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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
5 March 2009, 8:58 AM
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nellymcl
Joined 4 Mar 2009
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Top man Gary. Thanks. I'll send you a wee email.
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
5 March 2009, 3:24 PM
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amberbeau
Joined 21 Sep 2008
33 posts
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hi gary and thank you so much for your help the caravan mechanic that does our van has checked the gauze and the pipes no creepy crawley webs he is amazed that you have new jets and has told me to order when you come back on the 16th and he will replace them and then i would have saved 400+ and i will have a new fire then he is only young and assumed that they were obsolete he now knows you have them and can replace them i have just paid over 300pd for new carver water heater GUTTED knowing that i could have came through you again thank you so much regards amber
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
5 March 2009, 9:47 PM
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Andy Bristol
Joined 19 Aug 2008
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Anyone got a spare gas solenoid for a carver cascade 2 mine is stuck closed, tried many things to free it but no joy..... on original investigation found lots of oil like substance in gas pipe so guess this is the old calor gas oil problem ? I assume this has jammed up the plunger and burnt out the coil maybe ? regards to all, and thanking you in advance... 07850986781
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
6 March 2009, 5:11 AM
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gary
Joined 13 Mar 2002
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I'll sort you out on my return, I don't see why he's amazed though as their readily available from Truma if not Miriad Products. Perhaps it's knowing what to ask for, ask for Carver spares and theres no chance, ask for the identical Truma part and you get a yes...how many do you want!!
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
6 March 2009, 5:22 AM
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gary
Joined 13 Mar 2002
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Sorry 'anyone' has never answered a question on here and I don't sell spare parts for 'burner modules' The reason being it was never intended by Carver for spares to be available, the successors, Truma, are the same, so to do so myself would make me personally libel which of course I'm not prepared to except. The correct solution is a serviced exchange module from me or indeed a new one. Make sure you clean all that oil out though.
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
6 March 2009, 2:15 PM
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amberbeau
Joined 21 Sep 2008
33 posts
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A PAIR OF JETS PLEASE THANK YOU
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
6 March 2009, 8:52 PM
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vanman
Joined 6 Mar 2009
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Hi Roy regarding the problem with your fridge if it is frezzing down on electric there is no problem with the heat exchanger if the gas lights the flame you see through the viewing window is the main flame ,if it is not frezzing down this usuly meanes there is not enough heat being given of it my need a new jet fitted so it burnes better.
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
8 March 2009, 8:01 PM
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Tobermorry
Joined 8 Mar 2009
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HiWe have a 1993 Swift Challenger that I believe has a Cascade 2 water heater in it. We took it away this weekend and appear to have two problems: 1) There is a slight leak/drip coming from what I think is the hot water outlet (nylon fitting?). What do I need/how easy is it to fix this? 2) We could not get any hot water at all. I can recall seeing one panel on the wardrobe wall that had a switch and a green light on it and also at floor level there is a switch with a red led lit when switched on. So my questions are: are the two switches related, why could we not get hot water and what is the easiest way to check it out to determine what is wrong with it. I did take the insulation off the unit at one point and it felt cold to the touch - is that usual? This is our first ever caravan and was bought with no manuals, so we are a bit in the dark (or should that be cold) with it! Thanks in advance for any help. Cheers Andy
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
9 March 2009, 12:31 PM
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gary
Joined 13 Mar 2002
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Time to get out the overview, this will explain most of your question Tobymurry. Replacing the outlet is straight forward, provided you do it correctly? get the part from me and it comes with a blow by blow help sheet in picturesOverview; The Carver Cascade 2 is a 9 litre storage water heater, which when running on gas will heat the water to 65deg c in about 45 minutes. On 240V mains assuming it has this facility, the time can be somewhat longer or shorter depending on the wattage (630w 3amp to 840w 5amp) of the element fitted, you can use both gas and electric together for faster times. To operate the gas there is a wall switch or a switch within a main control panel, either way both have three lights green, amber and red. When switched on the green lights, (water tank must be full, i.e. water coming from hot taps), if it stays on after about 8 seconds then the gas has lit and all is well. If the green is joined by the red then you may have a problem, but if the gas bottle has just been changed then air in the pipes will have to be bled through by repeating the above 2 or 3 times. Once lit, and it should light without any pops and bangs, (this would indicate it needs a service), the heater looks after itself and gives constant hot water. Any problems will cause it to shut down safely and show the red light. Forget the amber light, its to show low voltage and wont light unless the voltage is so low the heater and everything else packed up long since, though you may notice it flash as the switch is turned on or off. The 240v emersion heater if fitted is totally separate, and lies behind a white plastic box on the inboard end of the water tank. It is controlled by a switch, often close by and at floor level, but again sometimes as part of a remote control panel. The switch has a red light to show its on, not that its working, this will be determined by the water getting hot. If it does not then it may have tripped Two types exist, early circa 1990 are non-re-settable but are repairable. Later models have a Red button on the end of the plastic box which is sometimes behind a little flap. Switch off mains, and press to reset. Other faults concerning the gas side very often come down to the Burner Module. This handy little unit contains the burner, gas valve and all the electronics which control it and is accessible from behind the cover outside of the van. In the event things go wrong its a 5 minute job to replace it, with a new or serviced exchange unit. One other safety device is a wax filled fusible plug, this again is behind the outer cover and shows itself as a 13 mm nut set in the fins above the burner. The wax will melt if things get too hot allowing hot water from the tank to spray over the burner and put the flame out. This will render things safe but will require a new module because its control circuitry is faulty. However given if the fuse 'blows' without the water apparently getting to hot then replacing the plug will be sufficient. The point to note here is that over time the wax in the plug degrades or the threads leak, at the very least allowing water to seep onto the burner causing it to rust and eventually will still require replacement of the whole burner module. Further problems that come to light in spring is the discovery of frost damage to the water tank, the non-return valve which is part of the cold water inlet and other plastic fittings. Failing to drain the heater when there is a chance of temperatures dropping below freezing can be very expensive to repair and should be avoided by removing the drain bung and allowing the heater to drain completely. Later models have a valve above the drain hole in the top left corner of the flue cowl, these have a toggle showing that when turned a ¼ in any direction will allow air into the tank and assist the draining. Older models still have the valve but the flue cowl needs to be removed and the valve end pulled to open it, in this case opening all taps in the van will do much the same thing. It is most important that the drain bung is then only placed back into the hole and not screwed in, any water left in the system can then drain away. Frost damage to the tank will be obvious by the leaking water from the damaged seal, the damaged non-return valve quite often will prevent water coming from the hot taps although the cold water flow will be fine. Other fittings are often cracked by the pressure of the frozen water and will leak on refilling the system.
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
10 March 2009, 11:35 AM
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audiogag
Joined 10 Mar 2009
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hi there hows it going ive just joined the site today ive recently bought a small lorry with a part conversion done im going to complete this myself when i bought the lorry i got a cooker and a carver cascade mk2 water heater with a pump called the whale im looking for some sort of direction on setting this system up properly and as i have no manuals im going to struggle (badly) is it possible that you could email me a copy or can i download them from somewhere ive followed a link on another page but the link is broken// thanx for any help any all the best
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
10 March 2009, 7:39 PM
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tonytony
Joined 10 Mar 2009
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hi just seen your reply i have just got a replacement pump for my brothers van as the one you describe where it stays attached to the van only it came with what i think is a pressure switch and not sure where to put it or how to wire it its not got one on the original but the cold comes out ok but the hot is slow any help greatly
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
10 March 2009, 7:49 PM
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dale_hopkinson
Joined 15 Sep 2008
15 posts
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Hi again. Just got myself a new abi van with a mk2 fully working fine so my mk1 problems are over!What I would love though is a fanmaster. I am confused, is the fanmaster a new heater alltogether or an attatchment to the exisitng gas heater? Either way, how easy dimension wise would it be to fit / attach? (Of course I know of the ducting pipes I'd have to run, dont mind that). Thanks
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
10 March 2009, 8:06 PM
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spencer
Joined 10 Oct 2006
35 posts
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i have a fan and the duct/fittings for it i took it out of a 1991 challenger if your interested
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
10 March 2009, 10:01 PM
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dale_hopkinson
Joined 15 Sep 2008
15 posts
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Yea defo interested. Could you please give me a price etc (dunno if you can pm on here?). But regarding my original question, is this gas fire dependent or is it more or less a seperate unit? -Obviously need to ensure compatability!
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
10 March 2009, 10:33 PM
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spencer
Joined 10 Oct 2006
35 posts
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whats your email address?
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
10 March 2009, 11:01 PM
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dale_hopkinson
Joined 15 Sep 2008
15 posts
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its [Log in to view email]
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
11 March 2009, 10:40 PM
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Lee Colchester Essex
Joined 11 Mar 2009
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Hello There, I wonder if anyone can help i have a 1997 compass omega 490-4 caravan (tourer) i have a 'Carver' warm air heater thing its the 3600 STC or the 3600 STC AUTO, anyway its the heater, that runs off gas as well as 240 volts, and has a built in fan which runs on 12 volt D.C. very good heater (normally) have just recently noticed that the 230 volt electric heater does not opperate, first it was just opperating at half power now nothing atall just the fan comes on, is this simply a element problem or a thermostat problem ? and can it be easily repaired. Also when running on gas we seem to get a burning dust smell, is this normal or are we just not dusting the right bits? or what can we do to stop this. Many thanks for you help guys and girls, just stumbled across this chat page and read a few, people and gary seem to have very good advise to offer. I also have a de-lamination problem will try insurance company as it was flood damage, if not will try your advise on injecting apoxy (or equivelent) into floor.Take care everyone Happy Caravanning for 2009 Lee & Alex young caravaning couple 23/ 21 years old
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
13 March 2009, 11:38 PM
Edited by gary 13 March 2009, 11:41 PM
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gary
Joined 13 Mar 2002
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Starting with the alleged flood damage, if you mean flood water from outside then it would not have caused de-lamination, delam is caused by foot fall and therefore appears where foot fall is greatest. Secondly, if flood water damage somehow is responsible would mean the van is a write-off.The 3600 gas fire and the 'Fanmaster' electric heating on the back are two separate heaters. The problem of smell with the gas fire is down to dust between the fins at the top of the heat exchanger, it will be the dust on the back that you will have most difficulty removing. It's perhaps simpler then to remove what you can and then run the fire for several hours with the doors open until whats left is burnt off and the fire no longer smells. The Fanmaster won't have been running at half power as far as the elements are concerned, however it's quite possible for a worn fan motor to always run slowly. This would also explain the heater no longer heating, a slow fan will allow the heater to overheat internally and the thermal trip to cut off the electric to the elements. To reset you need to press a button which is behind a flap of plastic on the rear of the heater. From the front top left corner, it's 9" inches down and 7" inches back, simply press the flap to reset. Remember though it's likely to keep happening until the worn motor is replaced, also a worn motor will sooner rather than later overload the control board causing further expense
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
16 March 2009, 11:13 AM
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lisa
Joined 16 Mar 2009
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Help! I have a cascade water heater which is spewing out water - looks to be coming from the outflow drain? The bit you drain before storage. Been looking at new prices and am now crying! Can anyone help with a cheap alternative? Sorry to but in but just found this site and hope someone can put me in the right direction
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
16 March 2009, 12:11 PM
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wynthesurfer
Joined 8 May 2007
246 posts
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Calm down girl!!! I`m sure it`s not that serious and just needs a new drain plug. Gary I think is still away on holiday but is still answering questions so wait a little while and you will get all the help you need. Wyn. PS is the heater in a horsebox ? because if it is you will get an answer almost straight away !!!!!!!!
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