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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
17 May 2009, 12:36 PM
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thepadster
Joined 15 May 2009
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Hi to all of you , i am new to this and have recently purchased a 1991 autoquest 320 petrol MH ,it has a carver casscade 2 gas powered water heater , when i fill the water heater and leave the pump running there is water squirting out of a white valve at the top left of the area underneath the cowling which comes back into the van if left running , the booklet aint that gret with the heater , i think its a pressure valve any one got anyideas , hopefully its something simple to fix
cheers to all
paul
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
17 May 2009, 12:43 PM
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thepadster
Joined 15 May 2009
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Sorry guys its me again , my van has a cascade 2 water heater ,how do i know if it can be used with electric as well as gas ,im crap with engines and stuff like this ,can build you anything as long as its made of wood or stone , but engines and so on i am lost , does anyone now a good place in bristol thats reasonable price wise where i can take the van for anything i need doing
cheers Paul
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
17 May 2009, 5:16 PM
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pauline
Joined 17 May 2009
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Yes I am experiencing this problem Would apreciate any answers to solve this problem.
many thanks new member
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
17 May 2009, 11:09 PM
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gary
Joined 13 Mar 2002
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The problem you both seem to have is very common, top left outside you have the 'quick drain valve' the problem is being plastic it cracks where it screws into the heat exchange and causes a leak.
Replacing is pretty straight forward, takes me about 5 minutes, however do it wrong and it can cost a lot of money to put right!The new part is a few pounds and when you get it from me, I provide a help sheet to show in pictures just how it's done safely Contact direct for details
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
18 May 2009, 3:58 PM
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delms2
Joined 3 Feb 2009
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Hi
I have just noticed water dripping from under my Carvar Cascade water heater.
It only drips when the pump is on.Is it difficult to remove the unit from outside the van to check where the leak is comming from. If not how do I do it please. Thanks for any advice.
David.
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
19 May 2009, 5:59 PM
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lexuscol
Joined 3 Sep 2006
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Hi Gary do you have an ignition unit for the Carver S1800 fitted to 1998 Swift Europa it has Fanmaster Mk1 behind it. Number on old unit is L808337.
If so can I buy one from you please.
Regards
ColP.S. managed to get the fridge working. (for now anyway) Thanks for your advice. Sorry for the double post. pilot error
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
19 May 2009, 7:34 PM
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gary
Joined 13 Mar 2002
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First there should be no need to remove the heater to find out where the leak is coming from, however, getting it out is easy, my record for a gas/electric is 7 minutes and driving away!!...
...well it was raining!!!Turn off gas, unscrew gas connections 17mm nut and release gas pipe, outside remove plastic flue cover and nine screws around edge of heater, count them, repeat count them!
Break seal using two broad screwdrivers and a thin piece of wood to protect paint work and give something to lever against
Once free allow to come out as far as the still connected water hoses will allow, if an electric model go inside and disconnect mains lead having first removed and safely stored the fuse from switch.
Lastly cut hoses just beyond the hot and cold inlet fittings, this gives a fresh pipe to connect later.
If semi rigid pipework then push connection fully on, now hold central collar which has moved back inside the outer main fitting in this release position, pull back and the whole fitting should slide off.
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19 May 2009, 7:40 PM
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gary
Joined 13 Mar 2002
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If you mean the piezo holder has broken then no I've got none left, if you actually want the piezo from inside then I have plenty of those.To repair the holder, preferably find broken part and glue back on with two pack clear epoxy glue from Wilko's or the like, use a slim lightweight jubilee clip to strengthen the joint and glue this on as well.
It's now stronger than new and should not break again
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19 May 2009, 9:46 PM
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lexuscol
Joined 3 Sep 2006
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Thanks for that Gary, you are very helpful.
Cheers
Col
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
20 May 2009, 9:43 PM
 Edited by Stan b 20 May 2009, 9:53 PM
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Stan b
Joined 4 Oct 2005
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Hi i have a carver fanmaster that runs on elec and gas the problem ive got is the fan motor wont switch off or slow down i press stop button and the light goes out but the fan keeps turning any ideas. cheers Stan
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
21 May 2009, 0:59 AM
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gary
Joined 13 Mar 2002
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Stan, the fanmaster control board has failed and the worn fan motor has caused it, both now need replacing.If you contact me direct I can explain what you can do about it
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
21 May 2009, 6:42 PM
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JC
Joined 13 Sep 2008
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Hi,Got a 1994 caravan with the cascade gas/electric water heater, type 2 i think, cold water flowing fine, gas heater lights fine, but no hot water flow, the heater is filling up but the pump is pulsing once every 4/5 seconds, any suggestions ?, i have replaced the non return valve.
Charlie
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
21 May 2009, 10:52 PM
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gary
Joined 13 Mar 2002
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Charlie, there are many many posts above on this subject, most likely reason is a blockage in the passage up into the heater.
Solution is often to back flush the blockage back into the tankDid you clean the threads in the casting before you fitted the new NRV?
If not and it was very tight to screw in, then this can crush the fitting also jam the new NVR!!
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21 May 2009, 11:15 PM
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JC
Joined 13 Sep 2008
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Ok cheers for the advice, one thing, re back flush where do you flush from ?, the hot water outlet pipe ?
Charlie
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
22 May 2009, 0:35 AM
Edited by gary 22 May 2009, 0:36 AM
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gary
Joined 13 Mar 2002
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No, the drain bung hole but open all hot taps to allow air to escape
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
22 May 2009, 7:50 AM
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JC
Joined 13 Sep 2008
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Cheers Gary .. you are some bloke with some patience answering all these queries, i guess there would be alot of people without hot water and heat if it wasn't for this forum .. brilliant.Will give the flush a go.
Charlie
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
23 May 2009, 10:31 PM
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darrell9721
Joined 25 Mar 2009
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This is original message for Gary
and your reply below. Many thanks for reply I actually got it working in the end well nearly. I been on hol with van so not been able to reply.
I stripped it down Replaced resistor with 4 as not had propper size one,
Resistor blew tracks on back and solder gone. Perfect now. You was right about spiders and dirt aswell. the small air tube was blocked.
Burner looks like new the flame safety device on other side of igniter i slipped closer to the flame. it now stays alight and turns off once to temp only used a handfull of times though.it will not relight it self once hot water has been drawn off it locks out.Also noticed on last use i was actually outside caravan the flue from it was bellowing out black smoke, the flame was yellow in colour. Any ideas please? I know it not burning right but do not know why
Thanks again Gary. >Hi i am hopeing someone can help please.
>I have a Carver Trumastore water heater
>Type Bo 10 Litres.
>When switched on Green and orange light it fires up and will not stay >alight the red led after a bit comes on.
>I have taken the outside cover off and vaced out the 2 holes on the >out side and it still does not want to stau lit.
>The switch is tempermental and looking in side the switch the resistor >next to the switch is black.
>>-----Previous Message-----
>>From: gary
>>Posted: Tuesday, 12 May 2009
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>>Darrell, the BO ran for a couple of years from 82 to 84 while Carver >>developed the mk2 Cascade, you have an early one. >>The resistor should be ok if it's solder connections are still sound. Your problem is most probably something to do with the burner, either a spider has climbed inside and left some web behind to disturb the gas flow, or perhaps the burners cracked or otherwise damaged
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
25 May 2009, 9:48 PM
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anth
Joined 25 May 2009
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ive just refitted my europa caravan with a water heater which worked fine but recently when filled with water i get a hissing noise and some water leakage coming from the finned area on the heater above the burner unit does any one know how i can fix this problem and what bits i will be needing
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
25 May 2009, 10:32 PM
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gary
Joined 13 Mar 2002
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Thanks Charlie, it's very nice when people say thank you, especially when they use my proper name?.......I hate being called anyone!!
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25 May 2009, 10:49 PM
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gary
Joined 13 Mar 2002
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Darrell,Answer is you have not cleaned the burner fully, did I not say 'don't use an air line'? if you have you've just blown the obstruction further in? sorry about that!
Answer now is to soak the burner in alloy wheel cleaner for 12 hours. As well as cleaning the inside, scrubbing the outside with a brass brush while still wet and rinsing well in water, will show any cracks in the burner, Inspect carefully around the top of the top face of the 'lolly-pop' this is where they normally are but only really open when the burner gets hot.
Infact and if I'm right, light it and listen very carefully for about 15 seconds, you should hear the flame roar get louder as the cracks open?
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