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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
12 May 2009, 12:16 PM
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gary
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The painted end of the tie rod with the 'tit' on the end goes to the casting
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
12 May 2009, 1:14 PM
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steventhedemon
Joined 11 May 2009
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hi gary thnx for help found id plate on fire it is the fire you said there is no lower front panel or control panel there is a plug with six wires ,red,blue,yellow,green,white and black. also there is some wire loose two connected to a black joining box, the gas valve is there. is there any way of finding age of van gary thnx for all your help again .
steven
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
12 May 2009, 5:24 PM
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gary
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From what you say it is a Caravelle electronic controlled gas fire, six wires though takes it back to around 82-84 maybe 85, after that the black 'Din' lead changed to a flat white cable with telephone type jack plugs.Mark will give you a definite answer in 'do you know the age of your caravan' if you can supply a serial number or perhaps upload a picture if you can't find a number
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
12 May 2009, 8:34 PM
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steventhedemon
Joined 11 May 2009
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hi gary here is picture of heater plug
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
12 May 2009, 9:02 PM
 Edited by steventhedemon 12 May 2009, 9:08 PM
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steventhedemon
Joined 11 May 2009
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hi gary here is picture of the fire
id tag says carver caravell sbe1800
also serial no: i think c614611
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
13 May 2009, 12:42 PM
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gary
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Well that's dated it, the plug is the latter of two types of square one Carver used, so I would expect 1983 at the latest, by 84 they were using the round Din plug. However, the telephone type plug used on the mk4 after 85 was useless, so many over the years have been converted back to one of the type you have, no certainty as to the age of your van then
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
13 May 2009, 4:15 PM
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steventhedemon
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thnx gary for all your help is it worth repairing this fire and at what cost roughly.
ive left message for mark about age of van just waiting for replythnx again gary
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
13 May 2009, 7:02 PM
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Rainbow_whistler
Joined 4 May 2009
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Thanks Gary, we'll give it a go. Appreciate the advice.
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
13 May 2009, 8:02 PM
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gary
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Always worth repairing Steven, contact direct for prices.
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
14 May 2009, 5:36 PM
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steventhedemon
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thnx gary sorry about late phone call will stick to hours you said but thnx again for all your help steve:)
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
15 May 2009, 5:45 PM
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gypsy
Joined 15 May 2009
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Hi I have an abi supreme 470ct elegance with a trauma gas water heater both the water pipes have broken of the tank, i wish to dismantle & have these welded back on the stainless tank have you any diagrams or can you help in any way thanks Dave
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
15 May 2009, 8:05 PM
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gary
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Gypsy, I would think it will be obvious how the pipes fit as the shape of the break will position the pipe, as far as I know their brazed in or perhaps silver soldered. Stainless work hardens so a stainless weld is not the best choice, a brazed joint is far more forgiving.The cold in pipe fits to the tank in the middle but is angled down to the bottom, if the temperature sensor tube to the side of this is loose? then this is angled up, (later models don't have this second tube) Once the heaters on the bench and outer insulation removed, it will be again be obvious how to remove the inner water tank from the outer drum. First unscrew the clamp ring, you will then find the inner and outer are sealed together with a large silicone 'O' ring, this can make it seemed glued together but it's not, care though should be taken to loosen the join so as not to damage the seal. Ensure when reassembling this seal and the centre shaped seal are doing their job perfectly Only thing to my mind to cause this damage is vibration and quite likely from unbalanced wheels
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15 May 2009, 8:30 PM
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gypsy
Joined 15 May 2009
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i know were the pipes go, I think they have snapped off as it has been stood for 4yrs on sumbodys drive, its the wires or temp sensor hole they just seem to shove in an open hole is this correct?? will water not leak out of this hole do they need to be sealed in??? also their seems to be a drain off tap that is stuck open so water draining out all time would you know were I could obtain a new one, & were could i obtain instructions for the use of this heater thanks Gypsy
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
15 May 2009, 9:53 PM
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Adrian
Joined 10 May 2009
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I have a Carver Cascade 2 just replaced the fusible plug. I have lit the heather with no problems but when I switch off the electric switch nothing happens. The gas seems to be at full power at all times. Does anyone have any advice for me please? Thanks Adrian
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
15 May 2009, 10:22 PM
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gary
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Well I can only answer the question you ask and you said water pipes? you didn't mention the sensor hole!!Anyway yes the sensor holes open albeit the top of it's sealed, this seal though has been known to weep a little. the sensors wires are tie wrapped to stop the sensor coming out the hole. I don't know the model you have but Carvers 'B0' version as fitted to ABI's in 82/3/4 used enamelled tanks with stainless fittings, common for these to rot at the bottom of the tank. Truma's in later years used all stainless tanks.
Other than that the current Truma's are mechanically the same, the electrics have been updated but do exactly the same job and therefore work the same as way back then!
Operation is simple, switch it on, set the temperature and leave it alone, temperature control is fully automatic so looks after itself switching on and off as required.
Further information you can download from Truma's website I have a new drain/pressure relief valve to suit you heater
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
15 May 2009, 10:29 PM
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gary
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Adrian, theres a saying things happen in threes and I'm now believing it?your the third in a week!! with a problem that up to now I'm unfamiliar with?Whats happening is the gas valve is sticking open, these valves are not serviceable, only solution then is to change the whole burner module that contains the valve.
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
15 May 2009, 10:29 PM
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gypsy
Joined 15 May 2009
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how much an have u a link for trumas website please
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
15 May 2009, 10:35 PM
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Adrian
Joined 10 May 2009
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Thank youWhere is the gas valve located on the heater. Im thinking that if I give it a good shake then maybe on the off chance that it might work - Im being tight and hoping not to spend any money on it. Any idea where
I can get a new burner module for my carver. Thanks Adrian
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
16 May 2009, 12:52 PM
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gypsy
Joined 15 May 2009
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hi yes it is a stainless trauma & how much do you want for the drain / pressure release valve thanks Dave
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
16 May 2009, 11:52 PM
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gary
Joined 13 Mar 2002
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Dave, contact me direct for prices.Adrian, it's a gas valve, you need to be sure it shuts on it's own everytime, not worry you might need to clout it first!!!
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