angel and the pups. besides if there was any profit ill be spending it on angel and pups. angel is the one doing the work she deserves any profit (if any)
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12 August 2008, 0:15 AM
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kitty
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shrike : i never said that at all.. you asked what the solution is and there really isnt one.. we can all work our butts of for those dogs we can get them new happy homes but that wont stop the next batch coming in and no its not coz of breeders its because of idiotic people who give up on dogs when the novelty wears off or they become too much work... that will never end because you cant change people. they will always be scum.
i did not say we should give up at all
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12 August 2008, 0:18 AM
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kitty
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i think everyone should sit 2 tests before owning a dog... first test on general dog care and second test on the breed they choose to own.. then i think their should be a test before you breed ect.. that way can make sure everyone is doing their research at least
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here here kitty same here it all goes back to my babies too
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12 August 2008, 0:35 AM
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kitty
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right im not being funny shrike yeh and not trying to cause rows but no-one said you dont know what your talking about... but not everyone has to agree with you ok... and i dont know who you think you are saying most of us on this site dont give a damn about our pets because of the species we choose to own or because we choose to breed from our dogs because i can tell ya now ive been on this forum a while now and i know almost everyone on here is great. a few of my fave members being nobby... poodle mad female.. minxii.. nataliee.. there is loads and yes they all DO love there animals as do i.. you have no judgment to tell us we dont care just because you dont agree with us ok.. its called an opinion and your opinion is not the only opinion.. im really sorry if i seemed short or stroppy in this reply but to be honest that because i am kinda pissed off at that comment because i do love my babies their the only thing keeping me here right now and if i choose to breed my dog or i choose to own a monkey then that is my business ok and im not cruel for it. you are not the only animal lover around here
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i did 24 exams on every breed going and passed for my dog grooming diploma so do i pass miss lol
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12 August 2008, 0:42 AM
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kitty
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i dont think the show ring is cruel but some of the owners can be they get very competiive and will scare other dogs in the ring or put substances on your dog to get you disqualified.. i would quite like a show dog when i get more confidence and stuff but i wouldnt get competitive .. it would just be for fun. :)
but like you poodle mad i would much prefer my pups went to the best possible home even if that meant they never went to crufts :)
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thankyou becky glad i am liked by someone haha
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12 August 2008, 0:44 AM
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kitty
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haha cavvy. angel was only mated yesterday and i was waking up at the slightest bang to male sure she wasnt bashing her belly around lol think how i will be in a few weeks lol. oh gosh unbearable by the time she is due (if she is preggers of course) my eyes will be blood shot and ill have a grin ear to ear gritting my teeth like a mad woman hehe
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12 August 2008, 0:45 AM
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Nobby
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In answer to Angels posts - what has paperwork got to do with anything? The KC just confirms you are a member of a club. The person i bought my pup from had KC reg pups. She bred from them constantly and got away with it by not registering every litter, and the dogs were kept in outside stables stuffed with sawdust! I am sure this goes on everywhere. The only reason i took on that pup was to get her out of there as fast as possible! KC papers mean nothing to me, personally as i am not interested in showing my dogs nor breeding them on a regular basis. My girl is a pedigree, i am breeding her and it will improve her line - whether we have KC reg or not. I would not call myself a backyard breeder as its not something i do regularly for profit - this is a one off, with two amazing dogs, to produce equally amazing pups - one of which i would like to keep! Its a personal choice to breed my dog, and my responsibility to ensure it all goes well.
Shrike, i agree with your points about animal cruelty/rehoming etc. I feel i've done my part by being aware and keeping animals which otherwise would be pts by rescue centres. I cannot take on every animal i see which touches my heart - its a lovely idea, but not practical! Pet licenses would only allow people to own animals who can afford licenses - again, people who dont have a huge income would then not have the opportunity to own these amazing animals. I've sed it before - money does not necessarily mean they will be well looked after, nor does a license! How many people do you know who can drive, but not particularly well or responsibly? A license does not ensure anything.
An awareness test sounds like a good idea, to prove they understand the breed they are taking on and it's requirements etc. At least then it will ensure that they know the basics, but still, the rest is up to that particular owner.
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seen and heard of too much cruel stuff that goes on kitty so i for one will never be entering none of mine
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