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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
16 March 2009, 1:19 PM
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gary
Joined 13 Mar 2002
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Thanks Wynthersurfer, truth is I'm back but walked into an inevitable backlog, not helped I might add by my dad buying a shed which is presently 'stored' in my workshop, so until 'I' erect it I have no workshop!!I will then be a bit snowed under for a few days so answer questions as and when I can Your right though, Cascade leaks are generally easy and cheap to repair, I'd expect this one to be the 'quick drain valve' , top left and above the drain bung, remove the plastic flue cover to get at it.
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
16 March 2009, 9:19 PM
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Mark
Joined 16 Mar 2009
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I have recently purchased a second hand caravan and have found that although the fanmaster 4000 operates fine on gas, it trips the rcd after about 10 min when operated on mains. I suspect an insulation problem with the electric element but am not sure if a replacement can be purchased separately or not. All the spares info can find relates to purchase of a new control unit or circuit board. Is the heater contained inside the control unit which fits on the back of the heater unit? Hope someone has come across this problem before and can help me outMany thanks
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
17 March 2009, 7:06 PM
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denis
Joined 17 Mar 2009
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Hi i have a carver turbo fanmaster 5500 and the control on the top of it has been damaged could you tell me were i could get a replacement (its in a 2000 eccles stirling the fire was fitted from new many thanks Denis
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
17 March 2009, 10:38 PM
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gary
Joined 13 Mar 2002
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Mark and Denis, as the 4000 and 5500 are actually identical I'll answer both questions together.
First the slide switch control, complete new ones are not available but I can almost always repair them and always considerably cheaper than new pcb boards as sold on ebay!Elements tripping after several minutes seems strange, I'd expect it to trip instantly?
However, first try running the gas fire on full for 24/48 hours, set slide switch to electric full heat with the mains switched off at the isolation switch, this will allow the fan to work on automatic and pull hot air across the elements.
Hopefully this will dry any moisture that might be causing it to trip, if not you can send the elements to me for repair. The good news is, I'm hoping I've found a source to manufacture new elements at reasonable cost, should the above fail.
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
18 March 2009, 0:37 AM
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dale_hopkinson
Joined 15 Sep 2008
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Hi I've got myself the trumar air but not sure about connecting it to the carver SB 1800 fire in a 1989 Abi Jubilee Diplomat. Book for trumer says there is a push out hole on back of fire, but without taking it apart i cannot find it on the back.Can someone confirm these two are indeed compatible? Thanks
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18 March 2009, 9:12 AM
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gary
Joined 13 Mar 2002
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The SB and SBT1800 is not designed to have a fan attached, this is due to the fire being semi free standing and not enclosed like all the others. This means the fan is able to pull air from too wide an area leaving the blown air at the outlets far from as warm as it otherwise would beThere was an adaptor available that could be used to attach a fan, I've not seen one in the flesh but it was a short length of tube and a flange. I presume the flange attached the tube to the heat shield at the back of the fire and the tube went close up to the fire, a length of ducting then attached to the tube and would allow a small Truma 'inline' fan to be used
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
18 March 2009, 10:32 AM
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IAN
Joined 11 Apr 2008
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Hi Mark, I had a similar problem with my Fanmaster. It worked fine on gas but on electric it would only run for 10 to 15 minutes before tripping and blowing cold air. I took the unit out from behind the fire and opened it up to find that the vanes of the heating element were full of fluff, particularly inthe area of the overheat trip sensor. I gave it a good clean and its worked fine since.I didn't find it to dificult to do. Took me about 2 hours. Theres an exploded drawing on the web which I found helpful. I can't remember where I got it . I just did a google search and found it easily. If you can't find it I still have it and can email it to you if you want.
Hope this helps Ian
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
18 March 2009, 12:32 PM
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Tobermorry
Joined 8 Mar 2009
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Hi GarySo how much is an outlet going to cost me (part, delivery & VAT)? How do I go about ordering? Thanks Andy
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
18 March 2009, 7:10 PM
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Mark
Joined 16 Mar 2009
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Many thanks for the advice Gary, I will try this out at the weekendBest regards Mark
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
18 March 2009, 7:11 PM
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Mark
Joined 16 Mar 2009
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Many thanks IanMark
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
19 March 2009, 4:59 PM
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Marvellous
Joined 16 Apr 2006
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HiRecently bought a Vanroyce 535 van 1997. It have the Carver cascade system. The system primes OK but when I switch to internal pump the water leaks (more like pours) out of the drain plug. Help appreciated. Also has a 3600 gas fire which will not light. Thanks
Mick
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
19 March 2009, 8:14 PM
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gary
Joined 13 Mar 2002
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Mark, sorry to say Ian's advice does not apply, he's talking about a mk1 and you have the totally different mk2 Fanmaster
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19 March 2009, 8:34 PM
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gary
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Andy, please contact direct via website or email link for prices
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19 March 2009, 11:39 PM
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mikejh
Joined 17 Mar 2009
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Hi Gary The problem is with my cascade m2 the end of last year it stoped working showing just the green light I had a look whilst at it on site, when the din plug was part puled out on the wall switch it worked but produced a loud pop each time well now no pop and no hot water just the green light
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
20 March 2009, 0:12 AM
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gary
Joined 13 Mar 2002
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If it's a 92 van then this could be a switch fault, but, you should always be able to get some life from the burner module by doing what you did with the Din plug.
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
21 March 2009, 8:38 PM
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tinkybob
Joined 19 Aug 2008
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hi, we are new to caravaning ,but we did drain our system before winter,we now want to use our caravan ,and have tried to flush the system,we have been trying all day but still no joy, the water is only dribbling out of the taps and we don`t know why? the pump is working, and the drain plug is closed.
can anybody help!
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
21 March 2009, 9:46 PM
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gary
Joined 13 Mar 2002
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The problem is the non-return valve is stuck, the valve is in the plastic cold water inlet fitting at the bottom right of the heater.
Solution depends on colour of the plastic, white and you first need to loosen the jubilee clip holding the hose on, now unscrew the nd of the fitting leaving the main body undisturbed in the heater.
Inside you will find a tiny white 'O' ring on a nylon plunger and a spring, check the 'O' ring is round and not kinked, if ok, clean and replace on the shoulder it seats on and reassemble. If kinked you can temporally discard all the innards but you will need to replace the whole fitting with a black plastic fitting.If already a black fitting, first find a long slim screwdriver and then get everything ready for pumping water and switch the pump off. Now remove the drain bung outside and get someone to switch the pump on while you wiggle the screwdriver around in the back of the drain bung hole, this is where this type of valve is and the screwdriver should free it and the pump pressure should then 'jet' water out?
Tip: stand to the side as it should come out a foot or more once the valves free.
If this works it might well carry on working but it may stick again, if it does, the whole fitting will need replacing. One other possibility is loose limescale has blocked the narrow passage from drain bung hole to tank, to clear this a hose pipe should be roughly connected to drain bung hole so to back flush the blockage back into the tank.
Tip: It is MOST important to have all hot taps open while you try this or air trapped in the tank will first prevent the hose pressure doing it's job and second....you again get soaked!!
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22 March 2009, 6:22 PM
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dale_hopkinson
Joined 15 Sep 2008
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Thanks Gary. So I'm right in thinking that the SB is what defines it as freestanding?If I bought a regular 1800 fire then would it be an easy swap? Or are the existing cut outs too big? Also where on earth would I find a new installation box with the push out hole? Would it be simpler just to cut one out? Thanks,
Dale
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22 March 2009, 9:13 PM
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gary
Joined 13 Mar 2002
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1800, 1800S, 1800SC, SBM1800, 2000 (old and new models) and the SBE1800 electronic control model, are floor flued, fully enclosed and fit in the same opening.
1800S 1800SC or 2000 new are the best choice, all the same fire but the SC and 2000 new are the late 90's Curved fronted models
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
24 March 2009, 1:05 PM
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jim1763
Joined 24 Mar 2009
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Hi i have a carver cascade water heater in my caravan it was working fine i put the caravan in to storage over the winter got it out just last weekend and now the water heater will not work it will not fire up it does not make a sound CAN ANYONE GIVE ME AN IDEA WHAT COULD BE WRONG .
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