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You cannot legally tow a 2.5mtr wide van with a freelander. The law states that the towing vehicle must be over 3,500kg weight, which basically is a commercial type of vehicle and the vehicle must be fitted with a tachogragh, although you do not have to use it for towing. If you go back through this site you will find other people have asked the same insurance question and you may find some answers as to insurers, your freelander is not heavy enough to qualify, in fact none of the 4x4s come within that catagory, sorry about that but that is the law. you might find that a double wheelbase transit may meet your requirement, you may also look at http://www.caravanning4u.co.uk that as site has a dedicated Hobby section that could also answer your insurance question.......Phil........
You can get 3.5 ton rated vans these days that are not as large as you might think. I've seen a few semi converted ones around the race tracks we go to with a second row of sets. If you want the caravan as a tourer and don't really want to tow it with a 3.5 commercial van I am affraid to say you might have bought the wrong caravan. If you ok with site based vans then there are a lot of people around that would tow the caravan to site for you for a small fee. Good luck, graham
its a grey area we use a new range rover top pull our vans (romas ) and we have never been stiopped,a range rover is 3500kgs as far as im concerned so exceeding 3500kg means from 3500 upwards,im sure they wouldsplit hairs,saying that if you look dodgy yes you will get a tug,at 1600kgs the hobby is a leihweight compared to some vans i confirmed this with pc pete smith at beds police rgds dan
Did your PC contact put anything in writing? Good luck if you chance it! Regards. Peter
i told him what i understood the law to be and he said well id go with that or what the caravan club says !!! i was amazed ,he said basically youve got a new range rover so its better than a 10 year old mercedes sprinter so what you worrying about ! what an attitude eh ! dan
Was this a caravan accident? Has his insurance companies paid up for both vehicle and caravan damage? Nothing in writing - verbal comments only - nothing confirming insurance cover outside the law ..... Perhaps I've learnt a little now and am being over-cautious. Usually it is a little late once the claims, including those from 3rd parties who are injured, start rolling in and the points get added to your driving licence and the insurance premiums go up rather substantially .... Kind regards. Peter
i know where your coming from from ,i have consulted lewis leyland insurance who sp[ecialises in travelers type insurance and he is with me on this,he can insure hobbys no problem for uk use and he is the oracle whenh it comes to insurance law etc,give him a bell !!! dan
If you do have an accident you might be lucky and get your uninterested plod but you might get the super keen know it all or even a switched on clerk at the insurance Co. trying not to pay out. Just think do you want to risk losing £35k plus of car and caravan. Before you answer back I suggest you look back up this posting as all the correct info is on it, including mine when I wrote to my MEP and she checked with the DTI and vehicle inspectorate. By the way the inspectorate (vosa) are getting out more so watch out for roadside checks. Rob
im happy to stick with th e guides i have been given by the law as if necessary i will drag them into court if i come a croper dan Adverts Currently On Preloved - Place an ad here for free
Much information about this is posted on http://www.thecaravanownersclub.co.uk which is the old Hobby owners club and also under the Hobby sections on http://www.caravanning4u.co.uk
lewis thinks different,the coppers think different and most people on this site so un til i get busted i shall carry on regardless ! happy caravanning dan
We have a large Hobby and we towed with an LDV minibus 3500kgs thinking we were legal, after someone pointed out that it should 3501kgs and we were NOT legal, we now tow with Mercedes S500 - not that much of a mismatch really but still illegal and pulls far better than the minibus did. I know of a few Hobby owners that tow illegally also, you pays your money and takes your choice and may the force be with you. Jan
Have you got anything in writing from your experts as i can guarantee they will deny everything. If the accident is your fault not only could you lose your outfit but also have to pay OUT OF YOUR OWN POCKET the third parties costs. (dont run into another brand new RR and legal caravan or else you could be forking out £120k+!!! I copied this post from peter from this discussion last year Hi HH and other readers, I can answer yes to several of your questions. I had my 2.5er written off when some chump was tailgating and couldn't do an emergency stop. I was done for £1000 plus three points for driving without valid insurance. My caravan insurers refused to pay up for a replacement van because I had been done in court for driving illegally. The tailgater's insurers wouldn't pay up because I was towing illegally and shouldn't have been on the road. My car insurance went up because of the court case ...... I was the innocent party in a nasty pile up yet I was the one that lost some £17000 +. Incidentally, I had a confirmation letter from my original supplier saying it was OK to tow the wide van in the UK if the towing vehicle could handle it! I tried to claim from this guy but was informed, in the small print, that purchasers must confirm suitability before purchase. I've now got a 2.3er and am quite satisfied with this for in the UK. Once the other side of the water I collect my new 2.5er and enjoy the extra comforts for the six months spent in Spain. So, you take your chances with the 2.5ers and it is your loss if things go wrong. Safe towing. Peter
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