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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
12 September 2008, 9:42 PM
Ron
Joined 12 Sep 2008
3 posts

Hi all
Can any one help me i have just bought a ABI viceroy jubiley 4birth caravan it is fitted with a carver 1800 gas fire but the control knob and rod is missing could any one supply me with replacements please.
Or advise where i could obtain them.
Many thanks Ron

ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
13 September 2008, 2:45 PM
Belle
Joined 4 May 2008
9 posts

Is there anyone out there that lives in the Maidstone area and owns a Peugeot Camelot with a Carver Mk2 heater? We took ours out to replace some bushes we got from Gary and now find that we have two wires but no where to connect them to! Perhaps we could look at another camper with the same or perhaps be sent a pic. to help us put it together again. Of course nothing works until we do..... HELP, HELP. Belle

ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
13 September 2008, 10:43 PM
Ron
Joined 12 Sep 2008
3 posts

Hi all
Does not seem like people visit this section on a daily basis as i posted a wanted part for a carver 1800 fire but have not received any answers yet.
This time i am posting this for any help on my abi gas oven it is a rose the countess when lit it stays alight while you hold in the control button but goes out as soon as you release it. from my experience this is usually caused by a fault thermocouple. what info i need is can you use any universal thermocouple or does it have to be a special due to the fact it is (lpg ) and if it does can any one tell me where i can get a replacement.

Many thanks Ron


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14 September 2008, 2:22 PM
Peter
Joined 27 Oct 2006
159 posts

Hello Gary,
I have a cascade 2 GE hot water system with a Truma control module in my Talbot Autohomes Avalon camper and the hot tank is leaking---not too sure where from but I think it could be where the tank fits to the casting or the casting itself.
What I would like to know is,can it be repaired or will it have to be replaced.I understand that Carver no longer do these systems and that Truma are not completely compatible.
I would appreciate your advice please.
Many thanks
Peter


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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
14 September 2008, 10:30 PM
gary
Joined 13 Mar 2002
2288 posts

Blimey Ron you posted on Friday and it's only Sunday... the weekend!!
I do try to answer every day but I've other things to do?

The 1800 might be a problem, don't remember the connection this uses but it's probably been nicked if it's the scarce one?! I'll have a look and see what needed on tomorrow
Better news with the thermocouple, as long as they fit there otherwise all the same.


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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
14 September 2008, 10:48 PM
gary
Joined 13 Mar 2002
2288 posts

Belle, I didn't sell you any 'bushes' what do you mean?
As for the wires, can you email a picture? and how would these two wires connect, what's on the end of them?

I can say the Carver Cascade does not have two wires, the gas side is connected to the control switch with a plug, the mains with a three wire mains flex.
The 'Henry' copy Cascade however uses two green wires with spade connections to a thermostat in the top right corner of the heater, other side to the hot water outlet.
These wires are from the loom to the control switch.




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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
15 September 2008, 0:18 AM
Ron
Joined 12 Sep 2008
3 posts

Sorry Gary
But usually the t.v groups that i am in you get answers within a couple of hours so i get a bit inpatient sorry and thank you for coming back to me.
Can now sort thermocouple but await your reply on carver 1800.
Many thanks Ron

ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
15 September 2008, 11:47 PM
dale_hopkinson
Joined 15 Sep 2008
15 posts

Hi all. Just got my first caravan! All working lovely but stuck with the Cascada Mk1 1978 water heater!

Turn on and instantly have the green and yellow light. Cold water comes out the hot tap so I assume the heaters tank is full.

But it doesn't appear to do anything, left for an hour doesn't heat up, makes no noise but green and yellow light on. The red light has never lit up. Followed instruction book to no avail.

Gas appears to be fine as ok on fire and cooker.

Thanks so much for any help really appreciated!

-Dale


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16 September 2008, 10:33 PM
billander
Joined 12 Aug 2007
31 posts

hi Dale, sounds like you have a very low battery. If you wait on gary getting back to you you will be getting it from the expert. Sorry i cant be more helpfull.
Bill

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16 September 2008, 11:23 PM
gary
Joined 13 Mar 2002
2288 posts

Peter so sorry for missing you out the answer though is simple, yes it can be repaired.
If you contact me direct we can go through the details


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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
16 September 2008, 11:43 PM
gary
Joined 13 Mar 2002
2288 posts

Dale, Bill may have hit the nail on the head as a low battery voltage can cause alsorts of problems, thanks Bill.

After that it's probably a control switch problem, at least to start with. I can say though it's not as old as 78, that's the pattern date, probably 80, 81 or even 83 in certain makes of van


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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
17 September 2008, 3:47 PM
dale_hopkinson
Joined 15 Sep 2008
15 posts

Thanks for reply!

There is actually no batter connected at the min, (was dead only 6volts on full charge) the van is running off mains 240v.

So I'm assuming it needs to battery to run?

Van is 1983 Abi, I had assumed it was an older heater that had been fitted after, but I guess not!

-Dale


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17 September 2008, 4:14 PM
gary
Joined 13 Mar 2002
2288 posts

Dale the mk1 was made forom 79 till 84, the mk2 then took over in 85, I was going on the three light switch dating it to be early.

However you now bring ABI into it and I wonder if it is a mk1 or a carver 'B0' which ABI prefered in the early 80's

This switch, is it white or brown/black?


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17 September 2008, 4:43 PM
dale_hopkinson
Joined 15 Sep 2008
15 posts

Its a white control switch, with power button, 3 leds and a thurmo dial knob.

Pattern tag says 1978 mk1

-Dale


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17 September 2008, 6:42 PM
peter
Joined 17 Sep 2008
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Hi. I have a Carver Cascade water heater Mk 1. The heater was not working so I purchessed another on E BAY as a working unit. I bench tested the unit before installation with the switch/thermostate which had one green light that was supplied with the unit and everthing worked.
After I installed the unit I connected it to the existing switch unit which had three lights indicating run, fail and heat.(whit controlled in picture) This controll has Carver water heater mared on it. The unit did not work so I installed the one suplied it still did not work. I then stripped the unit and found that it was fireing up just for a couple of seconds and then shutting down. I then thought to do the same with the original heater that I removed. That also fired up bur shut down even quicker than the first one.
I suspect that the switch mared caver water heaterhas a fault and the other controll I have now brocken the switch.

Is there anyone ouit there that 1, has a switch and two can tell me what else might be wrong or can help me to make at least one out of the two work.





ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
17 September 2008, 9:57 PM
gary
Joined 13 Mar 2002
2288 posts

Dale, well you do have the mk1 cascade with the early mk1 switch of which there were two types, the earliest had red and green writing and the slightly later was silver,
Both are designed to not work at all below a certain voltage, this is generally 10.3v but won't work very well below 11v albeit it will try.

The ABI battery 'charging' system is not designed to work electronic equipment, frankly it will do little in the way of charging the battery either!!
Best then get a fresh battery first and see if the heater fires up then, even if it does not heat the water you should get the red fail light?


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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
17 September 2008, 10:29 PM
gary
Joined 13 Mar 2002
2288 posts

Ebay! sorry but simply buying 'another' is not the way to go about it, it's unlikely to be any better and then just serves to confuse the situation.

To be sure either switch is at fault you need to know the flame is burning correctly so it give the correct signal, and that signal is getting to the switch.
As your replacement 'seemed' to work before fitting, the answer must be in what changed between working on the bench and fitted in the van? This to me says wiring?

As for your broken control switches, (or infact the heater), I fix them, depends on which model brown switch you have, (mk2, 2a or 3), as to whether it's better to fix that or the white one?

Then again theres a control switch on ebay!!!




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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
21 September 2008, 5:26 PM
amberbeau
Joined 21 Sep 2008
33 posts

we have carver cascade 2 water heater gas only i have found it is leaking under the seat where it is placed i have been told these are now abosolete can anybody advise if this is true or not seen some on ebay also a firm who mends or sells spare parts or do i have to buy a full new system this only works off gas

ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
23 September 2008, 4:21 PM
amberbeau
Joined 21 Sep 2008
33 posts

THANK YOU GARY SO MUCH FOR THE HELP YOU GAVE OVER THE PHONE

ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
23 September 2008, 8:24 PM
nick
Joined 23 Sep 2008
2 posts

hello all just a quick question on the carver caravel gas fire controler
is it possible to adjust via the internal pot on the circuit board the cut in level.
I.E. heater cuts out at 24* c but cuts back in at 22*c
is it posible to adjust this to say cut out at 24*c and back in at 20*c
so that heater is not cutting in and out so often

thanks Nick


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