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new member, Derek Pitman
27 October 2009, 9:56 PM
dc
Joined 15 Jul 2009
3 posts

Hello everyone. What a great site, a wealth of information and all given freely. Late July I bought a '91 Talbot Autoquest 400, our first 'Motorhome' though previously we have had two VW's. Have of course been away in it, three times, three nights each, in mid-week and have thoroughly enjoyed the experiences of space and comfort of a motorised caravan. Also what a great feeling of camaraderie when greeting a fellow traveller with a wave in passing, then shamefully looking out for the next one to wave at, such is the warmth of human nature. On the more serious side though, my van though old, is good looking, drives well and is comfortable, However my gear lever waves around like a drunken semaphorist, but I'm just about managing it with no problems when on the open road and travelling. My only anxiety is when at a road junctions in traffic and trying to find first gear in a hurry, though eventually I find it and the panics over. These incidents have however had me nightly scouring this forum for a solution. Susequently I read all that I can from this site and have endevoured to replace the gear box 'O' ring, but I cannot unscrew the bush housing, too tight.
In the meantime I telephoned Mike Chubb's number and spoke to a very helpful gentleman there who talked me through their procedures, ie take the gear box off and apply a little heat. This process however is beyond my capability, so he then told me to look elsewhere, at the bottom of the gear lever there is apparently an 8mm bolt which is prone to wear. Replace this bolt and tighten with oversize washers and that will take up much of the slack that is tranferred to the gear lever. I will attempt this this coming week end and would appreciate any help that you have to offer. Once again great site, keep waving.

new member, Derek Pitman
27 October 2009, 10:44 PM
Mr Dutch
Joined 25 Aug 2008
684 posts

Hi dc,
The bush housing is tightened to something like 80 lbs ft (I think!). You need a good-fitting spanner (can't remmber the size) and a hammer. If you can't get a spanner short enough, it's worth sacrificing one by cutting it in half to get it positioned. A few taps with the hammer will start it unscrewing, but be careful as the bush comes loose as the shaft is spring-loaded and could jump up out of the selector rods as the bush comes out. The secret is to maintain downward pressure on the bush as you unscrew it.
Hope that helps
Regards
D


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new member, Derek Pitman
28 October 2009, 8:35 AM
-  Edited by suntrecker 28 October 2009, 8:36 AM
suntrecker
Joined 8 Mar 2009
48 posts

Hi dc, welcome to this great site. we have an Autoquest 320 1994 and at one stage had play in the gear lever and had it done at Delfindesigns who did a great job BUT if you can do it yourself thats great. I can't offer advice.......did not have the "guts" to have a go myself although do most things. Regards Chris

new member, Derek Pitman
28 October 2009, 10:08 AM
SteveJ
Joined 10 Jan 2008
251 posts

dc,

The O-Ring housing unscrews anticlockwise, use a large adjustable or if really stuck a pipe wrench (will mangle the top of the housing slightly, althernatively get a mobile mechanic to pop round and loosen it for you (perhaps after you've taken off the other bits if you want to save a bit of cash, but its only an hour's work even with everything in place).

There are a few places that can contribute so have feel of the linkages before diving in. If you have a lot of lateral (sideways) movment on the shaft that enters the top of the Gearbox then its pretty pointless doing anything else until this is sorted.

Regards, Steve


new member, Derek Pitman
29 October 2009, 9:33 AM
dc
Joined 15 Jul 2009
3 posts

Hello guys, thanks for your interest and information I have taken all of your advice into consideration and will start the job this week end [weather permitting, Im not undercover] and will report later on my progress, thanks all, keep waving. DC.


new member, Derek Pitman
29 October 2009, 9:58 PM
foxyj
Joined 7 Aug 2009
6 posts

Hi Derek, I have recently fitted a new O ring bush to my citroen c25 campervan.
I also had trouble removing that bush housing,it can be tight. That idea of Mr. Dutch is the key, sacrifice a good spanner, cut it shorter.

I found an old imperial size spanner slightly too small then opened one side up on a bench grinder until it would just hammer on tightly. Cut it down to about 5 inches or so then use a lump hammer to tap it loose, it WILL come off. Try it cheers Foxyj.


new member, Derek Pitman
30 October 2009, 6:49 PM
swifty
Joined 26 Jul 2009
25 posts

Hi Derek

Have just bought a 1990 model Autoquest having also had VW's so far I am well pleased, rust free (surprisingly) except ford sink waste tank which needs replacing otherwise very clean all round, just wish it had a VW engine

old but good looking Eh? Sounds like me!

Swifty

ps mines has green trim


new member, Derek Pitman
1 November 2009, 8:24 PM
dc
Joined 15 Jul 2009
3 posts

Hi Mr Dutch, Suntrecker, Steve, Foxyj and Swifty.
Many thanks for your input into the subject of my Talbot gear linkage. This Saturday I started again. I put the linkage back together [having briefly tried to undo the bush housing then chickened out, frightened of breaking the ally casting and mauling the two flanges totally. I then proceeded as explained to me and concentrated on the linkage directly underneath the gear lever. I put the van on two front ramps and then with plenty of room I was then able to get two spanners on this linkage and proceeded to tighten up. The free play felt minimal, though I was able to get get several part turns of the spanner. When finally completed I sat in the cab and tried the gears and that alone felt so much better with the slackness now gone. I have as yet only shunted it back and forth in my driveway, shortly I will road test it. So once again everyone thanks for all your words of encouragement.

Keep Waving DC.

Just another observation, and this is respectfully directed at Delfins who make their own precisioned replacement of this bush housing, why did they not when engineering this bush housing, redesign/replace the two flat flanges with a conventional ring spanner fitment or at least four flat flanges to enable easier undoing in the future. [short of time tonight, but I will Enquire directly to them shortly. DC


new member, Derek Pitman
1 November 2009, 8:38 PM
Spare Me.
Joined 7 May 2009
7 posts

Ref the Delfin Bush.... there are other questions you could pose to them as well, such as if the tollerance is finer to take up claimed wear in the middle part of the shaft then how does it manage to fit over the upper (clearly unworn) part? I suspect they are using the terms precision and redesigned rather loosely!

Read back through the main Talbot express thread and see for yourself. :-o


new member, Derek Pitman
2 November 2009, 0:40 AM
Mr Dutch
Joined 25 Aug 2008
684 posts

I'm with you, Spare Me!!
Think about it; the only thing in the bush that makes contact with the shaft is the 'O' ring. There is no metal-to-metal contact at all until the O ring wears sufficiently, so it doesn't matter how 'precise' the hole in the bush is (except that the finer the tolerance (gap) is, between the bush and the shaft, the quicker the wear in the shaft (and bush) will take place!)


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