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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
16 May 2005, 9:08 PM
Seejays
Joined 16 May 2005
5 posts

Hi,
Noticed you had downloaded the manuals for the Carver Cascade Mk II - are they accessible please? Maybe you could advise of your web page? Many thanks.
Regards,
Seejays

ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
16 May 2005, 9:28 PM
lancashirecouple
Joined 10 May 2005
7 posts

Hi Seejays,

Because ive had plenty of help on this forum here from Gary ,

heres a link i found for manuals.

http://www.faultfinder.freeserve.co.uk/cascade%20manual.html

http://www.faultfinder.freeserve.co.uk/manuals.html

Hope this ok with moderators.

Pete


ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
16 May 2005, 10:30 PM
-  Edited by gary 16 May 2005, 11:56 PM
gary
Joined 13 Mar 2002
2207 posts

Here's a better link..and it is on page 4 of this thread on this forum??

http://www.ukwebb.plus.com/cascade/

Edited


ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
16 May 2005, 10:57 PM
Seejays
Joined 16 May 2005
5 posts

Thanks Pete for your assistance, will follow all instructions and see if we can get it going.

Regards,

Seejays


ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
16 May 2005, 11:34 PM
Seejays
Joined 16 May 2005
5 posts

Many thanks for such useful info...will try again tomorrow night!!

Regards



ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
18 May 2005, 0:12 AM
Seejays
Joined 16 May 2005
5 posts

Hi Gary,
Thanks for all info and links to manuals - now safely printed off. Unfortunately we may have jumped the gun prior to receiving & reading manual and when trying to switch on heater via gas (& leisure battery) the water heater starts off ok (green light comes on) but then the fuse keeps blowing at the remote wall switch. Any suggestions?
Regards,
Seejays

ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
18 May 2005, 0:36 AM
gary
Joined 13 Mar 2002
2207 posts

Depends on which fuse is blowing?
if it's positive then the fault will be more likely within the heaters system and the common suspect will be the gas valve stuck down. Try bridging the fuse with a pair of 'bull nose' pliers or similar for a second..no more!!, do this once or twice only and if it frees the valve all well and good and it should be fine afterwards on the 1amp fuse.
If it's the negative fuse then the problem will be with out? which means something else in the van has a bad earth and it is trying to use the heater connection to earth and overloading it. In this case I would look at the battery charger connections first

ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
20 May 2005, 3:39 PM
Andy
Joined 20 May 2005
3 posts

hi,
i wonder if you could help we have recently bought a lunar saturn 1994 model that is fitted with a cascade 2 water heater. we have used the van twice with no problems then we went away last weekend the heater worked fine the first day and the second it just started clicking as though it couldnt ignite that is when we use it on gas, when we use on electric its fine
many thanks
andy

ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
22 May 2005, 4:41 PM
gary
Joined 13 Mar 2002
2207 posts

Hi Andy, the simple answer from what you say is to replace the 'burner module' which cures 99.9% of all known faults.
When you say '"clicking" what do you mean? you should hear a 'clunk' as the gas valve opens and then about 8 seconds of 'ticking' which is the spark.
If you remove the outer plastic cowl and the inner aluminium plate behind that and there is little or no wind then you can then watch what is happening outside while someone switches on and off inside, but be careful and if you are in any way worried about doing this get someone in to check it for you.

ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
22 May 2005, 4:59 PM
gibola
Joined 22 May 2005
3 posts

hi can anyone tell me where i can purchase a peizo igniter for a carver trumatic 3000 caravan heater as my local distributer seems to be having probs sourcing one

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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
22 May 2005, 6:42 PM
Andy
Joined 20 May 2005
3 posts

hi gary,
thanks for your reply, we have done what you suggested and it sparks and ticks but no gas seems to be getting through.
do you do and exchange on burner modules and if so at what cost and how quickly can you return
many thanks
andy

ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
22 May 2005, 11:42 PM
gary
Joined 13 Mar 2002
2207 posts

Hello again Andy, £63 is the cost with 6 month warranty.
Send a cheque to Arc Systems at the address on my website and I send one out, you then return your old one in the same box.
If you ring Monday I will be better able to say if I can be certain to get you one out this week as I am away for Whit week and trying to clear the decks!!
Gary
http://www.arcsystems.biz

ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
23 May 2005, 0:17 AM
gary
Joined 13 Mar 2002
2207 posts

A Carver 3000 is really a Truma 3002 which means the dealers normally look on the wrong page for spares which are identical except unfortunately the Piezo which is the only part that is different and no longer listed 'as such'.
The first thing to try is taking it to bits and cleaning it, the cap at the top will pop off and a hair dryer to warm the cap helps, after that clean up the contacts and reassemble...I've fixed quite a few doing this.
I am not sure of just what this one looks like but if you can email a picture I think I can match it if you fail to make yours work as they are not distinct to [Log in to view email]

ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
23 May 2005, 8:43 AM
Richard
Joined 4 Apr 2005
8 posts

Hi Gary

Recieved the water heater Saturday morning, all plumbed in and working by lunchtime. Thanks very much for your excelent repair service and advise. Richard


ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
23 May 2005, 9:19 PM
gibola
Joined 22 May 2005
3 posts

hi gary unfortunately the peizo is in the hands of my local dealer at the moment trying to source a new one
I wont be in touch with him untill the end of the week
I dont think mine can be repaired as the lug at the bottom of the igniter (where the igniter cable attaches ) has brocken off and there does not seem to be a spark when depressed
as soon as i get mine back i will send you a photo and see if you can match it
much obliged to you


ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
23 May 2005, 9:56 PM
gary
Joined 13 Mar 2002
2207 posts

That's fine only I am away all of Whit week so won't be around till Sunday week
Gary

ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
24 May 2005, 10:16 AM
njw
Joined 24 May 2005
2 posts

hi iv recently bought a caravan 2nd hand. fleetwood garland 114-2... its got a cascade burner in it.. think van is about 11 years old or so.. previous owner had un plugged elec lead to small tank for hot water,n so we re connected it thinking thats why no hot water.. anyway looks like it faulty, as it sparks up then quickly ignites. seconds later it checks out / andf red light on the panel box in caravan goes on.. any idea,s? rang caravan place they say it more than likely i need a new module burner box to fit in it,.#99.00 pounds! phew ! is there an cheaper alternitive? thanks mick mobile 07732 815278.. email nick_wallwork@ hotmail.com

ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
24 May 2005, 12:32 PM
Dave
Joined 25 Oct 2004
15 posts

Look back through some of the previous Q&As. Somtimes removing the burner / Control Unit and putting it in a warm place (ie airing cupboard) overnight will sort it. If not Gary can provide a recon unit for about £64.

ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
24 May 2005, 12:34 PM
Dave
Joined 25 Oct 2004
15 posts

Sorry it's only £63 !

ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
24 May 2005, 1:32 PM
gary
Joined 13 Mar 2002
2207 posts

Bliemy I've not gone yet!!!
but thanks Dave your advice is spot on!... it's nice to know someone will keep the thread running while I am away
carry on the good work
regards
Gary

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