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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
10 August 2009, 9:55 PM
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malfunction
Joined 9 Aug 2009
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Your a star gary, thanks very much for advice, i'll have a look at the weekend and let you know how i get on.
Looking through this forum it seems your an hero, and quite rightly so.
Again many thanks
Mal
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
10 August 2009, 10:37 PM
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gary
Joined 13 Mar 2002
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Thanks you guys for your kind words, in doing so one of you made the 3000th post!! that must say something? mainly I think the need for an internal search facility?!
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
10 August 2009, 10:51 PM
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gary
Joined 13 Mar 2002
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Bob, I don't know what's up, it sounds like the fan control board but could just as well be connected to a combustion board fault.Best I think to send the whole thing and let me sort it out but if you want to send just the fan board and switch go ahead
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
10 August 2009, 11:53 PM
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Bob
Joined 25 Jun 2009
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Cheers, Gary, I think it would be just as well to send the whole thing, rather than go back and forward, then I will know that it is in good hands. I don't know how you juggle all these people online and telephone and work as well. You must have a split personality or something. Wish there were more like you around these days.
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
11 August 2009, 4:05 PM
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jev
Joined 11 Aug 2009
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Hi - My van has a Carver Cascade 2 and a Whale Diaphragm pressure operated pump. When I turn on any of the hot taps The water comes out nice and hot at really high pressure but in about 10 secs the pressure drops right off and it goes cold. If I turn off and leave a few minutes I get hot water again but the same thing happens. It feels like the heater has got plenty of hot water in it and the pump works fine on cold water without any changes in the pressure - although the pressure seems much less than when I first turn on the hot water. Be grateful for any thoughts on where to start with this one. I've removed the drain and vent plugs from the Carver just to make sure water is moving well through the tank.
jev
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
11 August 2009, 9:13 PM
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gary
Joined 13 Mar 2002
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Jev, this is classic sticking non-return valve, the NRV is located in the plastic cold water inlet fitting to the heater and best to simply replace it.
It could also be the passage up to the heater is partially blocked which will also reduce flow.
However, if you read back a few pages you will find some tests you can do and possibly a cure.
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
11 August 2009, 9:23 PM
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Dave
Joined 11 Aug 2009
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Hi Gary
Help! I commited the cardinal sin of allowing my Carver Cascade 2GE water heater to run dry on mains electric recently (in a year 2000 Abbey Spectrum 620); the red cutout button popped out at some stage. I let the unit cool down, switched it off at the wall switch, then filled it with cold water to try again, but the reset button won't reset, neither can I get it to run on gas. Have I wrecked the whole unit, or is their a fix? I'm not too bothered if it never runs on gas, but would like mains power back! I'm reasonably handy with a tool kit, so could undertake most repairs if parts are still available.
Thanks
Dave W
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
11 August 2009, 11:42 PM
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gary
Joined 13 Mar 2002
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Don't panic Mannering it's only a simple problem?! albeit gas and mains heating faults are totally unconnected.You need to be handy with a multimeter to find out what's up with electric, mains power off, you need to check the connections inside the white box on the back of the tank.
There are two thermostats that should have no resistance across their connections
Between the stats are the two element pins, for your age of van your looking for 64 ohms resistance between these. Being 2000 you will also have a double pole relay in the box, this is there to take the load off the stats and does fail and could be the problem if the above checks out ok. New stats I have and trying to source a suitable relay at the moment. The gas problem depends if your getting a red light or not? and being 2000, the exact date of the burner module fitted and or when it was last used? November 99 through March 2000 modules have a specific fault. Or no red light could simply be a blown 1A internal fuse due purely to lack of use?!
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
13 August 2009, 3:39 PM
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wonk
Joined 6 Jul 2009
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Just want to say a big thank you to Gary for some advice on how to get safety valve houseing out and replace. It worked like a dream I also used a plant hand sprayer to clean the debris out of the hole, and used a 22m socket on the tow ball bolt to clean up the threads and make life easier. Thanks John
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
13 August 2009, 4:40 PM
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Gary
Joined 28 Jul 2009
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Hi Gary, many thanks for your help and advice after 50 or so cycles the Carver gas valve now opens and closes every time and we have hot water. Please keep up the good work and be assured I will be signing your praises to all my caravanning buddies.
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
15 August 2009, 10:34 PM
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shaedaisy
Joined 9 Aug 2009
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gary can you tell me where i can get spares at a reasonable cost the wax/solder safety feature failed on my cascade 2,it still heats the water but the tank keeps emptying througth the two holes in the feature,the green and red light come on together and there is slight rust on the burner if not can you tell me where i can get it serviced and would it be cheaper than buying another second hand one ilive in chester ,shaedaisy
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
15 August 2009, 11:42 PM
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gary
Joined 13 Mar 2002
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shaedaisy, I answered the first part on the !0th, you can get a fusible plug from me, what I don't understand is, 'the green and red coming on together' and it still heating the water?The red should come on, if there's a fault, 10 seconds after the green and the burner, if lit, should go out.
If green and red come on together at the same time then the 10 second timer is faulty and basically nothing happens? I can do anything for you regarding the heater but this involves you removing it and sending it to me, or I can recommend Myles Povey a mobile and fairly local guy to you, 01244 534111
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
17 August 2009, 5:51 PM
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tuwey
Joined 3 Jul 2009
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message for Gary,thanks for the advice re the simple checks i had to do on my carver.Turns out you were right,(no suprise there to me after following this thread!) after squeezing the bottom of the fuse holder a second time on the control box I managed to get lights and after 25mins .......hot water! superb mate can't thank you enough, just back from the main hols and no probs, hot water and hot showers right through,regards Tuwey
p.s still can't believe it was that simple, having tried it once and having no joy.
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
22 August 2009, 11:32 PM
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almil
Joined 1 Sep 2008
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a &p caravans in carlisle helped me with the same problem,we got them at yell .com
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
23 August 2009, 2:32 PM
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Peter
Joined 27 Oct 2006
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Hi Gary,
Have just got back from trip.
Re your reply:"Peter, sorry to be slow replying but yes you can use it safely by switching it off, however this should not be required.
First 20psi should be fine, my pumps set at 25psi and I have no problems. I would think your quick drain valve is dirty inside or the toggle that opens and shuts it is damaged and not allowing it to fully shut, it will be something very simple " to reiterate----it is not leaking from the drain plug but from the valve above (only when water is heating up).
The pump is a shureflo 20psi.
Is this what you are talking about when you say "quick drain valve". Thanks Peter
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
25 August 2009, 1:09 PM
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Wildgnome
Joined 25 Aug 2009
3 posts
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Thanks for reading this, I have a problem with the Carver P4 blown Air Heater in my camper.It runs fine producing lots of hot air, but when I turn it off it goes into a cycle where it blowns for a sec and then stops for 2 to 3 secs.
It does this for ever, long after the heater has cooled down, the only way to stop it is to power it down.
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
27 August 2009, 12:59 PM
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lindale
Joined 24 Aug 2009
5 posts
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know anything about the swift danette water boiler called a jolly boiler help please.
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
30 August 2009, 9:18 PM
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monte
Joined 30 Aug 2009
2 posts
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please could you help me , every time I try to put heater on for the *!#%!@ the electricity blows I have a fiat sandymere 1989, this all started when I first went to use it after the winter (I did drain the water over the winter) it does work ok on the gas but takes a long time to heat. any help would be great
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
5 September 2009, 7:38 PM
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gaz
Joined 18 Oct 2008
3 posts
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hi i have just bought a 30 year old motorhome and im pleased to say it passed the mot 1st time,however i have just discovered it has a carver cascade water heater,not sure which type but it has a red reset button on the end aswell as the 240v wires,but my problem is when i switch the pumps on cold water flows ok but hot water tap is spluttery and water sprays out of the side of the van from behind the vent,i tool this off and it comes out of a white valve in the top left corner very fast has anybody come across this problem or does anyone know how to fix it.
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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
6 September 2009, 4:52 PM
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sl
Joined 14 Jun 2009
3 posts
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hi all, just getting over teething problems with my new [to me]talbot express 1996.the gas water heater works fine-the elctric seems very slow-after half an hour just about watm enough to tell it wasnt cold...if you see what I mean.is this normal ?
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