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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
25 May 2009, 10:57 PM
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gary
Joined 13 Mar 2002
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Anth, this is Gary, anyone don't answer questions on this thread?!If it's in the finned area then it will be the 'fusible plug' leaking, this shows itself as 13mm nut and can simply be unscrewed and replaced should it infact be leaking.
However if you have trouble getting one locally? get back to me Other than that, top left above the drain bung is the favourite place to leak.
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
26 May 2009, 10:44 AM
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wynthesurfer
Joined 8 May 2007
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Hi mate or anyone, I talk like this all the time, am rude dont say thanks.
What amazes me is do these people actually talk like this in the big proper world ? I think they do !!! thank god I`m not the campsite type.
Anyway Gary keep up the brilliant work (will bring you my horsebox soon for you to have a good look inside)Wyn.
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
26 May 2009, 3:06 PM
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anth
Joined 25 May 2009
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thanks gary for your help see if the local caravan place can help if not i will be in contact
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
26 May 2009, 9:24 PM
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simon
Joined 26 May 2009
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Hi
can anyone supply a new carver crystal housing as mine has developed a crack and is leaking
thanks
Simon
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
27 May 2009, 9:21 AM
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stu pot
Joined 16 Apr 2009
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is it the same as a carver 11 heater as i have one?
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
27 May 2009, 11:14 PM
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gary
Joined 13 Mar 2002
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Simon, I assume you are talking about the Carver Crystal mk2 water filter housing? this is the one that cracks at the bottom of where the filter screws in.You can still buy a new housing at a few dealers with old stock, but, the latest housing fits and gets rid of the cracking problem. Known as the Truma 'Aquaflow' it uses a cap to seal the filter in and a different way of attaching the pump.
Truma supply a complete kit to do the conversion and you can get one from me or most dealers. It's a straight swap taking around an hour to do and in the long run it's a better deal.
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
27 May 2009, 11:14 PM
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gary
Joined 13 Mar 2002
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Simon, I assume you are talking about the Carver Crystal mk2 water filter housing? this is the one that cracks at the bottom of where the filter screws in.You can still buy a new mk2 housing at a few dealers with old stock, but, the latest housing fits and gets rid of the cracking problem. Known as the Truma 'Aquaflow' it uses a cap to seal the filter in and a different way of attaching the pump.
Truma supply a complete kit to do the conversion and you can get one from me or most dealers. It's a straight swap taking around an hour to do and in the long run it's a better deal.
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
28 May 2009, 3:05 PM
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rich and sarah
Joined 18 May 2009
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i have a carvel cascade 2 water heater i have filled water tank ran the air out of the pipes by turning on the cold tap when i turned on the hot tap to fill boiler and get the air out nothing happened ???? after a few hours / days found out that the thing might be blocked . took it out of van to try and blow the blockage clear with the house water as the pressure is much better . It filled the tank when fitted to the hot outlet tube but when i put it on the cold water feed and turned the water on nothing ....... lime scale ? so how do i get rid of it ... ps its not the inlet valve .
come on gary give me some hints ........
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
28 May 2009, 7:27 PM
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gary
Joined 13 Mar 2002
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Theres only two possibles and you appear to discount one! and thats the cold inlet non-return valve?
Why do you say this is not at fault?The other is the narrow passage from the inlet/drain hole up to the tank, this is what gets blocked with bits of loose limescale during the last drain down. The bits then dry out and go solid, you need to work them loose.
What I find works is you need to roughly connect a hose pipe to the drain bung hole and force the blockage back into the tank.
Or perhaps as the heater is out, stand it on end and use a pint of white vinegar to dissolve it.
I would certainly try these first as stripping the tank off and removing the blockage this way proved more difficult the one and only time I tried it?!
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
28 May 2009, 7:43 PM
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rich and sarah
Joined 18 May 2009
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the inlet non return valve ...................when i fitted the hose to the feed in i undid the drain bung and water pumped out when the pump was turned off the water stopped so that tells me that the non return valve works ..........? i have now filled the tank with radiator cleaner and lime scale remover through the hot water inlet and turned it on its head so the water is saturating the inlet and outlet feeds ........gary am i right by saying there are two feeds one cold and one hot the water goes into the chamber and is then heated by gas or 240 v so once i undo the blockage in the water in inlet the water should fill tank and come out of the water outlet .......... or i am just thick .........
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
28 May 2009, 11:01 PM
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gary
Joined 13 Mar 2002
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I would get that concoction out pronto, I've no idea what damage it will do if allowed to soak???
Radiator cleaner is probably an acid!!Your right about how it works, the cold coming in at the bottom pushes hot out the top, it's as simple as that.
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
30 May 2009, 0:06 AM
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rich and sarah
Joined 18 May 2009
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got a roblem turned on the water from inside house and think i have blown the tank water peeing out were the tank meets the burner think the gasgit has given way .............
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
30 May 2009, 10:49 AM
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trotty
Joined 30 May 2009
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can anybody help a have got water coming out of the fusible plug what do I need to do please.
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
31 May 2009, 0:02 AM
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Rob724
Joined 19 Aug 2006
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I have got a Casacde 2 GE and it does not seem to be heating up when using the electric element (left it on for 40 minutes and tank still feels cold). There is a 240v supply all the way up to the connectors on the end of the tank. Is there a check I can do (resistance check or something) to confirm if the element is broken? The overload trip (red button on the end of the tank) has not popped out.Thanks
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
31 May 2009, 0:11 AM
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Rob724
Joined 19 Aug 2006
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Can a Cascade Rapide wall switch (the one with on and off buttons and three small LEDs) be used as a replacement for a Cascade 2 wall switch (the one with the slide on/off switch and three larger LEDs)?Are all the connections the same? Thanks
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
31 May 2009, 2:26 PM
 Edited by Glynn1952 31 May 2009, 2:37 PM
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Glynn1952
Joined 31 May 2009
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Hi. I stumbled across this site while trying to solve a problem with my Carver Cascade 2 water heater. I'm not sure how old it is, but the caravan is 1990.
I initally had difficuly getting the heater to light, and took the cowling off to have a look. With the cowling still off, I tried again and it lit ok, although it made a loud noise when it did so, like a mini explosion! The problem I now have is that it will not turn off at the switch. It seems to just keep going until I turn the gas off. The water is heating up ok, but it is a bit worrying. Another problem is that the red light on the switch does not illuminate (and never has), although I don't think this is related.
To add to my woes, the caravan is in France - we use it as a base when doing renovation work on an old house. We are going out again in August and I would like to take the bits out to do the repairs. I was thinking of taking a new heater, but reading some of the posts I think it may well repair.
Gary, could you please help to diagnose this problem and advise on a solution? Many thanks in advance.
Glynn
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
1 June 2009, 9:57 AM
Edited by gary 1 June 2009, 9:58 AM
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gary
Joined 13 Mar 2002
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trotty, you need to replace the fusible plug, it's a 13mm nut. Any problems getting a new one locally then I have exchange refurbished ones in stock.
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
1 June 2009, 10:06 AM
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gary
Joined 13 Mar 2002
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Rob, yes you can test the element, across the element pins your looking for either 84-88 ohms for the old 630w element and around 64ohms on the 850w element.
The two thermostats need a no resistance reading across their connections.As for changing your switch over, why?, it can be done but it's a lot of phaffing about, the easy way is to fix your old switch and I can do that cheaply enough
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
1 June 2009, 10:09 AM
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gary
Joined 13 Mar 2002
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Glynn, long story but very simple answer! you need a replacement 'burner module'
These I supply serviced on and exchange basis or you can still buy new ones @ circa £125!!!
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
1 June 2009, 10:12 AM
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gary
Joined 13 Mar 2002
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Rich & Sarah, Difficult to say if it was your cocktail or it was already like that? but, it now seems the heater needs removing for repair
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