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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
30 November 2008, 10:25 PM
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gary
Joined 13 Mar 2002
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Yes Rob it is possible so it's the last bit of what you say that I don't understand?
You can have a gas only but not an electric only! so the electric one you have must surely also be gas, ie, a GE?
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
2 December 2008, 0:20 AM
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Rob724
Joined 19 Aug 2006
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Hi gary,The 'electric only' heater is not installed at the moment and I suspect is was a GE but a previous owner has removed the gas parts (or not bothered to fix them) as they only needed electric. I already have a gas heater installed but not working at present (green and red light on, so forum seems to suggest heater module, but I need to do a bit more cleaning/investigation and have sent you an e-mail for replacement/repair costs). So i would like to add the electric capability to the gas one already fitted. What do I need to do to add the electric function?; I am guessing I need to fit the cylinder from the electric one (with the immersion fitted) in place of my current cylinder. Do I need replacement seals, and if so which ones? Cheers.
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
2 December 2008, 10:39 PM
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gary
Joined 13 Mar 2002
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It depends on condition but I would not swap the cylinder, just remove the old heater and replace it with the GE model. Anything you need on the old heater will then fit the GEThe problem is overall condition, plastic parts are the weakest and are best replaced while the heaters out the van.
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
3 December 2008, 8:39 PM
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sam greenall
Joined 15 Oct 2008
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Carver p4 working the other day. Started van whilst heater running which cut power and heater stopped. Since then only runs a short start up sort of time and cuts out with 2 red flashes continuosly on the control. Any suggestions to the problem?
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
4 December 2008, 12:47 PM
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gary
Joined 13 Mar 2002
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Two flashes means blocked exhaust or combustion fan fault, this then can only be a coincidence.
I was rather hoping it meant overtemp stats tripped out which would make sense but that three flashes
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
4 December 2008, 10:41 PM
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Dave
Joined 4 Dec 2008
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Hi Gary,
What is the best paint to cover the internal surfaces of the carver 2 water heater?Regards Dave
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
4 December 2008, 11:30 PM
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gary
Joined 13 Mar 2002
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Legally probably none Dave!! I believe even the original finish and certainly Truma's later blue finish are now banned under new potable water regulations.
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
5 December 2008, 3:11 PM
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Dave
Joined 4 Dec 2008
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Gary let me ask the question another way, what have you or would you use knowing the water is not going to be drank from the tank.Dave
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
5 December 2008, 4:03 PM
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gary
Joined 13 Mar 2002
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If only it was that simple but with modern mixer taps 'knowing' is impossible.
In truth I've been trying to find out, Truma have tanks but nobody will coat them, they where using powder coat but that's now outlawed.What I've done to protect a small repair, perhaps the start of a hole due to corrosion, is to coat it in two pack epoxy glue. Should then anything be nasty in the glue, I reason the dilution would be so great it could not possibly do harm.
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
5 December 2008, 9:08 PM
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sam greenall
Joined 15 Oct 2008
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Thanks for prompt response. Stuck a hoover on exhaust and intake and all seems to be working ok at the moment. Cheers again Sam
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
7 December 2008, 1:28 PM
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Duncan
Joined 7 Mar 2008
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HI GARY FURTHER TO OUR TELEPHONE CONVERSATION REGARDING MY CARAVELLE SBE 1800 MK4 I FITTED THE CONTROL UNIT BACK THAT YOU REPAIRED BUT FIRE STILL GOES OUT AFTER IGNITING FOR A FEW SECONDS AS BEFORE THE CARAVAN REPAIR MAN DID AS YOU SUGGESTED IN PREVIOUS THREADS (PAGE 88) BUT TO NO AVAIL ANY MORE SUGGESTIONS. THANKS DUNCAN PRESTON LANCS
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
7 December 2008, 9:41 PM
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gary
Joined 13 Mar 2002
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Duncan, when the switch came to me the fault I found was it would not open the gas valve? this would give a similar problem to, but I didn't find anything wrong with the flame recognition circuit.Give me a ring tomorrow
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
14 December 2008, 12:28 PM
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firegard
Joined 24 Mar 2008
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hi gary thank you for sending my switch back so prompt unfortunately this has not solved the problem all i am getting is a high pitched tone comeing from the larg black box on the module curcuit then 5 secs it shuts of to the red light there is no spark is that normal when the module is free from gas
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
14 December 2008, 3:57 PM
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gary
Joined 13 Mar 2002
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Firegard, check your battery voltage, mosty likely flat but chargers can over charge and also cause buzzing.
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
15 December 2008, 7:32 PM
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firegard
Joined 24 Mar 2008
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the battery is good and quite new the charge is ok is there a safety divice i mean will the ignighter only work when it is back in place and the gas re conected the noise is not so much a buzz just a high pitched tone but not loud
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
15 December 2008, 10:49 PM
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gary
Joined 13 Mar 2002
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Aha now I understand, that's the sound of the step up transformer humming because the electronics are failing to fire the spark.
It should be a very quiet hum so theres nothing wrong with your hearing! but the solution is a replacement burner module
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
16 December 2008, 5:03 PM
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firegard
Joined 24 Mar 2008
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ok is that something you can sort out and do you part x old ones ps did u find a problem with the switch
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
16 December 2008, 8:41 PM
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gary
Joined 13 Mar 2002
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Yes I do serviced exchange modules, can you contact me direct about those, and yes I did find the common and expected fault with your switch.
Generally speaking, when I don't find a fault I always sent parts back stating 'no fault found' together with the cheques
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
17 December 2008, 5:54 PM
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firegard
Joined 24 Mar 2008
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thank you for all your help gary will give you a ring in the new year could you give me a rough estimate on a exchange please have a good christmas
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
21 December 2008, 0:24 AM
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Rob724
Joined 19 Aug 2006
14 posts
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Gary,I am refurbing my cascade 2 GE, which includes putting in new water inlet and outlets. Can you advise what is the best way to seal these when I fit them to prevent them leaking (or is the o-ring seal that they come with sufficient). Thanks.
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