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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
7 January 2009, 10:36 AM
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brasstoff
Joined 6 Jan 2009
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Hi gary tried all your suggestions on my initial try no sound or smell of gas last used it a couple of years ago just to try it.I am prity handy working all my life on cars/aircraft do the jets/burners block
cheers
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
8 January 2009, 1:54 PM
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gary
Joined 13 Mar 2002
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No jets rarely if ever block, as it happens though another guys just rang with the exact same problem.
Talking to him, I wonder if that slot I mentioned, (where it lights), is blocked at the bottom, this would hold the pin back enough to prevent the gas safety valve opening when you are pressing down on the control knobThis is very common on 1800 series fires and not so on the 3600, but it is a possibility
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
8 January 2009, 2:07 PM
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brasstoff
Joined 6 Jan 2009
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Thanks gary been fitting a new carpet may be a bit of thread may have got underneath will takeanother look cheers
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
10 January 2009, 7:45 PM
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Gillian
Joined 10 Jan 2009
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Hi I am new to this Carver thread and can't quite find a similar question so here goes. We recently purchased a Swift Classic Danette 1999 with a carver fanmaster fitted (Not sure of type). It has a slider switch which when used on electric does not appear to light up after the third light and could be said to be slightly warm but not hot. Secondly when on gas the ignition button seems very loose and appears to rotate more than it should but the gas lights it produces heat and the fan works. Any ideas as to what is wrong. Regards Gillian
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
10 January 2009, 11:13 PM
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gary
Joined 13 Mar 2002
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Hi Gill, you have the short lived but excellent mk2 Fanmaster, I wonder though which gas fire is in front of it?
There are two type, one called either 4000 or 5500 'turbo', (their actually identical), is roof flued, the other one called the 2000 is floor flued, check if you have a flue pipe sticking out the roof or not?Regardless, the slide switch is the same and this will need to come to me for repair.
The type of gas fire though may well determine what might be wrong with the control rod, apart from that, is it automatic ignition or manual? manual you have to press down to get a spark, auto it starts sparking as soon as you turn the knob? The 4000 & 5500 are 1.8kw on electric and 3.2kw on gas, you can use the two together you get something like 5.5kw hence 5500, the 4000 was left over from before they found out they would work together!
The 2000 is still 1.85kw on electric but only 1.6kw on gas so 2000? no, don't ask me?!
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
11 January 2009, 1:09 PM
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Gillian
Joined 10 Jan 2009
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Hi GaryThanks for the quick reply. Which part of the slide switch are we talking about is it the PCB board? As regards the gas side it is a manual you have to turn it anticlockwise 180 and push it down I am not sure about the flue. Back at the caravan this afternnoon (home through the week as we work away from home need the thing working) will take some photos and contact you via phone next week) Regards Gillian
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
12 January 2009, 7:58 PM
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aitcher
Joined 12 Jan 2009
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Hi Gary. My blown air heating packed up towards the end of last season and I thought it was U/S. Having looked at the fanmaster PDF file, there should be a thermistor in the fan which could have tripped out. I had a quick check tonight and I cannot see any resets on the casing. Is it inside the cover ? Thanks in anticipation . PS fanmaster MK1 is the model.
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
13 January 2009, 0:37 AM
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gary
Joined 13 Mar 2002
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The reset if it has one is down on the left hand side, early 1995 ones though were fitted with a 'thermal fuse' which would need replacing with a reset kit and I have thoseyou can see where to press here http://www.arcsystems.biz/Pictures/Fanmasterreset2.jpg
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
13 January 2009, 8:28 AM
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aitcher
Joined 12 Jan 2009
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Gary. Strange reset ! thanks for the info will check tonight.
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
13 January 2009, 9:23 AM
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pkt
Joined 29 Jun 2008
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hi
i have an elldis mistral gtx approx 1989 model. it has a carver traumatic (slp 3002)gas fire in it. the fire worked perfectly ok until the gas ran out one day and we didnt realise it as the guage on the gas bottle got stuck. when we tried to relight the fire the ignition would not click and we could not relight the fire. any ideas what it is and if it can be repaired.
thanks maria
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
13 January 2009, 10:31 AM
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gary
Joined 13 Mar 2002
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Hi Marie, it's least likely anything is wrong with the fire itself, first, purge the air out of the system by lighting the hob burners and then see if the fire lights. What can happen though, you buy a fresh bottle and turn it on immediately after connecting it, that's all well and good unless theres 'oil' contamination in the gas bottle.
The problem then is this 'oil' can be pushed out the bottle, through the regulator and into the pipe work. It can then lie there not bothering anything, or it can 'pool' in a low spot and prevent the appliance beyond it from getting any gas.
Also, this could have happened many times, a bit here and a bit there and not caused problems, it maybe this time was the final bit that blocked the pipe? Not your problem Marie but it's the same cause, after 2003 the caravans regulator was moved from the bottle onto the bulkhead, many of these different designed regulators won't let the 'oil' pass through, this blocks the regulator and it won't then let any gas through. So could be nothing or it could need fixing, if you let me know what area you live in I'll see if I can recommend a local service guy than can help you
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
13 January 2009, 10:38 AM
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gary
Joined 13 Mar 2002
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Quote: Strange reset ! thanks for the info will check tonightI know what you mean and that picture was a long time coming, I've probably tried to explain where it is a million times but thankfully now a picture paints a thousand words?!
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
13 January 2009, 11:04 AM
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pkt
Joined 29 Jun 2008
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thanks for your reply gary. weve had the oven and hobs on since this happened and they are all ok. when we press the black ignition switch down on top of the fire it dont click at all like it used to before this happened.
we live in the cambridgeshire area.
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
13 January 2009, 1:12 PM
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gary
Joined 13 Mar 2002
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Well if your not getting a spark then have you checked the two AA batteries in the auto igniter?
The older battery box which holds two batteries can also be the problem, the clip that holds it weakens over the years and the batteries no longer make a good connection. Try wedging something between box and clip to force the box slightly further to the left.
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
13 January 2009, 1:44 PM
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pkt
Joined 29 Jun 2008
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sorry for being a pain but where would i find these batteries on the auto igniter. we didnt see any when we took the front off the fire.maria
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
13 January 2009, 1:51 PM
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bats
Joined 29 Oct 2008
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Hi Gary .. I posted some time ago about my Carver 1800 gas fire that wouldn't light properly and gave off a blue, or was it yellow flame?! Anyway, you told me not to use it which I obviously haven't.The engineer at my storage facility has said it is either the burner or the ignitor that is faulty/missing. He's on leave until end of February (nice work if you get it) and he says he will look at it again then. Do you have either of these parts in case the haven't got them please? Thanks and really sorry for my random message which probably makes no sense at all. Joa
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
13 January 2009, 4:49 PM
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gary
Joined 13 Mar 2002
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Bats, I'm away for a month from the 12th of Feb! and it is nice work but I still deserve a rest after 13 months solid!!
I should though have anthing you might need.
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
13 January 2009, 4:54 PM
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bats
Joined 29 Oct 2008
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Ooh, a whole month off, lovely.
You deserve a month off Gary .. this forum is excellent!!
Have a lovely holiday and thanks for helping.
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
13 January 2009, 5:01 PM
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gary
Joined 13 Mar 2002
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Marie, download the SPL3002/3000 manual from my website (link below), page 8 shows the ignition block and points to the battery holder, a 4 battery model is shown, yours maybe identical or 2 or even one battery but basically thats where you find the batteries
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
13 January 2009, 7:27 PM
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pkt
Joined 29 Jun 2008
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thanks gary i will check tomorrow. thank you so much for your help . you are so kind.
maria
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