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Vauxhall Astra
10 August 2004, 12:29 PM
ChrisD
Joined 23 Jul 2004
5 posts

Well the car hasn't actually cut out yet but the ECU light keeps coming on. It will come on for a minute or so then go off, its done this 5 times since my last message. So my confidence in the car once again has been shattered and i am dreading the moment the car cuts out again.

Vauxhall Astra
10 August 2004, 11:56 PM
Rob (Downunder)
Joined 6 Aug 2004
3 posts

Not sure what motor you have but the "air mass sensor" might need replacing. Got this hint from the vauxhall TIS CD. I have the double overhead cam ecotec 1.8L version.

Vauxhall Astra
12 August 2004, 10:20 PM
nick
Joined 13 Jul 2004
25 posts

Don't screap the thermostat. there's a temp. marked on it [e.g.89(no degree sign to use)], where the thing opens. Check it in heating to boiling water with a jam thermometer. suspend the theremstat on wire in the water so it doesn't toucn the pan sides 2 get a god reading.
Scrapping the item from the engine would just let it run cold, causing other problems, in the long run expensive[?].

P.S. WHERE IS the thermostat on a mk. 3?
ours i think is spent-- running @ 9o degrees C.. smells of hot engine.

N

Vauxhall Astra
1 September 2004, 8:46 PM
nick
Joined 13 Jul 2004
25 posts

I've just sorted the 'cut out'problem on our astra. Now we've just got to get used to it being a reliable car again.

The trick? The ignition switch had pitting on the contacts. This I cleaned up with wet & dry. The car has started since so I conclude this was the problem.

It's not something that would show up on any diagnostics and awkward to get to, [you have to take the steering wheel off], but the metals they've used are nothing special and seem to burn easily.

If you've got this kind of problem on this age of car, it's probably worth checking out.

please let me have your thoughts

Nick

Vauxhall Astra
2 September 2004, 6:52 AM
Simon
Joined 2 Sep 2004
1 posts

Am I suffering from same problem? '98 Vauxhall Astra 1.6i Estate. Lost all power and would not start, burning smell from starter motor. Garage replaced starter motor. 2 weeks later repeat of problem.


Vauxhall Astra
2 September 2004, 9:25 AM
nick
Joined 13 Jul 2004
25 posts

I wouldn't have thought so. Our fault is intermittant. sometimes it went others just not. short journeys were worst.

Check fuel [with ours you can hear the pump running when stopped cranking]& ofcourse smell.

we had no spark from lead to distributor.

sorry I can't be of more help, I don't know if the ign. switch is the same and I suspect it would take longer to pit up, though it might be worth a look though it's quite a job on the mk3.

regards

Nick

P.S. I have a chordless drill that smells of burning when overworked but I haven't replace it. Vauxhall seem to replace rather than fix..I think these cars have a few faults which get overlooked. Maybe try http://www.migweb.co.uk


Vauxhall Astra
2 September 2004, 12:02 PM
ChrisD
Joined 23 Jul 2004
5 posts

Well it has been several weeks since i last posted anything. The ECU light on my car is now coming on a lot less often. When it has been coming on I have been ignoring it as the car doesn't seem to drive any differently. The car hasn't cut out either so as far as I am concerned it's fixed. I guess I may have a dodgy sensor but I am no too worried about that just yet

Vauxhall Astra
2 September 2004, 1:41 PM
nick
Joined 13 Jul 2004
25 posts

I think new parts help the system keep going. the previous owner had lots of new bits inc. coil.
Our mechanic told me the ing. switch was all that was left except the wiring
[and petrols don't get as much chaffing damage as on the diesels].
New bits may give the little boost needed to overcome resistance build up in the switch.



Vauxhall Astra
7 September 2004, 11:18 AM
cyberpuzz
Joined 7 Sep 2004
1 posts

I've read these threads with great interest. I have a 1994 L reg auto Astra with 75k on it. Just last week (day before due to drive to Nottingham) my car died on me on the M1. It would turn over but just not fire. I called breakdown and next day replaced the ignition pack ('distributor cap' bit) with friend from CVauxhall...and the car started fine. Drove it for about 10 miles, bit spluttery and very dull sounding revs, slight metally sounding rattle and it conked out a mile after being stopped and restarted. Am having the cam belt replaced tomorrow as it needs it anyway (breakdown guy also mentioned that it was loose). Does this sound like the same sort of problem you are all having? Have printed out all this stuff to show him and see what he thinks.

Vauxhall Astra
10 September 2004, 9:03 PM
Neiljohn
Joined 10 Sep 2004
3 posts

Hummm, my 1.4i '92 L astra died today, its started stuttering then just stopped. The cause? The plastic drive peg on the bottom of the distributor broke off, because the shaft/bearing lube has dried out and put too much load on it. Just hoping the stealer has the part in the morning, or the scrappies do, or its down the dump with it!

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Vauxhall Astra
10 September 2004, 10:03 PM
jason
Joined 10 Sep 2004
17 posts

hello fellow sufferers....94 astr 1.4 at least I'm not alone...same problem cutting out etc...all your comments are helpful, have printed them. I had a micra and changed everything, slowly one by one and was anervous wreck on every long journey!!!! know thwe feeling..driving from scotland to wales in 2 days 650 miles..Dont know what to change first? would change the car but like the micra its a great car otherwise....I wish it would just pack in and hope the aa guy could enlighten me as to what it is....imagine the joy and release.....ps ..at high speeds it hasnt so far happened...2 days ageo I excitedly headed for the garage where he was waiting with diagnostic machine at the ready....Ispluttered in and it suddenly self healed again right in front of us...a possible clue surely is that the revs sometimes go up and down to a splutter when it happens while idling, also it always restarts if it does cut out

Vauxhall Astra
15 September 2004, 9:07 AM
nick
Joined 13 Jul 2004
25 posts

ours tends to cut out mostly on short journeys. If I stop off halfway through my journey home [15-20 miles total], then it messes about but starts after repeated tries/rests. If we jump in the car and go eg in a hurry, then no dice!
It seems to need care and coaxing but it's strange having to playing psychological games with a car. This has failed too. Yes i'm still having problems but am using the car 'confidently'[?], for work and definatly for longer journeys.

Vauxhall Astra
15 September 2004, 10:37 AM
Rob (Downunder)
Joined 6 Aug 2004
3 posts

After much research and buying CD's evaluating the info... getting dealers wanting thousands for new car computers. I finally tried a simple thing. I tensioned up the accelerator cable so that the lever sits 2mm off the rest position on the throttle.

This is achieved by removing the retaining clip on the accelerator cable knobbly sheaf, pulling back the cable and slipping the retaining clip back in, all took about 2 minutes.

Have had no adverse effects since then.

The car may stall again after the cable has stretched, just make sure it sits off the stop position by 2mm.

I have the 1.8L DOHC motor, sold here as a Holden 97 TR Astra GL.

Good Luck!!


Vauxhall Astra
23 September 2004, 8:21 PM
stef
Joined 23 Sep 2004
1 posts

I have aastra 1.4 98 the information screen that gives the tep, date & time also the radio stations has gone off, everything else works. Is there something that just controls this.


Hoping Stef

Vauxhall Astra
23 September 2004, 10:42 PM
jason
Joined 10 Sep 2004
17 posts

dear stef
I have the remedy for you....1..clench fist..2..raise clenched fist above dasboard directly above screen problem....3...bash fist hard on dash....screen will appear as if by magic......I mean it !!!..try it
Oh and also mine showed - 25 degrees last winter...and even up here in scotland that aint possible
Jason


Vauxhall Astra
23 September 2004, 11:06 PM
jason
Joined 10 Sep 2004
17 posts

Hi Nick
Jason...also cut out probs...Just drove 1300 miles in my astra..at speed its fine, but as you at low speeds often problems....
A huge clue is from a mechanic I met yesterday who said because the revs go up when it almost cuts out at tickover means that it could be the 'thingey' in the alternator...because he said that when it tries to cut out the automatic choke tries to cut in when it re splutters and catches again.....
He also has had a steering wheel off on one as (was it you nick ?)..and cleaned the ignition contacts
He said that it isnt that with mine as that wouldnt make the revs go higher at tickover...and coil also wouldnt....he mentioned ecu....crank sensor...relay...but was convinced ...after seeing it was an original bosch alternator..that if I changed it I would have a big chance of success...but as I previously mentioned...after changing EVERYTHING electrical on a Nissan once and still to no avail....I'm reluctant
What do you reckon fellow sufferers............
Jason

Vauxhall Astra
25 September 2004, 10:21 PM
nick
Joined 13 Jul 2004
25 posts


"drive through" problems..crank sensor apparantly isn't one of them.
we had our car checked out by the mechanic & electrical guy he'd learnt his stuff from and they reconed everything was o.k. it should have started. they changed the main, 'king' coil lead and it went. thought they'd fixed it.

I walked home 6-8 miles last week as the battery was starting to go flat. next morning i had a mate [a mechanic also], help recover the car. it started first time and i drove it home. i got out and said 'now, count to ten'.... it was worth it for the look on his face. this car is marvelously obedient. it wouldn't go / then go, start, run a while then stop, no particular pattern except very unreliable.
My mate noticed that the "flat box" under the coil hadn't been replaced [almost everything else ing. wise else has]. Next week i'll be getting one [hopfully fully working!], from a scrap yrd then start using the car again. when the fault occurs, i'll swap the boxes.
if i'm still getting problems the garage fella said he'd take another look at it, though he's, as said, been all over it already.

i've almost given up.

we bought an astra and it turns out a no-va.....spanish for 'no-go', they had to change the name in the states, i heard....

regards

nick

P.S. if you turn the steering wheel 90 degrees you can get at the screws. my mate pointed this out to me.
i'm not sure if we have the same problem... does yours mess about on short journeys?

Vauxhall Astra
25 September 2004, 10:45 PM
nick
Joined 13 Jul 2004
25 posts

any recent developments?

Vauxhall Astra
26 September 2004, 0:30 AM
jason
Joined 10 Sep 2004
17 posts

Thanks for yours Nick
'At the moment' when mine cuts out it starts again straight away...the learned mechanic is adament that this rules out the ignition , and coil as they would take at least a few seconds to recover..he's convinced that its (whatever he said it was in the alternator) thats the problem and almost convinced me to change it as mine is an original bosch unit(my car has done 65000 miles from new)
I drove 1500 odd miles in the last 2 weeks from scotland to wales and back at 60 to 85/90 mph all the way...no splutters at this speed
He rules out fuel relay because with mine at idle when its playing up the revs almost cut out then go up quite high then low again which he said must be the auto choke coming back in...hes convinced its alternator...though I'm still waiting for symptoms to get worse
Next week I pick my friend up from E'dinburgh airport and back(6 hour trip) and will drive 700 more miles showing him round
On a + note..arent astras amazing vehicles!
An aa guy once said to me....excellant engines but all the bolt on stuff is a pain in the u know what
Happy splutterings....
Jason

Vauxhall Astra
26 September 2004, 0:35 AM
jason
Joined 10 Sep 2004
17 posts

Jason again
I reckon be in the aa and hope that it packs in altogether...I'm playing it by ear and will change my alternator first if it completely grinds to a halt
Will keep you all updated
Take it easy
Jason

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