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Making your motorhome legal
21 October 2009, 1:15 PM
Orlando
Joined 15 Sep 2007
21 posts

Hi, I'm buying a motorhome in March 2010. I'll be over from Australia and buying privately in the UK. Can anyone tell me what I have to look out for in order to make sure the vehicle is legal to drive in UK and Europe? - registrations, insurances etc.

Oh, also - should I be looking for a LH drive, as I'll be spending most time on the Continent?

Thanks


Making your motorhome legal
23 October 2009, 6:17 PM
keith
Joined 7 Feb 2005
1387 posts

Hi, i sold my motor home to an aussie family who were going to tour for 3 months, last yr.
You need the van to have an MOT certificate, hopefully valid for a year, certainly 9 months left on it, its a safety check to make sure its roadworthy, its illegal to drive it without one in the U.K.
You will also need road fund licence, called road tax, again a legallity in U.K.
Finally you'll need europe wide insurance.
A left hooker is as you say a good idea if you are touring europe, you may buy it cheaper here but of course you'll have to sell it cheaper here, so it may be wise to sell it over there at the end of your tour.
Keith...


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Making your motorhome legal
24 October 2009, 2:29 AM
Orlando
Joined 15 Sep 2007
21 posts

Hi Keith,

Thanks so much for the prompt reply. I notice a lot of MHs for sale include info about time left on MOT, but I wasn't sure about the road tax (what we call 'vehicle registration' here) and of course insurance.

At the risk of stretching the friendship, can you give me the roughest estimate of cost for the three items for a period of 12 months? As for insurance, I'd probably not go with comprehensive because it's usually very expensive - I thought for a second-hand van I'd go for something a little more basic. Here we have an insurance that's half the cost of comprehensive, which is called 'Third Party, fire and theft'. Does such an option exist in UK/Europe?

Many thanks,

Orlando


Making your motorhome legal
24 October 2009, 9:24 AM
keith
Joined 7 Feb 2005
1387 posts

Hi Orlando, MOT test costs about £40 now, but no one even considers buying a vehicle without one if they want to use it soon, so you should look for a minimum term left on it of 6 months & you will have problems selling it if theres not much left on it.
There are big changes in the taxation classes of vehicles at the moment, all down to how green the emissions are, my old car with its 2.5 litre engine was going up to £410 per year, so i bought a more economical one which is only £120 per year, I believe older cars, vans etc will be fixed at about £200 per year.
Insurance is rather odd over here, I think you'll find you can get fully comp much cheaper than third party fire & theft, its strange but it seems most good ins companys don't want the business so dont quote, leaving dearer company's to come in at higher prices, & I would imagine specialist vehicles would be even more so, but I could be wrong.
I think the young inexperienced drivers get tpft cheaper but not older drivers.
If possible it would be wise to take out a comprehensive breakdown cover as well.
Having had 2 camper vans when we were younger & a motorhome for a year we have gone back to a caravan, i found that once you sited it, it was a pain to take the motorhome out to tour around, on many occasions my pitch was stolen, or on open field type pitches someone was parked too close even when the detachable awning was left up & we had to ask them to move to connect to the awning again, i also found that there was very little space in a motorhome even when it looked a fair sized motorhome from the outside, plus you get a whole hell of a lot more caravan for your money than motorhome & if i was to tour europe thats what i would want to be in, but thats my personal choice.
Hope this helps,
Keith...


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Making your motorhome legal
24 October 2009, 12:02 PM
Orlando
Joined 15 Sep 2007
21 posts

Hi Keith,

Thanks so much for all the help - really appreciate it. While I agree with you about the mobliity issues with a motorhome, for us it will be the easier option, as we don't want to have to invest in a car AND a caravan. If you start off with a car, then you'd probably be mad going for a motorhome as well, I agree.

Thanks again and all the best,

Orlando



Making your motorhome legal
5 November 2009, 6:11 AM
Orlando
Joined 15 Sep 2007
21 posts

Keith,

Hi it's me again.

You mentioned in your other email reply to me that MHs are never quite as big as you think they are. This got me thinking about little annoyances like foldaway beds, access to and from the cab, storage space, things like that.

With your experience of MHs, do you have any advice on what to look for in a motorhome, or rather what to watch out for? After all, my partner and I are going to have to LIVE in the thing for as much as twelve months - we get on each other's nerves enough living in a house - I assume living in a MH will present new horrors.

Cheers,

Orlando


Making your motorhome legal
5 November 2009, 9:01 AM
-  Edited by keith 5 November 2009, 9:06 AM
keith
Joined 7 Feb 2005
1387 posts

Hi again Orlando, i dont really have any tips when it comes to motor homes, as i said no matter how big they look from the outside, they seem very restricted in space inside, i personally refused to move onto motor homes when asked by my former company, i said if they forced me to then i would quit, i just don't like them at all, even though I had previously owned a small Fiat, a VW camper & a much larger Renault traffic.
I felt that I am just too big (read fat) to work in such restricted spaces like motorhome cupboards.
You have to pay through the nose to buy one, i cannot see how you can buy something cheaper which is modern & reliable enough to tour europe rather than buy a car & caravan combo, my former company didn't have a motor home on stock for less than about 8 grand, i could buy a mid 90s dry clean van for around 2 grand & a decent tow car for the same, if not less.
I saw a decent Avondale caravan on ebay for £1400 last week, I'm thinking of bidding for it myself.
Anyway each to his own, I hope you find a decent vehicle, you are probably better going for a smaller van with free standing awning rather than as large as you can afford, that way you will generate far more space than a larger van & your missus can always chuck you out when she's had enough of you & you'll still have a bed to sleep in. LOL
Keith...
P.s after re reading your postings I did have one thought, you said should you go for left hand drive yes you should, whichever you choose, left hookers will be cheaper to buy in the Uk, but more so cars than motor homes.


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Making your motorhome legal
5 November 2009, 1:17 PM
Orlando
Joined 15 Sep 2007
21 posts

Thanks again Keith, you're a mine of useful information (but don't worry I won't make a habit of bugging you). We actually have a budget set of aroung $25,000 AUD for the MH, which at current exchange rates is about 13.5k pounds. I would have thought we could buy something half decent for that. But I take on board what you say about the car/caravan combo - it's not beyond possibility that we may go for that option (though I would have thought the big drawback would be trying to get through populated areas with a long articulated vehicle - bit tricky for parking too). But we still have five months to weigh up the pros and cons.

Once again, thanks ever so much for your great info. All the very best,

Orlando


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